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Offline tone007

Re: IndivisionECS will have dual video output!
« on: August 25, 2009, 01:50:19 PM »
One for each eye!
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Offline tone007

Re: IndivisionECS will have dual video output!
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2009, 03:15:42 AM »
Quote from: ChaosLord;520902
Why doesn't AGA version have this capability?


I'd bet it's because you can't piggyback the AGA versions like you can the ECS ones.

DIP makes everything so simple.
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Offline tone007

Re: IndivisionECS will have dual video output!
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2009, 01:27:06 AM »
Quote from: quarkx;521157
Ouch! $140 each, I guess I will just have to get one, not the 6 I was planning on.


That may be the best example of wishful thinking I've ever seen.
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Offline tone007

Re: IndivisionECS will have dual video output!
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2009, 02:50:08 AM »
2320 is a great card, but if you use LCDs the Indivision wins hands down.
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Offline tone007

Re: IndivisionECS will have dual video output!
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2009, 02:54:25 AM »
Oldschool Amiga scandoublers produce vertical banding on most LCDs, unless you have an infinitely adjustable one to play with clock and phase settings to work them all out.  The Indivisions simply don't have this problem as they're meant to work with "correct" VGA-style screenmodes.  CRTs don't have this trouble with scandoublers, so if you're on one of those, you have your pick of the litter.
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Offline tone007

Re: IndivisionECS will have dual video output!
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2009, 03:05:18 AM »
The issue can be minor or major, depending on the particular LCD you're using.  I have ones I can adjust to almost perfect with the 2320, and others that are painful to look at. I'd say, bottom line, if your heart is set on LCD and you want to be sure of a good clear picture, Indivision is the only way.
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Offline tone007

Re: IndivisionECS will have dual video output!
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2009, 03:34:04 AM »
Quote from: quarkx;521193
This is hardware for the Classes not the masses at this price.

Well, they're not cheap enough to wipe your ass on or anything, but they're in-line with what scandoublers have been costing, and yet they're more modern and provide better/more functionality.

This isn't the "one Indivision in every Amiga" game.  You've gotta want it.
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Offline tone007

Re: IndivisionECS will have dual video output!
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2009, 03:45:25 AM »
Quote from: quarkx;521193
(in fact, you can find NOS flicker fixers for CHEAPER there).

And as previously stated, they don't work as well with modern monitors.

Sure, we all want everything to be cheaper. Unfortunately things cost money.
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Offline tone007

Re: IndivisionECS will have dual video output!
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2009, 04:16:02 AM »
Quote from: quarkx;521197
I call EXTREAME BS  (B F***in S)on that one.


Do you mean to say you think the price is not in line with what a good working scandoubler would cost you on eBay, if you can even find one that works in an A500/A1000?

And how about the fact that this is a new, supported, guaranteed product.  If you buy that dusty old 2320 or Microway on eBay and put it in your 2000 and every time you switch to 8 color 320x240 mode a giant turd floats across your screen, who can you complain to? No one.  Now with the Indivision, you don't have to worry about that.  Jens will work on a fix to get rid of the giant turd.

As for what you know about manufacturing hardware, it costs a hell of a lot less to reproduce old designs than it does to develop and design new products.  Any jerk can etch a few boards.

It's a good product, at a fair price.  I'm sure it'll sell well.
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Offline tone007

Re: IndivisionECS will have dual video output!
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2009, 05:12:16 PM »
Quote from: lou_dias;521318
...tell me that 1 year ago if someone proposed a dual screen Amiga display that they wouldn't be laughed at and told that it was impossible...


I don't think anyone would have called dual screen Amiga display impossible.  There have been two-headed Amiga setups forever (look at multi-monitor RTG setups and Video Toaster stuff.) Sure, it's a bit different, but the idea isn't foreign.
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Offline tone007

Re: IndivisionECS will have dual video output!
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2009, 03:06:22 PM »
Darn, I've got a VXL-30 accelerator on top of my CFIDE68k, and I can't go any higher (already had to grind down the motherboard mounts to get it all to fit.)  Guess I'll have to put the Indivison in another machine, or try my luck with a homemade extender board or cable.
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Offline tone007

Re: IndivisionECS will have dual video output!
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2009, 07:41:35 PM »
Quote from: quarkx;521733
Maybe you better go back and re-read the posts.


You go back and spell/grammar check your posts first.  Reading them the first time was painful enough.
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