Haynie's Garage Sale

[Daedalus]

@mailman2

Where's all this hate and bitterness coming from? And why directed at Dave? Have you ever worked in a commercial R&D environment before? Do you know the constraints and pressure those guys were probably under? They had far less money and time than they needed, which ultimately means cutting corners, such as keeping Paula etc.

[bloodline]

@mailman2

Dave worked on the 8bits mostly, he had very little to do with the Amiga "big custom chips", read his posts!

You are clearly trolling as much of what you say is factually wrong.

[mailman2]

Mailman2,

Do you honestly think that the engineers at Commodore were in controll of their budgets and for authorising development and production? No point in attacking Dave, you twat.

Fuck off, you whore.

[Zac67]

Moderators, please ban that troll. Thank you.

[Zac67]

Well, there the Nyx goes for just over $2500 - really thought it'd fetch more...

[crawff]

@mailman2

Your a twat, now piss off.

[minator]

You could add 16-bit (65536 colors) chunky mode to AGA, when you worked on AGA.

Since this was not done, the AGA chips were crap compared to what was in 1992 in PC, Mac, Atari.

Because the Aga chips were crap, the external graphics card based on pc chips were in Amiga absolutely necessary.

Read his posts.  AAA was started before AGA.  It would have fixed everything if it'd been brought out in a reasonable time frame.


Also while AGA might have been relatively weak compared to top end PCs of the time, even low end PCs were a *lot* more expensive than the A1200.

[Amiga_Nut]

That's the one I would love to see.

Simply amazing the tech jump from projects of C='s final days to what is now available for low end computing.  One can only ponder what we would have now had C= survive and competed against that upstart company, nVidia.

The C64 and A1000 were cutting edge NOT low end. ie C64 had 15 char filenames....MS-DOS had 11...crap like that.

They just cost less than that x86 and Apple stuff.

[Amiga_Nut]

Read his posts.  AAA was started before AGA.  It would have fixed everything if it'd been brought out in a reasonable time frame.


Also while AGA might have been relatively weak compared to top end PCs of the time, even low end PCs were a *lot* more expensive than the A1200.

Well I had a £1200 machine and it was also the cheapest 486SX25 built in a backstreet garage type thing for the time (Autumn 92) and trust me it was shit, it could only do 1024x768 in 256 colours. Compare that with AGA 1280x512 +(overscan) in either 256 colours, 256 colours per odd scanline or HAM8.

[bloodline]

I'm always down on the AGA chipset due to the fact that it was nothing more than an ECS bug fix... But in '92, for the price nothing came close to the A1200... But with the £100 more Falcon available at the same time, it was clear something needed to change

[Amiga_Nut]

I don't have a problem with AGA as such, more with ECS which on the A500+ was a completely useless chipset update for the A500. wow 1280x256x4 colours at 4x slower speed, what a fantastic update for gamers!

AGA was necessary given VGA being everywhere on PC games of all types not just American snooty £40 games, but we already had Fatter Agnus 1mb chip ram and that was all the OCS ever needed time wasted on.

Jay Miner's Ranger chipset was finished and should have gone in the A3000 regardless of cost.

[RMK305]

The Ranger chipset? Do you have any more details?

[Digiman]

He posted a thread with attachments on here....

VRAM based chipset would have given top end machines a lot of respect, for A500+ too expensive unless it was cut to 256kb chipset VRAM/512kb slow DRAM true, but this [restricted memory] is nothing new in the world of consoles.

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=52879

[RMK305]

Thanks for the link.

[psxphill]

Jay Miner's Ranger chipset was finished and should have gone in the A3000 regardless of cost.

Ranger doesn't sound that good, the specs paint it like a tweaked OCS using VRAM so it was expensive. It's about as interesting as an a2024 monitor.

[runequester]

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i don't have a problem with aga as such, more with ecs which on the a500+ was a completely useless chipset update for the a500. Wow 1280x256x4 colours at 4x slower speed, what a fantastic update for gamers!

Aga was necessary given vga being everywhere on pc games of all types not just american snooty £40 games, but we already had fatter agnus 1mb chip ram and that was all the ocs ever needed time wasted on.

Jay miner's ranger chipset was finished and should have gone in the a3000 regardless of cost.

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