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Offline boing_net

Bernie Demos Pegasos/IMac UAE JIT for PPC
« on: June 15, 2003, 03:13:58 PM »
Today at AUG Bernie Meyer presented a demo of a modified UAE JIT for PPC on IMac/Pegasos.
Follow this link to see the pictures.

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Re: Bernie Demos Pegasos/IMac UAE JIT for PPC
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2003, 04:00:09 PM »
Boy oh boy, Bernie + Pegasos = some intereting developments :-)
Someone has to state the obvious and that someone is me!
 

Offline System

Re: Bernie Demos Pegasos/IMac UAE JIT for PPC
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2003, 04:05:22 PM »
Welcome back to the Amiga Bernie!

You've been missed! :-)

I will buy an Amithlon type product for PPC if you release it.
 

Offline wonea

Re: Bernie Demos Pegasos/IMac UAE JIT for PPC
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2003, 04:48:12 PM »
Will this be generally available for the mac?  Amiga emulation under Mac OS X is very slow.
 

Offline bbrv

Re: Bernie Demos Pegasos/IMac UAE JIT for PPC
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2003, 04:54:39 PM »
Just an idea!  :-o

Step with us through this...

1. We could have a fast UAE for MorphOs...not bad.

2. As UAE is GPL, all the work Bernie does could go to Hyperion.

3. Hyperion would then have a working JIT, as they would have the UAE sources. (Will Petunia be ready any time soon?  Really?)

4. Hyperion has Mac experience and could generate considerable interest and success by bringing OS4 and Amiga games to Apple computer owners (sort of a cool Retro package initially and then GamePack II, etc.)

5. Ben can stay busy solving all the EULA problems :-) and...

The Amiga Community has a market again!!!

OK, now can we have some cooperation please!

BTW, our JIT will be ready for the MorphOS 1.4 AmiWest release.

Cheers to Bernie!  :-D

Raquel and Bill  :-)

Offline olegil

Re: Bernie Demos Pegasos/IMac UAE JIT for PPC
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2003, 05:17:29 PM »
Like I just commented on ANN:

Since both OS4 and MOS has JIT compilers without custom chipset emulation on the feature list, what's the use of a non-chipset emulation JIT version of UAE?

Are you saying you can't get yours to work? ;-)
 

Offline bbrv

Re: Bernie Demos Pegasos/IMac UAE JIT for PPC
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2003, 05:32:29 PM »
olegil, actually it is an idea seriously considering.

Our JIT will be released at AmiWest.  It is working fine and getting better.

Best regards,
R&B  :-)

Offline KennyR

Re: Bernie Demos Pegasos/IMac UAE JIT for PPC
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2003, 05:32:29 PM »
To tell the truth, nobody has got decent 68k JIT to work except Amithlon and UAE. MOS has it, but it's still in beta and I can't comment on its completeness, since as bt2 I don't get to try it. OS4 will probably not have it to begin with either. Petunia was not what they hoped, it seemed.

Anyway, having Bernie on your "side" is far better wasting months of man hours on reinventing the wheel, no? :-) Do you think he would have got a free/cheap/loaned A1 from AInc? Somehow I don't think so. :-)
 

Offline Glaucus

Re: Bernie Demos Pegasos/IMac UAE JIT for PPC
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2003, 05:34:29 PM »
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Just an idea!

A better idea would be to contact all the players directly instead of leaving a comment on Amiga.org hoping they all happen to read it - or was this just another opportunity for you to point out that Petunia is not yet complete?

  - Mike
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Offline catohagen

Re: Bernie Demos Pegasos/IMac UAE JIT for PPC
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2003, 05:35:51 PM »
bill, did you  forgot the 'Hyperion' part infront of OS4 ?
 

Offline KennyR

Re: Bernie Demos Pegasos/IMac UAE JIT for PPC
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2003, 05:36:52 PM »
Personally I'm hoping for UAE's direct integration into MOS - including paula, CIA and AGA support. I guess that's dreamland stuff. At least, I guessed so before Bernie's name reappeared in the community again. :-)
 

Offline olegil

Re: Bernie Demos Pegasos/IMac UAE JIT for PPC
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2003, 05:44:02 PM »
So you have your own JIT, but need another? You didn't answer the ACTUAL question, just the cheek-in-tongue part ;-) (yes, I know it's really the other way around, but just imagine putting your cheek in your tongue, eh? Or better yet, cheek in thong :-) )
 

Offline zacman

Re: Bernie Demos Pegasos/IMac UAE JIT for PPC
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2003, 05:55:49 PM »
>So you have your own JIT, but need another?

Read again. The JIT is for UAE which is under GPL.
Trance will not be under GPL/open source.
 

Offline magnetic

Re: Bernie Demos Pegasos/IMac UAE JIT for PPC
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2003, 05:55:58 PM »
Great work Bernie!
 I am so excited he is involved with MOS community and again with Amiga emulation. JIT 68k for UAE on Mac is fantastic.. from the looks of it he's been working it out. I cant wait to run AmigaOS on this 500mhz IBook :) with Ibrowse and Miami dx it will be faster than OSx native on this thing!
  Of course BBRV is pointing out that their JIT isnt working and MOS one is... dont you think Ford motors points out that a feature they have works as advertised and the competitor's, like say GM doesnt.... Its called business... and if previous and present "Amiga" companies had good business sense we would all be running Amiga OS right now instead of PC crap.
  I'm tired of everyone blasting bbrv about speaking in public forums.. how the hell is anyone going to know the truth if its always hidden..
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Offline olegil

Re: Bernie Demos Pegasos/IMac UAE JIT for PPC
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2003, 06:03:41 PM »
And MOS needs two JIT emulators, one GPL and one not BECAUSE ...?

Could someone please try to answer the QUESTION, not nitpick about the details?

Does MOS need two JIT compilers if none of them provide custom chipset emulation? I wouldn't think so, but Bill Buck seems to think otherwise.