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Offline mechyTopic starter

Apower desktop PSU for A500/600/1200/cd32 are Back!
« on: April 08, 2011, 01:42:38 AM »
Hi all,
  I have been toiling away and searching the world for connectors and have managed to finish building and testing 51 new heavy duty power supplies for the A500/600/1200 and cd32! I have them listed with different color labels(they are all the same psu,just a choice of label colors). I have managed to setup a shopping cart to automate this.

PLEASE make sure your PAYPAL account is verified/confirmed before ordering,failure to do so will delay your order and cause me major headaches! - thanks!

http://www.amiga.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1250&stc=1&d=1302220256

Here are the specs:
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Much smaller than the original.

Works on any voltage from any country 100vac to 240vac. 50 or 60hz

Much more powerful than the original power supply (7AMPS on +5v,1.5Amps on +12v,and .3Amps on -12v).

Uses a standard IEC power cord from any printer or computer(ships with USA cord only).

Completely quiet and no fans.

Lighted power switch - know when its on or off,unlike the original!

Overload Protected - Auto reset when overload is cleared up

Short Protected - Goes into a pulse mode until the short is fixed.Auto reset when short is fixed.

These are intended for desktop machines only, NOT towered machines with zorro/pci expansions!



http://www.amiga.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1251&stc=1&d=1302220329

The second surprise is i have secured a boatload of brand new 3.5" scsi 5-slot card readers!.so what you say? Well these are great for adding compact flash,sdhc,smartmedia,or to your amiga with scsi to use as a hard drive,or even using all 5 slots filled with different cards(a different os on each? mac/pctask partitions?hmm). i have tested them in the A590,gvp A530,HCII+8,on old trumpcards,warpengine,gvp A2000 cards/accelerators,ivs vector,fastlane z3,A4000t scsi,A3000t scsi.these also work on some atari and apple and sampler scsi! they have the latest firmwares and you can hook them right to your 50 pin scsi without any adapters.The bolt anywhere a floppy drive will in most cases.can be put internal in place of the hard drive.all 5 slots fall under 1 SCSI ID with luns..i also have some scsi cables and assorted stuff there,when its gone its gone.

I have set up a online shopping cart with SSL to avoid EBAY this time and the crazy fee's. this also automates the shipping etc and saves me alot of headaches.The price for the power supplies is $42+ shipping(sorry,after the first batch,i tallied the stuff up and made almost nothing after fee's!). Actual shipping is calculated on the shopping cart.Shipping to most of europe/uk etc is around $14 via USPS flatrate small BOX. USA shipping is also calculated.Payment is by PAYPAL only and the cart passes you off to the secure paypal site.
Please understand,i can't control customs and such,but i can guarantee you i shipped the stuff the next morning after you order it!

Oh,you can find these power supplies at http://www.a4000t.com or https://a4000t.com/store  they both go to the same place ;)

if anyone has any questions,please feel free to ask.
Mech

 

Offline mechyTopic starter

Re: Apower desktop PSU for A500/600/1200/cd32 are Back!
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2011, 04:03:09 AM »
thanks red,your check is in the mail as usual.. hehehe

mech



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Mechy is a class guy, buy stuff from him or get the wrath of red.

I am a mechy fanboy.
 

Offline mechyTopic starter

Re: Apower desktop PSU for A500/600/1200/cd32 are Back!
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2011, 06:45:04 AM »
Quote from: Xanxi;629979
Hi.

I have just ordered a PSU. I am already quite happy with the one from the first batch i got :)

I have a question about those SCSI drives: do they allow inserting/removing a card while the computer is running just like a USB adapter or not?



No,these will act like a normal cf adapter used in amiga ,they are not hot swapable.you can mount all 5 slots at the same time and they will act like seperate devices,i.e. can copy between them etc.



mech
 

Offline mechyTopic starter

Re: Apower desktop PSU for A500/600/1200/cd32 are Back!
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2011, 01:48:46 PM »
Yes,no problem there, several 1200 users reported back using a 1200 with bppc,bvision,subway,pcmcia cards,and harddrives run perfectly with the power supply.
they handle any desktop addons.

Quote from: XDelusion;630015
So will these power a 600 with 030, Subway, and other such things, or a 1200 with 80Mhz 060?
 

Offline mechyTopic starter

Re: Apower desktop PSU for A500/600/1200/cd32 are Back!
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2011, 04:31:00 PM »
OK, everyone who has ordered thus far their stuff has been shipped!

thanks!

mech
 

Offline mechyTopic starter

Re: Apower desktop PSU for A500/600/1200/cd32 are Back!
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2011, 05:53:10 PM »
Hey all,
   thought i would post the english version of a post i just left on A1k.org (the german message board). some people had raised valid concerns on my psu's and i thought you guys might like to know how this project came about and what i go through to build these.
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Hello,
 
About 1+ year ago i found some of my old commodore power supplies were failing and began to look for a alternative. My machines are all desktop cased and i did not care for the large atx conversions. I was in search of a small power supply with more power than the stock one. I priced the psu i offered originally in small quantity,but the price was so high ($100+ ea) that it was not cost effective,so i eventually found a vendor that had a large lot (100 psu) of new surplus power supplies for an affordable amount.
I bought the entire lot of 100.this was around august 2010.
After this i was on the hunt for the elusive 5 pin square dins and found about 25. I built some prototypes and tested them for about 4 months under many conditions and loads(I have 33 amiga's here) of which 8 are my test machines with many different accelerators and addon boards,hard drives and compact flash solutions). After several months of 24/7 operation they proved to be very stable and handle the loads fine. Much of my testing was done in my workshop here in texas that reaches temperatures of 105F inside at times in the summer( i did feel bad for my poor 500,600,1200's out there in these conditions though!). A perfect place to test a fanless psu. After this i sent 5 psu's across the world to friends in the UK,denmark,netherlands,canada and germany and 1 inside the usa with the instructions to load them/torture them as much as possible. Two friends used these on A1200's equipped with internal PPC cards and bvision along with subway and indivision and the others had 030 and 060 setups with various expansions.In that time no reports came back of any problems (they are still running today,approx 1+ year later)and the power supplies appeared to be very robust.During this time many people heard about them and began to email me asking for power supplies,but as for the issues stated in jens post and others,i too was concerned about liability and UL/CE ratings because the modifications i made voided the rating(any modification to a UL/CE device means it is no longer this rating,and should be resubmitted with mods for approval - sadly i am a hobbyist and the cost of this would be extremely expensive and no one could of afforded the power supplies).I was not concerned about the work i had done to the power supplies because i have went through great lengths to make them as safe as i could. Using 300V+ wire rated 90c,use of heatshrink anywhere there was a bend or corner or chance for something to rub,and securing wires with hot glue to avoid hot heatsinks and keep wires contained on the underside of the board where the solder joints are.Use of 8 amp quality lighted switches (even tho this power supply will not pull even 1 amp at full load on the a/c side)All switch side connections have heat shrink.Extra glue to ensure the switch can never come loose,etc.
After almost 6+ months of thinking about it and no reports of any troubles from the test units i sent out(as well as the ones i was running at home 24/7),it seemed to me it was possible to release a hobby project of this sort.One reason was because i was building them myself,i had 100% oversight on quality control.Another reason was that much of the electronics/power supplies etc i looked at coming from china flooding our market were of poor quality with bad soldering and pinched/crushed wiring and these somehow were UL/CE listed.Is it even possibly to find or hold a company like this liabel? Sadly,i suspect not in most cases.There had been many cases of chinese wall transformers catching fire.  I began to think what i was offering was of much better quality,regardless if it had a UL/CE sticker on it or not.Sadly we live in a world of lawyers and  i admit this does open me up for trouble but i feel my power supplies are as safe as i can make them and argueably better than some of the original commodore supplies. Mine are fused,have overload and short protection and thermal protection.I then released the first batch of 20 power supplies (announced on amiga.org originally i think in december 2010 and sold on ebay). I stated they were not UL/CE in the original post. They sold out in less than 24 hrs and iwas bombarded with over 150+ more emails from people asking for more!..i have had no problem reports from anyone of the 20 people to this day.Many did write and tell me how much they liked them,and it turns out some people using A1200 in their Dj work really loved the portability of them compared to the original big commodore PSU. Some people have and actually bring their 1200's and 600's with them on trips between the usa and uk liked the multivoltage capability. With the good feedback from people,i decided to go ahead with the project and search for more din connectors but sadly none were available. My only choice was to have a production run of 5 pin square dins made to complete my project which was costly but allowed me to complete the remaining 60~ power supplies. Sadly it takes me almost 2 hours to complete each power supply and profit is almost non exhistant and its a large amount of work for one person.I guess i do this out of love for my amiga,it's certainly not about the money,because i am lucky to make $2/hour-hehe. My intention was not to decieve anyone. I did not intend to "DUMP" anything on anyone.I simply weighed the risks and made a decision to bring these to other amiga people(if they so choose to buy one).I feel good about the decision,and i personally test EVERY single power supply on my own equipment for a 24 hour burn in. I do this because the thought of damaging someones amiga is horrifying to me and i would rather risk my own(in response to someone asking if would replace a damaged 060 board etc). this testing ensures i will not damage anyone machine. I do this because when i send one out the door "I" know it works 100%. I have invested a incredible amont of time and money to do this.I stand behind the power supplies i sell and i am only a message away if someone needs help on a.org,eab,lemon amiga etc. If these do indeed violate german law somehow,then please  disregard this and don't buy a power supply. There must be room in the world for small hobby projects such as mine in todays time,no?
 
 mike
 

Offline mechyTopic starter

Re: Apower desktop PSU for A500/600/1200/cd32 are Back!
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2011, 07:46:18 PM »
thanks for the reply! its good to see it in use. i don't get much feedback on stuff like this, usually only if theres a problem.So far none have surfaced.Thanks for the cudos!

Mike



Quote from: d0pefish;630529
@mechy:

I have had one of your PSUs since January over here in the UK :)

My A600 with ACA630, A603, 2 external floppy drives, PCMCIA LAN card, sound sampler, and various other accessories has had heavy and frequent usage since then, and the power supply has been perfectly rock-solid :D

Simply cannot recommend it enough, it's a great power supply. I've had people ask me where I got it from - really nice to see you've made another batch, I'll point them your way. :)



Cheers! :)
« Last Edit: April 09, 2011, 07:57:39 PM by mechy »
 

Offline mechyTopic starter

Re: Apower desktop PSU for A500/600/1200/cd32 are Back!
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2011, 10:19:27 PM »
No,sorry the pcmcia slot wont run ethernet cards and such,just a pcmcia to CF or other style card adapter.


Quote from: LordSpunky;630572
I would get a card reader for the a4k but I don't have SCSI ;(........hang on a moment!!! - PCMICA reader? On the 4k? Would that run anything PCMICA? hmmmm if only I had SCSI.......
 

Offline mechyTopic starter

Re: Apower desktop PSU for A500/600/1200/cd32 are Back!
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2011, 10:21:03 PM »
@Xdelusion  Packed and will go out monday

@Tingo Packed and will go out monday..

thanks guys!
 

Offline mechyTopic starter

Re: Apower desktop PSU for A500/600/1200/cd32 are Back!
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2011, 04:06:02 PM »
Ok,latest batches have been shipped and can be tracked in your paypal, there are still more left.

thanks
 Mike
 

Offline mechyTopic starter

Re: Apower desktop PSU for A500/600/1200/cd32 are Back!
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2011, 12:37:31 AM »
Quote from: magnetic;631530
Hey mechy

These are really nice, glad you did another batch! I thought you were going to make white ones though.. dont like a mismatched psu with my white a1200 :)


Thanks,
 Well, i had considered at least making a few white ones,but these are off the shelf in black. I thought about painting a few and putting them up but after stripping 600+ wires,and making 600+ solder connection,drilling 60 switch holes,and trimming 60+ labels to fit, and testing the power supplies, i guess i had run out of steam :)))

You were the only person to request a white one i'm afraid.I may still do one or two up for kicks. i will let you know if i do.

Mech
 

Offline mechyTopic starter

Re: Apower desktop PSU for A500/600/1200/cd32 are Back!
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2011, 12:29:34 AM »
Glad to hear that! the latest batch has been mailed. thanks again everyone!
 

Offline mechyTopic starter

Re: Apower desktop PSU for A500/600/1200/cd32 are Back!
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2011, 08:12:48 PM »
Hey everyone,
   I had a user contact me this morning thinking his new power supply had a problem when he moved his machine -it would just shut off. As it turned out it was not a problem and was a case of the new 5 pin din connector just wasnt seated all the way. It's something for everyone to check and make sure they are plugged in good. the new connectors on the psu's i build fit really snug,which is not something were used to in amigaland with 20 year old psu's and worn dins. this of course solved his problem.

  -Mech
 

Offline mechyTopic starter

Re: Apower desktop PSU for A500/600/1200/cd32 are Back!
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2011, 01:37:40 PM »
Quote from: Darrin;633294
Could someone offer some advice here?

The SCSI card reader when attached to the Warp Engine in my A4000 reported the device as Unit 2 and a CF card directly inserted into the CF socket as being at Lun 2.  However, HDToolbox after detecting it would then hang the software.  Find Device would also report the card as being in Unit 2 at Lun 2.  I tried every combination of jumpers for the SCSI adapter on the Warp Engine and nothing allowed me to access the card to format it (always hanging after detecting it on Unit 2 Lun 2).  Using a CF adapter on my FastATA4000 I formatted the card, but the SCSI card reader still wouldn't mount it.

I then attached it to the SCSI adapter on my A2000's GVP G-Force 040 card... and it detected it at Unit 2 Lun 1 and promptly partitioned it, formatted it and mounted it on reboot.

Anyone got any ideas what I'm doing wrong with the A4000?

Cheer.

It is worth pointing out that the CF card on the SCSI card reader out-performs the SCSI hard drive on the same adapter and the CF Card mounted in an adapter attached to the Buddha:

IDE (Buddha) CF Card:  1,414,446 bytes/sec
SCSI Hard Drive:  1,601,694 bytes/sec
SCSI CF Card:  1,876,926 byes/sec

All using FFS.

Darrin,
 Your problem is very strange,as i have tested the readers on my own warpengine 040/40 and it worked flawless with both the card in the cf slot and using the pcmcia adapter to CF in the pcmcia slot. I doubt it has anything to do with it,but make sure mask and max transfer are set right for a scsi device,as some hdtoolbox defaults are not right.

Try using the warpengine  scsi tools from the warpengine floppy.Its on amiga resource if you dont have it.

If you have a active terminator,try using it at the end of the cable and unterminating the scsi reader.again doubtfull this is it.

Try using a different version of hdtoolbox ,there are a few versions known to be problematic.

last resort, you can get a pcmcia to cf adapter and use it in the pcmcia slot,this allows you to address the cf as just device "2" and no luns.

maybe try changing cf cards,not sure what cf card you use but i did the testing with the 2gb transcends i have here all was fine.


Mech
 

Offline mechyTopic starter

Re: Apower desktop PSU for A500/600/1200/cd32 are Back!
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2011, 05:17:57 PM »
Quote from: Darrin;633378
Hi Mechy,

Thnaks for the tips.  I'll keep on playing.  Just out of interest, how are your jumpers on your Warp Engine configured (H, J & K) and do you have the termination power enabled or disabled?

I didn't get the floppy with my used Warp Engine so I'll download it and try it.

The main card I'm using is a 2GB Transcend which I ordered from you.  I also ordered the PCMCIA adapter too, and it doesn't work with that.  I also ordered a round SCSI cable from you too which I'm using on the A4000 and I've tried it attached to different connectors.

The only differences between it working on the A2000 and not working on the A4000 are the CPU cards with teh SCSI adapters and the SCSI cables (I'm using a flat one on the A2000 and the round one on the A4000).  Now that you've mentioned cables, I'll try another cable on the A4000.  The A2000 and A4000 are both using the same Classic Workbench OS3.9 based install so they have the same HDToolbox.  Also, I have a really old Commodore 2091 SCSI card which I can shove in the A4000 and see whether that will place nice with the card reader.

If all else fails, I'm just going to leave it installed in the A2000's second floppy bay.  :)


Mine has:
jumper on K
NO jumper on J
jumper on H
this is for LUN scan 100ns synchronous operation with no boot delay.

you may need delays on these if the machines tries to boot before the card reader can initialize.so don't be afraid to experiment.You may try turning off synchronous operation also.

Termpower is on. the scsi card reader does not supply term power,so termination won't work without the termpower.

note on scsi, you always use the ends of the cable,never have a drive in the middle of the cable and the end hanging with free connectors. i.e. plug one end into the controller and the opposite end into the scsi device. termitate that end device.add any other devices in the middle of the cable.scsi device #'s don't matter much,as song as all devices have different #'s.

I suggest you install a clean os3.1 on the card . the 2091 would also be a good test if it has a reasonable newer rom rev. 6.6 or better i recommend,7 is best.Make sure 2091 jumpers are right..

I'm really thinking you have a mask/max transfer problem.Try the warpdrive scsi hdtools to partition and do a quick format and install a fresh wb3.1 (preferrably Commodores and not patched stuff like classicWb etc.). Check the warp engine ram also,a bad simm could cause these problems.a quick and dirty(but not gauranteed) way to check it is boot with your old setup,then copy stuff to ram just short of the 128MB(assuming u have 128MB on it). if it crashes before it gets to say 127MB you know some ram is flakey or not seated well.