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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: jack-3d on April 20, 2016, 02:16:59 PM

Title: Wanted: E3B Deneb USB
Post by: jack-3d on April 20, 2016, 02:16:59 PM
Looking for E3B Deneb USB, fully tested and fully working.
Title: Re: Wanted: E3B Deneb USB
Post by: magnetic on April 20, 2016, 06:12:41 PM
You and everyone else bro man. They are no longer made and the people that have them are not giving them up good luck
Title: Re: Wanted: E3B Deneb USB
Post by: jack-3d on April 20, 2016, 07:06:49 PM
So its forbiden to ask? Or is there any other way how to get/buy one?
Title: Re: Wanted: E3B Deneb USB
Post by: Acill on April 20, 2016, 11:11:33 PM
Quote from: jack-3d;807379
So its forbiden to ask? Or is there any other way how to get/buy one?


I think he is just saying not to get your hopes up. They are very hard to come by. You may be better off getting an X-surf and a Rapid Road combo if its just USB you are looking for.
Title: Re: Wanted: E3B Deneb USB
Post by: WeiXing3D on April 21, 2016, 01:29:34 AM
Quote from: jack-3d;807379
So its forbiden to ask? Or is there any other way how to get/buy one?


Get the X-SURF 100 with Clockport and Roadshow. I'm using it with my 3000 and it works great.

It's available from several vendors. I bought mine from Amedia Computer in France and I got delivered here in the U.S. They had it in stock.
Title: Re: Wanted: E3B Deneb USB
Post by: bbond007 on April 21, 2016, 01:34:29 AM
Quote from: magnetic;807377
You and everyone else bro man. They are no longer made and the people that have them are not giving them up good luck


I have see them sell for $600
Title: Re: Wanted: E3B Deneb USB
Post by: F1Lupo on April 21, 2016, 01:34:56 AM
Quote from: WeiXing3D;807385
Get the X-SURF 100 with Clockport and Roadshow. I'm using it with my 3000 and it works great.

It's available from several vendors. I bought mine from Amedia Computer in France and I got delivered here in the U.S. They had it in stock.

got mine recently from Amigakit and got to me here in Canada in less than a week:)
Title: Re: Wanted: E3B Deneb USB
Post by: Pgovotsos on April 21, 2016, 02:57:22 AM
You CAN find Denebs here and on AmiBay and for less than $600 USD. I recently got 2 on AmiBay and 1 here for a low of €350 and a high of €450 or $400 - $500 USD. Watch for 4000 systems for sale that have some expansion cards. I've gotten 2 that had a Deneb in them. It can cost more to buy a whole system but the cost of the individual components is cheaper than buying separately. Of course, that's only a good idea if you have a use for many of the components or think you can sell them for a good price and recoup the costs.

The X-Surf and RapidRoad works, it works very well. In many cases, though, I prefer the Deneb because it supports DMA (with the right revision Buster and Deneb firmware) but the best feature is the 4MB flash RAM on it. 2MB has the Poseidon USB stack installed. The other 2MB you can install other things like libraries. For the machines that I haven't installed 3.9 Kickstarts in yet, I have all of the 3.9 (and other patched / updated modules) in the Deneb's flash RAM which lets me boot to AmigaOS 3.9 without any resets which greatly reduces boot up time. You can also install the files needed so that Poseidon is active / available at boot up so you can use USB devices like keyboards and mice at boot up. It also lets you boot from a USB flash drive or hard drive.

It doesn't hurt that the Deneb is fast as heck. I've got one machine booting from a high speed thumb drive and file access is amazingly fast - windows (even un-snapshotted ones) open instantly. It's a convenient and fast way to experiment with different configurations.

The Deneb can be (usually is) expensive but it can be worth every penny IMO.
Title: Re: Wanted: E3B Deneb USB
Post by: jack-3d on April 21, 2016, 07:40:51 AM
Quote from: Acill;807384
I think he is just saying not to get your hopes up. They are very hard to come by. You may be better off getting an X-surf and a Rapid Road combo if its just USB you are looking for.

Three years ago I had just A1200 and I wanted to buy both A4000 and A4000T heavily loaded. Everyone said it will be hard to get... Now I have all of them, just Deneb is missing in my config. So I say its just combination of luck, time and money.

I have XSurf+Rapidroad as well, it works well in most of the Amigas but it does not work well in Mediator 4000Di (yes I tried Z2 mode as well as all other possibilities). The only USB cards working with Mediator are Spider, Thylacine and Deneb (friend borrowed me Deneb for compatibility tests). First two are slow and the only usable is Deneb.

So I can offer Minithylacine or XSurf100+Rapidroad to be part of the deal for exchange + cash compensation.
Title: Re: Wanted: E3B Deneb USB
Post by: Acill on April 21, 2016, 06:05:57 PM
Quote from: jack-3d;807391
Three years ago I had just A1200 and I wanted to buy both A4000 and A4000T heavily loaded. Everyone said it will be hard to get... Now I have all of them, just Deneb is missing in my config. So I say its just combination of luck, time and money.

I have XSurf+Rapidroad as well, it works well in most of the Amigas but it does not work well in Mediator 4000Di (yes I tried Z2 mode as well as all other possibilities). The only USB cards working with Mediator are Spider, Thylacine and Deneb (friend borrowed me Deneb for compatibility tests). First two are slow and the only usable is Deneb.

So I can offer Minithylacine or XSurf100+Rapidroad to be part of the deal for exchange + cash compensation.


I have an A4000T with a CSPPC in it, mediator, spider II, Radeon, voodoo 5, fm801 sound, bigram+, x-surf 100 with rapid road and an eflash 4000. All work perfectly. I don't use the Rapid Road much since the latest spider II is working so well, but it does work fine in ZIII mode.

Anyone have one for sale, lets help him out and sell it! :)
Title: Re: Wanted: E3B Deneb USB
Post by: QuikSanz on April 22, 2016, 01:54:08 AM
I have an Algor for my A2000 and A4000T, wouldn't part with them, no way!
Title: Re: Wanted: E3B Deneb USB
Post by: mechy on April 22, 2016, 05:17:01 PM
Quote from: Acill;807401
I have an A4000T with a CSPPC in it, mediator, spider II, Radeon, voodoo 5, fm801 sound, bigram+, x-surf 100 with rapid road and an eflash 4000. All work perfectly. I don't use the Rapid Road much since the latest spider II is working so well, but it does work fine in ZIII mode.

Anyone have one for sale, lets help him out and sell it! :)


I could probably will my deneb to him when i die,but until then its not going anywhere :laugh1:

i only wish i had bought more of them when they are available. That being said the Algor Pro i have is great also.
Title: Re: Wanted: E3B Deneb USB
Post by: dovegrace on April 22, 2016, 06:31:28 PM
Quote from: jack-3d;807371
Looking for E3B Deneb USB, fully tested and fully working.


PM'ed!
Title: Re: Wanted: E3B Deneb USB
Post by: jack-3d on April 22, 2016, 09:38:07 PM
PM replied :)
Title: Re: Wanted: E3B Deneb USB
Post by: Acill on April 22, 2016, 10:29:02 PM
Quote from: jack-3d;807425
PM replied :)


What!! Tell us what you end up getting it for, super jealous!
Title: Re: Wanted: E3B Deneb USB
Post by: dovegrace on April 23, 2016, 12:46:41 AM
Seller may also have a problem A4000D for sale soon, too...
Title: Re: Wanted: E3B Deneb USB
Post by: LoadWB on April 23, 2016, 01:46:33 AM
Quote from: mechy;807416
I could probably will my deneb to him when i die,but until then its not going anywhere :laugh1:

i only wish i had bought more of them when they are available. That being said the Algor Pro i have is great also.


Right.  I would have liked to have picked up a couple more when I bought mine.  I did just get a Thyalcine to go into my 2000.

The FlashROM in the Deneb is far too valuable to me to ever give up.
Title: Re: Wanted: E3B Deneb USB
Post by: jack-3d on April 24, 2016, 09:51:58 PM
Deal made and Deneb paid. Looking forward to replace Thylacine :hammer:

Thank you dovegrace! :)
Title: Re: Wanted: E3B Deneb USB
Post by: Acill on April 25, 2016, 12:48:44 AM
Quote from: jack-3d;807503
Deal made and Deneb paid. Looking forward to replace Thylacine :hammer:

Thank you dovegrace! :)


Wow, never thought anyone would let one go! Grats man!!!
Title: Re: Wanted: E3B Deneb USB
Post by: jack-3d on April 25, 2016, 07:37:25 AM
I promise Deneb will have nice home in A4000 with Cyberstorm MK3, Mediator MK3, Sonnet G3, Voodoo4, ...

And after replacement I can let out my Mini-thylacine (which is also rare USB card produced in limited amount) and make someone happy with it.
Title: Re: Wanted: E3B Deneb USB
Post by: Acill on April 25, 2016, 01:38:27 PM
Quote from: jack-3d;807514
I promise Deneb will have nice home in A4000 with Cyberstorm MK3, Mediator MK3, Sonnet G3, Voodoo4, ...

And after replacement I can let out my Mini-thylacine (which is also rare USB card produced in limited amount) and make someone happy with it.


I've been looking for a Sonnet if you have a spare or know where to get one ;)
Title: Re: Wanted: E3B Deneb USB
Post by: dovegrace on April 25, 2016, 02:32:59 PM
Quote from: jack-3d;807503
Deal made and Deneb paid. Looking forward to replace Thylacine :hammer:

Thank you dovegrace! :)


My pleasure, hope it serves you well!
Title: Re: Wanted: E3B Deneb USB
Post by: dovegrace on April 25, 2016, 02:38:17 PM
Quote from: Acill;807506
Wow, never thought anyone would let one go! Grats man!!!


I never thought I'd sell it, but since the A2000 it was in died, and with my A4000D being more trouble & frustration than I care to expend, it was sitting there unused.  Glad it went to someone who'll use it!
Title: Re: Wanted: E3B Deneb USB
Post by: jack-3d on June 15, 2016, 09:13:20 AM
Yesterday I finally tested the Deneb in my Amiga.

Z2 mode = working
PIO mode = working
DMA mode = working
FlashROM = working
Masstorage = working
USB ethernet = working
USB sound card = working

I am absolutely happy!!!

THANK YOU dovegrace VERY MUCH ;o)
Title: Re: Wanted: E3B Deneb USB
Post by: dovegrace on June 15, 2016, 12:00:43 PM
My pleasure, glad you could make use of it!