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Hello everyone,
I know ZIP memory chips for the A3000 are rare and everyone can be temped to buy anything that looks compatible.

If you find item 220112349409 on eBay, be warned that these chips are 1Mbit x 1 chips. THESE ARE TOTALLY INCOMPATIBLE WITH ALL VERSIONS OF THE AMIGA 3000 OR 3000T.

PLUGGING THESE IN AN AMIGA 3000 CAN CAUSE PERMANENT DAMAGE.

The Amiga 3000 and 3000T uses ONLY 256kbit x 4 chips or 1Mbit x 4 chips. Most often the part number will be 514400 or 514402.

Thank you all.
 

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Re: Warning to ALL! German guy selling A3000 ZIPS on eBay! BAD!
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2007, 10:27:51 AM »
Personally I have no use for those modules and I have no connection to the seller, but I do see several positive feedbacks to him from buyers that have bought these MCM511000AZ10 modules so I guess they haven't caused permanent damage ...

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Re: Warning to ALL! German guy selling A3000 ZIPS on eBay! BAD!
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2007, 10:28:33 AM »
I had contacted 'amix68k' a couple of weeks ago and he acted surprised and pointed to his positive feedbacks - the lack of negative fbs seems to indicate that
- there's no problem reversing the deal
- these chips actually do work (I don't think so)
- none of the buyers has actually used the chips
- the buyers knew better and used the zips for something else...
 

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Re: Warning to ALL! German guy selling A3000 ZIPS on eBay! BAD!
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2007, 11:04:39 AM »
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Zac67 wrote:
I had contacted 'amix68k' a couple of weeks ago and he acted surprised and pointed to his positive feedbacks - the lack of negative fbs seems to indicate that
- there's no problem reversing the deal
- these chips actually do work (I don't think so)
- none of the buyers has actually used the chips
- the buyers knew better and used the zips for something else...


It is quite possible these chips were purchased by people specifically looking for that part number and couldn't care less that the seller claims they work with the Amiga 3000.
 

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Re: Warning to ALL! German guy selling A3000 ZIPS on eBay! BAD!
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2007, 01:58:52 PM »
I have dealt quite often with him buying and selling parts on Ebay and on amiga-news.de never had a Problem. He might be wrong on this one bit in general is totally relyable.
Not really interesting, but it`s there.
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Re: Warning to ALL! German guy selling A3000 ZIPS on eBay! BAD!
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2007, 11:15:14 PM »
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I have dealt quite often with him buying and selling parts on Ebay and on amiga-news.de never had a Problem. He might be wrong on this one bit in general is totally relyable.


Well, you see for yourself the part no. on the chips he's selling and what you find in this cross-reference memory chart. http://www.infinityelectronics.com/crossref.htm

The Amiga 3000 requires 1Mbit x 4 chips or 256kbit x 4 chips.
 

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Re: Warning to ALL! German guy selling A3000 ZIPS on eBay! BAD!
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2007, 01:30:13 PM »
He's at it AGAIN... see item 220116843536

These ZIPs are NOT compatible with Amiga 3000.
 

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Re: Warning to ALL! German guy selling A3000 ZIPS on eBay! BAD!
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2007, 03:52:34 PM »
AVOID THIS GUY AT ALL COSTS!
 

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Re: Warning to ALL! German guy selling A3000 ZIPS on eBay! BAD!
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2007, 02:27:59 PM »
At the moment I am confused. I asked a local dealer to find out and the told me the ZIPs are compatible.
Also I sold some of those sets and all feedbacks were positive, so I assumed they do work.
 

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Re: Warning to ALL! German guy selling A3000 ZIPS on eBay! BAD!
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2007, 04:36:23 PM »
No. The A3000's memory is arranged in banks of 8 chips, each 4 bits wide (8x4 = 32 bits). Thus 8x 514400 (1Mx4) yield 1Mx32, equaling 4 MByte (4Mx8).
(Alternatively 514256 (256Kx4) can be used, but this is of no importance here.)

Your sets of 8x 511000 (1Mx1) result in 1Mx8 - which is nothing any Amiga could use, since it's only 8 bits wide and even an A1000 needs 16 bits.

You state:
"Die hier angebotenen Module waren in einem Amiga verbaut (ich meine auf dem Motherboard eines 3000ers), wo genau, weiss ich nicht mehr."
"The offered modules were used in an Amiga"
- definitely not - eventually in sets of 16 or 32
"(i mean on the motherboard of a 3000),"
- more definitely not, see above
"where exactly I don't know any more."
- erm, you just said it was an A3k mainboard, just two words later you don't remember??

The modules seem to have been desoldered - the A3000 carries sockets for everything but the 1st MB chip ram (DIP).
 

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Re: Warning to ALL! German guy selling A3000 ZIPS on eBay! BAD!
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2007, 04:42:42 PM »
Interesting...the more this guy amix68k responds the bigger the web of lies gets.

Very dishonest!
 

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Re: Warning to ALL! German guy selling A3000 ZIPS on eBay! BAD!
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2007, 07:56:47 PM »
@Zac67
I do not remeber  your contact. It is quite some time when I used those chips, as in all my 3000s I have SIMMfonie-Adapters now (yes James, I have mor than ona Amiga and I could have checked the Picasso, but I have a very time-consumimg real life and thats why I offered the card untested, but thats only to stop trying to shoot in my knee again ;) ). Thats why I was very vague in the description were they come from and was very precise in the correct prints on the chips.

@all
I have altered the auction. If anybody had problems with the ZIP-Ram I sold him, drop me a mail.
 

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Re: Warning to ALL! German guy selling A3000 ZIPS on eBay! BAD!
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2007, 08:22:36 PM »
Great - thanks!
 

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Re: Warning to ALL! German guy selling A3000 ZIPS on eBay! BAD!
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2007, 11:58:35 AM »
Looks like he has one unhappy customer!!!

Latest feedback left

These chip are not compatible with amiga 3000

Now I am sure that if there was a problem he would have offered a refund and avoided the negative feedback.  Wonder what happened  :-?