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Offline TheMagicM

Re: Public release of MorphOS 3.2
« Reply #75 on: June 06, 2013, 12:19:48 AM »
All I know is that I'm having a great time with this release.  Never did I think we'd be running on a G5.  :-)
PowerMac G5 dual 2.0ghz/128meg Radeon/500gb HD/2GB RAM, MorphOS 3.9 registered, user #1900
Powerbook G4 5,6 1.67ghz/2gb RAM, Radeon 9700/250gb hd, MorphOS 3.9 registered #3143
 

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Re: Public release of MorphOS 3.2
« Reply #76 on: June 06, 2013, 04:10:31 AM »
Is there going to be an update of the Ultimate.iso for MOS 3.2? Seems my existing iso is saying I do not have MOS installed.
 

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Re: Public release of MorphOS 3.2
« Reply #77 on: June 06, 2013, 09:27:55 AM »
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Is there going to be an update of the Ultimate.iso for MOS 3.2? Seems my existing iso is saying I do not have MOS installed.


Ultimate has been renamed to Chrysalis. There is 3.2 version of it: http://www.morphzone.org/modules/news/article_storyid_2050.html
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Re: Public release of MorphOS 3.2
« Reply #78 on: June 06, 2013, 01:42:30 PM »
}~ A1200 - Apollo 68040 - HOTLY running OS 3.1
}~ Powerbook G4 1.67 running MorphOS 3.2 without Wifi.
}~ Powermac Quicksilver 933 with Radeon 9600 XT (r300) LOUDLY running MorphOS 3.2
}~ [MY iOS GAME]: http://goo.gl/S9nWB (Amiga users can get it FREE[/color], just ask me)
 

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Re: Public release of MorphOS 3.2
« Reply #79 on: June 06, 2013, 01:51:57 PM »
Thanks!
 

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Re: Public release of MorphOS 3.2
« Reply #80 on: June 08, 2013, 02:08:34 AM »
Hmmm....for a while there things were good after applying the 3.2 update. Then I received that old error message regarding my network connection again today. Anyone know how to get rid of it?

The error message appears in a window:

"startup message
Need version 0 of bsdsocket.library"

I cannot use any network applications after this appears.
 

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Re: Public release of MorphOS 3.2
« Reply #81 on: February 12, 2016, 01:00:57 AM »
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If I were them, I would stop supporting new hardware immediately.
How many different Amiga models we had back then?
I would focus on making the OS run 100% perfect, supporting all hardware features of few great machines like: Mini G4 1.42 (A1200?), PowerMac G5 model XXX (A4000?) and PowerBook 1.67 (A1200m?): Wireless, Bluetooth and etc...

If you compare the most expensive Powerbook 1.67 17 Hires from eBay with the x1000, for example, that decision makes even more sense...

so, IMHO, adding support for new hardware is a waste of precious time from a small group.


Glad to see that, even 3 years later, they're probably following my advice:
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When such a time does come, expect us to support one desktop motherboard (with one family of CPUs and GPUs) and one laptop. We'll of course make sure it's hardware that's actually available one way or another.
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A wise decision! Software is SO MUCH better when you know exactly what to expect! Amiga is not PC! Just take ONE MOBO, ONE PROCESSOR, ONE GPU (popular ones, of course) and code directly to that specific hardware!! Leave all the layers and virtual machines to the mainstream OSes...
}~ A1200 - Apollo 68040 - HOTLY running OS 3.1
}~ Powerbook G4 1.67 running MorphOS 3.2 without Wifi.
}~ Powermac Quicksilver 933 with Radeon 9600 XT (r300) LOUDLY running MorphOS 3.2
}~ [MY iOS GAME]: http://goo.gl/S9nWB (Amiga users can get it FREE[/color], just ask me)
 

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Re: Public release of MorphOS 3.2
« Reply #82 on: February 12, 2016, 06:46:23 AM »
And on the third year it rose again.
 

Offline hbarcellos

Re: Public release of MorphOS 3.2
« Reply #83 on: February 12, 2016, 02:04:26 PM »
found my original post @ MorphZone:

"The lack of a clear roadmap shouldn't be a surprise for me. It's a hobbyist project and it's clearly managed in that way. The only thing that's unusual is to charge prices over 100 euros for a hobbyist product...

Trying to think about strategy here, most probably the money does not make a huge difference. I can't imagine more than a couple copies being sold per month (average) and I can suppose they're not splitting that fortune equally among developers. How much are they? So, if money is really not the key point here, why the heck are MorphOS team always trying to support new/different/sometimes exotic hardware?

IMHO, trying to keep the spirit of the amiga, would be to choose a fixed system (remember, when developers know exactly what to expect, there's nothing preventing them to go, as low level as they want..., just like an Amiga)

i.e. Mac Mini 1.5 with Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, at least 1gb of ram, etc... Set the exact detailed model
That machine would be considered AMorph 500 or anything like that.

They should invest all human resources and efforts to make the system run perfectly on that machine. With everything supported. Why add an eMAC for example? Who wants those white elephants?

When MOS is running flawlessly, perfectly on AMorph 500. They might start to consider an AMorph 1200 (maybe the Powerbook 1.67 High-Res)...

Let people with old 1.25 minis or Powerbook 1.5 complain. It will be better to get another machine, than to have an incomplete operating system.
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}~ A1200 - Apollo 68040 - HOTLY running OS 3.1
}~ Powerbook G4 1.67 running MorphOS 3.2 without Wifi.
}~ Powermac Quicksilver 933 with Radeon 9600 XT (r300) LOUDLY running MorphOS 3.2
}~ [MY iOS GAME]: http://goo.gl/S9nWB (Amiga users can get it FREE[/color], just ask me)
 

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Re: Public release of MorphOS 3.2
« Reply #84 on: February 12, 2016, 03:44:14 PM »
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I can't imagine more than a couple copies being sold per month (average)


It's 91 months since MorphOS went commercial and about 3143 registered machines since then.

It makes 34 licenses per month, more than one per day.

And this graph shows that the more there has been supported machines the faster licences have been sold.
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Re: Public release of MorphOS 3.2
« Reply #85 on: February 12, 2016, 04:22:55 PM »
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It's 91 months since MorphOS went commercial and about 3143 registered machines since then.

It makes 34 licenses per month, more than one per day.

And this graph shows that the more there has been supported machines the faster licences have been sold.


I can almost bet it's not barely close to a linear distribution. Not to mention that the market is extremely limited and probably NOTHING would make them double that figure.

Yet, ~40.000 €/yr of gross revenue does not sound like a lot for a "team" + expenses.

So, I highly doubt money is their primary concern. Or, if it is, if that would be the right strategy...
}~ A1200 - Apollo 68040 - HOTLY running OS 3.1
}~ Powerbook G4 1.67 running MorphOS 3.2 without Wifi.
}~ Powermac Quicksilver 933 with Radeon 9600 XT (r300) LOUDLY running MorphOS 3.2
}~ [MY iOS GAME]: http://goo.gl/S9nWB (Amiga users can get it FREE[/color], just ask me)
 

Offline zylesea

Re: Public release of MorphOS 3.2
« Reply #86 on: February 12, 2016, 11:54:05 PM »
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When MOS is running flawlessly, perfectly on AMorph 500. They might start to consider an AMorph 1200 (maybe the Powerbook 1.67 High-Res)...

Let people with old 1.25 minis or Powerbook 1.5 complain. It will be better to get another machine, than to have an incomplete operating system.
"


The Mac mini 1.5Ghz (and the 1.42, 1.33 and 1.25GHz versions) is brilliantly supported and everything works. Except Bluetooth - and that is due to license issues (really prohibitive cost). There's really not much more to expect from hardware support side for these models (FW stack is 3rd party though).

But I agree that not too much work should be spend to support every exotic model that probably brings close to no new users. Focus should be to do the necessary ISA switch ASAP.

Btw.: Registration fee got reduced for many systems. For most systems it's 79 EUR. IMHO a rather a fair ammount.