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Title: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: spihunter on November 19, 2007, 02:22:39 AM
I hate to even post this, but I thought I would warn the local folks here that this is the new alias of "you know who"

It looks all clean at first until you read the auction questions.... :crazy:

example auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320170829834)
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: countzero on November 19, 2007, 03:01:05 AM
there's already another thread on this ... funny you can see the guy and his tripod camera on the reflection on the monitor :)

"Notice how clean this Atari 1040STe is.  I always washed my hands before using this computer." priceless :)
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: weirdami on November 19, 2007, 03:33:11 AM
Half the things in the picture aren't even included in the auction. And, he's a big jerk to the question askers.
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: Protek on November 19, 2007, 05:51:33 AM
$99.95 starting bid! I got my 1040 STe for 5 euro from a recycling center. Have to admit that the case wasn't in such a presteen shape as he claims it to be.
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: McVenco on November 19, 2007, 07:40:15 AM
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Notice how clean this Atari 1040STe is.  I always washed my hands before using this computer.


Yeah. But God knows how dirty his hands were after he finished using this computer....
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: CLS2086 on November 19, 2007, 06:38:36 PM
strange screen off...
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: amesie2 on November 23, 2007, 06:04:36 AM
I see Doomy has an ad on Craig's list too for the same 4000 that is on Ebay.

LINK (http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/sys/480126273.html)
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: AmigaHeretic on November 23, 2007, 07:31:00 AM
Quote

McVenco wrote:
Quote
Notice how clean this Atari 1040STe is.  I always washed my hands before using this computer.


Yeah. But God knows how dirty his hands were after he finished using this computer....


His hands?  Just think about how dirty those poor serial ports were when he was done with them.  Like Doomy said in his video.  He's always had a strange facination with computers that he just can't explain.  

Saves money I suppose. To possibly coin a phrase, "The Computer IS the porn."  Ewwww.....   :knuddel:
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: weirdami on November 23, 2007, 07:32:20 AM
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7X magnification


 :-o
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: Oli_hd on November 23, 2007, 10:12:12 AM
Did anyone elses heart miss a beat when they read the hgcsales bit? I instantly thought of the Haynie Garage clearout sale he did about four years ago. Argh :)
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: bobamu on November 23, 2007, 10:47:48 AM
Indeed, what an extremely rude response to a completely reasonable question.

He also doesn't specify the items not included despite taking a picture of everything thus giving the potential of confusion.

No wonder he gets the respect he does around here. :)

Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: bobamu on November 23, 2007, 10:49:46 AM
you expect to pay over the odds for something AND have it work? :crazy:

:)


Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: bobamu on November 23, 2007, 10:52:25 AM
no no! you mentioned the video!! no!

*cries*

I'd forgotten about that
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: tokyoracer on November 23, 2007, 11:40:24 AM
3 posts in 5 mins, why?

Anyway, I like it when he offers part exchange. Not forgetting the things hes asking for next to no Amigan would even think of having (halo figures?!). The best by far is he would swap it for a rareish, like new A3000 and still insists an extra $300 on top of that!!! :crazy:

Dream on Doomy.

P.s. Why does he knock $300 off for a Halo 3 game?! For starters it is worth nowhere near that even that legendary pack. This guy is truly insane.
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: A1260 on November 23, 2007, 01:11:56 PM
"Notice how clean this Atari 1040STe is.  I always washed my hands before using this computer."


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: TheMud on November 23, 2007, 01:17:32 PM
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tokyoracer wrote:

P.s. Why does he knock $300 off for a Halo 3 game?! For starters it is worth nowhere near that even that legendary pack. This guy is truly insane.


I think the man want the game Halo 3 and the X Box 360 :-)

The man is mad ... :-)
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: tokyoracer on November 23, 2007, 01:23:25 PM
Speeking of the devil...

Heres the e-mail I got back from him:

Anyway, I like it when he offers part exchange. Not forgetting the things hes asking for next to no Amigan would even think of having (halo figures?!).
 
WRONG!  There are many people that have Amiga computers who also have an XBOX, played Halo, Halo 2, and collect the Halo Figures.
 
 The best by far is he would swap it for a rareish, like new A3000 and still insists an extra $300 on top of that!!!
 
That is because an Amiga 3000 computer is only worth about $200.  So, when you subtract $200 from $500, that leaves a balance of $300.


Dream on Doomy.
 
I am not a dreamer like you are.  I am a doer.

P.s. Why does he knock $300 off for a Halo 3 game?! For starters it is worth nowhere near that even that legendary pack.
 
You really should learn how to understand what you read.  I stated that I would knock off $300 for a Halo 3 XBOX 360, not a Halo 3 game.
 
 This guy is truly insane.
 
No, I am not insane.  But, it sounds like you are.  Stop talking s**t about me if you do not know what the hell you are talking about.
 
Sincerely,
The DoomMaster

My responce:

Dear Doomy (George Campbell),

Ive known no Amiga user who is into Halo 3 but if you know plenty fair enough, at the end of the day it's personal experiance.

An A3000 is rare here, certainly in mint condition.
Doer? I think the reports from other people that have supposibly bought your items, you dont seem to be doing an aweful lot for them.

About the 360, I dont think you were very clear on the info. "Xbox 360 Halo Edition" would have made more sence.

I'm not talking s**t about you at all. I think the people speek for themselfs about your attitude problems, service and the abuse from you. I personally don't think you deserve to be an Amiga user and I find it especially insulting that you e-mail me and not reply on me to tell it infront of people you have p****d off. I'm just sorry that people have to deal with this from you.

Regards,
T.R.

What a nice chap... :lol:

[EDIT] Not to mention his 4000 isn't worth that much in the first place. It is nothing spetacular to be honest.
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: McVenco on November 23, 2007, 01:28:20 PM
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I see Doomy has an ad on Craig's list too for the same 4000 that is on Ebay.

LINK (http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/sys/480126273.html)


Hmmm, let's see what he's selling then:

"2 floppy disk drives"
No HD-drives, that's for sure...

"Other Amiga programs were also installed"
LhA and muchmore? Pretty much nothing saying...

"The 68040 / 25 MHz board appears to be in great shape"
Appears? Nuff said.

" I examined it under 7X magnification and all of the capacitors looked good, no leaks"
So the caps are good. How about all those other thingies that sit on the board?

"You will not find another Amiga 4000 that is in better shape then this one."
*looks at desk* Ehm, there's 2 over here :-)
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: stopthegop on November 23, 2007, 01:35:46 PM
His auctions/ads stick out like an elephant at a tea social.  Its amazing that people still fall victim to this cretin.  It is kind of fun to poke fun I'll admit..  :)
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: bobamu on November 23, 2007, 10:50:08 PM
Because I felt it appropriate to respond to the other posts, what with this being a webforum

I hope this suitably justifies my posts to you.
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: Terse on November 23, 2007, 11:00:09 PM
That Halo 3 Ltd Edition consle is $400 and came out about 2 months ago.  noody just has one gathering dust.  So he's asking for a new $400 item plus $200 cash.

Speaking of Xbox and Amiga, Jeff Minter hates your type:
Get over old retro games and Amiga games and grow up XBox fans. (http://stinkygoat.livejournal.com/115261.html)
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: AmigaPete on November 23, 2007, 11:40:32 PM
I think we should all start posting questions about his auction contents - "Is that wooden stand included with the Amiga 4000?".

Also...

Quote
NO SHIPPING OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA !  It is too expensive and I do not want to fill out stupid customs forms or have to jump through unnecessary hoops.


Pssst... hey Doomy, doesn't the buyer usually pay shipping costs? And you must fill out a customs declaration form when shipping from the US to Canada.

What a douchebag.

Pete
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: odin on November 24, 2007, 09:14:47 PM
Jeff Minter has been in a huff about the reception of Space Giraffe for a while now. Totally undeserved if you ask me, alot of reviews have been saying that it's a marmite-type of game and that it is a brilliant game if you're into weird non-mainstream games.
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: Chain on November 26, 2007, 05:43:19 AM
vaio cd drive for a1200  :lol:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-External-CD-ROM-Drive-for-the-Amiga-1200-and-600_W0QQitemZ320187767372QQihZ011QQcategoryZ4598QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: LoadWB on December 01, 2007, 06:45:04 PM
Off topic, but based on his post, I would say Jeff Minter is a cry-baby prick.

I just had this discussion not long ago with a friend who is about six years younger than me.  He is in a kind-of limbo between the "retro" and "modern" consoles, and made a generalized assertion about "retro" gaming and nostalgia.

It quickly hit me that I do not play "retro" games solely for nostalgia.  Instead, in most cases I play "retro" games because they are good games, timeless games with great programming, story line or flow, and so on.  Some games just were and are still good, period.

And if you cannot stomach that, then get the fsck out.
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: meega on December 01, 2007, 06:51:28 PM
Does anyone think that auction included the mouse?
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: Gwion on December 01, 2007, 06:58:19 PM
Question & Answer Answered On
 
Q:  Does it incl the CDROM? Oct-18-07
A:   Did you actually read the auction description? Did you even read the auction title? It states: Atari 1040STe with 4 megabytes of RAM, TOS 2.05, and a High-Density disk drive. Nowhere in the auction does it say that the monitor, hard disk drive, or CD-Rom drive is included.
(very moody!!!!)
Q:  HI, Does this atari come with a Monochrome monitor and a hard drive? how big of a hard drive? thanks. Oct-17-07
A:   No, not for the low starting bid amount of only $99.95. A hard drive for the Atari ST would sell for between $125 to $180 by itself, especially a SupraDrive Atari Hard Disk. A nice Atari monochrome monitor sells for between $25 to $65.
OMG over priced!
 
This man needs to take a chill pill!
Dont let him near a Amiga he'll smash it! :P
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: hamtronix on December 01, 2007, 07:06:56 PM
doesnt take paypal and wants you to wait 6 - 8 weeks to process a check... oh and he is a very bad seller that Ebay should have banned long ago.
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: tokyoracer on December 01, 2007, 07:37:23 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Commodore-Amiga-4000-Computer-NEW-CONDITION_W0QQitemZ320189835857QQihZ011QQcategoryZ4598QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

"NOTE:  I will not let this fabulous Amiga 4000 computer go for less then $499.95.  I have seen them in poor condition sell for $250.00 to $375.00 here on eBay.  So, I know that an Amiga 4000 in like new condition has a present value of at least $499.95 to $800.00.  I am including the hard to find Amiga 4000 keyboard for FREE!  The keyboard is slightly yellowed, but, as you can plainly see in the picture, it is in excellent condition."

What sort of "poor" 4000's have you seen?! $375 for one to be labeled as poor would be insane. At least this time the picture shows what comes with it for once instead of people having to ask him questions all the time. :roll: Still at $500 (£250) it is a hell of a price for a fairly basic 4000 even if it is white, especially hes a PayPal hater. It could have been sprayed? :-?
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: LoadWB on December 01, 2007, 07:40:13 PM
If I'm not mistaken, that 4000's been listed more than once now.
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: meega on December 01, 2007, 07:42:57 PM
@tokyoracer

Please fix that link.
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: BodyHammeR on December 01, 2007, 08:10:03 PM
Quote

Gwion wrote:
A hard drive for the Atari ST would sell for between $125 to $180 by itself, especially a SupraDrive Atari Hard Disk. A nice Atari monochrome monitor sells for between $25 to $65.


Wow. This would mean the junk in my room is worth way more than I thought!

I AM A RICH MAN! YAAAAY!

;-)
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: adolescent on December 01, 2007, 08:49:45 PM
Funny thing is he "will not let this fabulous Amiga 4000 computer go for less then $499.95", yet the auction has a Best Offer option.   :crazy:

Oh well, good luck with the auction.  
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: hamtronix on December 01, 2007, 09:21:19 PM
we should all offer a 1$ and see if he will smash it and upload the video to youtube!!
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: Ken86Stang on December 01, 2007, 09:37:36 PM
I offered him 125..  See what he says!  :-P
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: spihunter on December 01, 2007, 10:10:44 PM
@Ken86Stang,

Man, is that going to make him mad. Expect a response with lots O' cussing :-o
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: WotTheFook on December 01, 2007, 10:31:27 PM
The guy is a waste of air and skin, always has been, always will be, it's knobs like him that drive prices up and {bleep} the whole market up for us all.

WTF
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: amesie2 on December 01, 2007, 11:27:23 PM
I asked him some questions a couple days before the auction ended and it was relisted. I never heard a word from him.

I wanted to know if both floppies were HD and if they worked. I also inquired about a mouse and I think the harddrive.

I got NOTHING!
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: Ken86Stang on December 02, 2007, 01:22:36 AM
Actually the only reply I got back was "Lol!"  I like how someone asked him if the stand was included.  I was gonna do that!
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: Ken86Stang on December 02, 2007, 01:23:58 AM
spihunter:

That's what I was hoping for.  :lol:
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: LoadWB on December 02, 2007, 06:25:59 AM
@Fook,

I cannot really agree with the idea that he as a seller is one of the ones that drives up prices.  I believe his $500 A4000 has been re-listed once, so obviously people are not falling for his crap.

Either that, or someone who would have agreed to his out-dated and dubious payment terms asked him an honest question and he struck back at them with the venom that is his standard.

The guy is full of fecal matter of the highest stench.  I have seen MUCH better A4000's than his sell for what he is asking for what appears to be a bog-standard setup, excepting for the second floppy -- which still does not merit the asking price.

He is a putz and trying to squeeze as much as he can from those who still carry the faith.  He seems to me to be the kind of guy who would put an Atari 2600 Pac-Man cartridge up, list it as "rare" and/or "vintage" and demand $40 or more for it because it is still in the box.  Even though the damned things are as common as boogers and as rare as Brittany Spears court documents.

Of course, I am preaching to the choir and echoing the sentiments of many before me.  Some may see my diatribe as a waste of time, effort, and bandwidth, but a body will continue to react to a cancer until it goes away.  As does my mind.

I just wish there was some way to publicly out him in a way that would actually affect his ability to sell and buy Amiga.  I heard he uses intimidation tactics on buyers and sellers alike.  Were doing so not a real waste of effort, I would enjoy getting into a row with him just so I could squash him.
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: WotTheFook on December 02, 2007, 10:53:04 AM
@ George

I got your e-mail, I think it's nice that you treat everyone with equal contempt, at least you are consistent. I am somewhat surprised that you chose to confront me via e-mail instead of this thread, was there a reason for this perhaps???

Judging by the way you reply to questions in your auctions I am surprised you are allowed to trade on Ebay at all. I may be a n00b on here, that doesn't mean I am a n00b elsewhere, does it?

In spite of what you said in your e-mail (which i won't post here for your sake) most of the community think you aren't ethical, the fact that you have changed Ebay accounts so many times speaks volumes more that you ever could....

I will not descend to your level of insults and obscenities in e-mails and posts, you are only undermining your own credibility.

Perhaps if you treated people the way you expect to be treated then things could be different, or maybe you are doing this already....

I think some anger management is in order for you. Now go and insult someone else.

WTF



Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: spihunter on December 03, 2007, 06:46:06 PM
Its down to $399!!!

Doomy A4000 auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/Commodore-Amiga-4000-Computer-NEW-CONDITION_W0QQitemZ320189835857QQihZ011QQcategoryZ4598QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)


Come on, someone buy! Doomy needs some Christmas cash.
You'll probably get it sometime in March.

 :lol:
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: motorollin on December 03, 2007, 06:59:31 PM
@WTF
Oh go on, post his email :-)

--
moto
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: ShawnDude on December 03, 2007, 07:32:27 PM
The current auction question.

"Q:  Do you still have the key for the computer? Do you still have software that came with the machine? Thanks.
A:   If I had the key, I would sell it on eBay for $15 to $25. Workbench 3.1 is already installed on the hard drive. You should already be familiar with this method, because this is the way modern PC computers are set up. You do not get the software CD or disks. You have to pay extra for them."

$15 to $25 for a generic key????  :lol:
No software disk, because current systems don't provide a disk unless you pay extra??? All systems I bought, even current ones come with recovery CDs. And anyway, how does that matter to a system from 20+ years ago that when sold came with the system disks?

But at least he responds to this question.

"Q:  Hi again, would you throw in the stand as well? my drives would fit great under them!
A:   Yes, but it would have to be shipped in a box by itself. I am sure that you would not want the stand to rub on or damage the Amiga 4000 computer. You will need the stand for the Amiga 4000, because without it, the keyboard blocks access to the disk drives, especially the lower one."

Though he doesn't mention how much extra that stand would cost you. It appears to be 2 2x4's about 2 foot long each, and 2 1x12's about as wide as the keyboard, plus a few screws.  So it would cost about $20 to build 2 of them. It would have been better to have it so the keyboard could slide under the computer to get it out of the way when you don't need it.
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: tokyoracer on December 03, 2007, 07:42:25 PM
Look at the latest question...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320189835857&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123

@WTF - Go onnnn.... I posted the bossy e-mail he sent me. :-)
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: LoadWB on December 03, 2007, 07:47:28 PM
Actually, what he's doing is probably illegal in terms of licensing.  "Modern PC systems are done this way" indeed.

What he's doing is using the same single set of OS disks to install each different hard drive heading out the door.  Contrary to OEM system builders who purchase a license for every installation that leaves them, and from whom you can purchase or receive for free the original installation media.

He's not just a phuqtard, he's a thief and a pirate.  And those are my legally defensible opinions.  I hope someone at Amiga reads these threads.
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: amiga92570 on December 03, 2007, 08:09:34 PM
Quote

tokyoracer wrote:
Look at the latest question...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320189835857&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123

@WTF - Go onnnn.... I posted the bossy e-mail he sent me. :-)


Please write back and ask him which user feedback you should evaluate him with?  :lol:
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: WotTheFook on December 03, 2007, 08:21:00 PM
Okay,

for those that asked for the e-mail he sent me....

>>The guy is a waste of air and skin, always has been, always will be,
 
Why do you say that?  Do you even know what you are talking about?  Have you ever met me?  Do you even know me?  No you do not, so stop talking {bleep} about me.
 
>>it's knobs like him that drive prices up and {bleep} the whole market up for us all.
 
I am not a knobs, but you are.  I study the Amiga and Atari ST market.  I am on eBay every day and I watch and keep a record of what Amiga and Atari ST items sell for.  Anotherwards, I do my homework before I list an item.  What makes my Amiga 4000 worth at least $500 is its new condition.  If I still had the original box for it, the computer would sell for over $1000.00.  It is the condition of an item that drives its value up.  So, the closer an item is to new condition, the more valuable it is.  And this is what you NOOBS seem to forget.  Or are you just one of those assholes that try to get nice things for nothing.
 
STOP TALKING {bleep} ABOUT ME IF YOU DO NOT  KNOW WHAT THE {bleep} YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, NOOB !

Hmm... I guess he really tries to endear himself to the community he so gladly rips off.....

"I always washed my hands before using this computer..."

Yeah, I bet he did, to wash off the cr@p he talks all of the time, who would really write stuff like this in an advert, you couldn't make this up....

WTF
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: motorollin on December 03, 2007, 08:23:27 PM
Quote
Doomy wrote:
I am not a knobs, but you are

:lol:

"I know you are but what am I?"

--
moto
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: amiga92570 on December 03, 2007, 08:26:26 PM
I just want to make sure nobody takes it personally the way he  talks. I think he has Tourette's or something. I wonder if Tourette's affects your writing as well as speach?  :-?
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: amiga92570 on December 03, 2007, 08:29:58 PM
Ok its official. Just email him when he is sleeping.:lol:

Can people with Tourette Syndrome control their tics?

People with Tourette Syndrome can sometimes suppress their tics for a short time, but the effort is similar to that of holding back a sneeze. Eventually tension mounts to the point where the tic escapes. Tics worsen in stressful situations; however they improve when the person is relaxed or absorbed in an activity. In most cases tics decrease markedly during sleep.
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: motorollin on December 03, 2007, 08:30:01 PM
Quote
amiga92570 wrote:
I wonder if Tourette's affects your writing as well as speach?  :-?

It doesn't.

[EDIT]
In fact, Tourette Syndrome is characterised by at least one "vocal tic" which is very often a non-speech sound. The exclamation of obscenities (coprolalia) is actually less often associated with Tourette Syndrome. The Tourette sufferer who goes around shouting obscenities is a stereotype.
[/EDIT]

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moto
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: WotTheFook on December 03, 2007, 08:30:48 PM
Dunno about Tourette's, but the guy has verbal diarrhea and a serious anger problem, can't anyone ask him a question without him going off the deep end?

Oh, and I wonder why no Paypal, have they banned him for having too many disputes?

No wonder he doesn't ship to the UK, Trading Standards would love to jump all over this guys nuts, has he ever sent anything out that was exactly as described?

WTF
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: r6stu on December 06, 2007, 01:43:31 AM
That was me asking about the stand lol! I also asked of the sony cdrom defo worked with the A1200, and if not could I return it!

Didnt hear about that!
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: spihunter on December 06, 2007, 02:12:11 AM
The softer, more touching side of Doomy.

LOL Doomy Auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320189206683&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_RCRX_Pr3_PcY_BIN_IT&refitem=320170829834&itemcount=3&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&usedrule1=CrossSell_LogicX&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget)

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: LoadWB on December 06, 2007, 03:45:40 AM
Good thing he doesn't play the stock market, because that Amiga that he KNOWS is worth $500 didn't sell for that much.  I haven't checked, but I wonder if it will sell for the $399 or whatever he's asking for it.

I wonder how much not accepting PayPal hurts his sales.
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: motorollin on December 06, 2007, 07:39:05 AM
I think things like this hurt his sales a lot more:

Q:    Does it incl the CDROM?   Oct-18-07
A:    Did you actually read the auction description? Did you even read the auction title? It states: Atari 1040STe with 4 megabytes of RAM, TOS 2.05, and a High-Density disk drive. Nowhere in the auction does it say that the monitor, hard disk drive, or CD-Rom drive is included.

What a charmer :roll: I would never buy from someone as obnoxious as that, even if I didn't ask that particular question.

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moto
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: TheMud on December 06, 2007, 07:51:53 AM
Why i would never buy from him...:

1. Winner agree to pay shipment - That's ok... But NOWHERE on the auctions says how much the man want's for it...

2. Please allow 10$ for handling :crazy: ... Normally I wouldnt even pay that much for shipment and handling togehter :-)

3. His answers on Q's

4. I read this Forum

5. Everything he sells is "Extremly Rare" ... "Better Than Beuatiful" and he always "Washed his hands before using it" ...

6. And -> "The artist who designed this died last year so its probaly going to raise in Value" ... WTF :-o

7. The way you can pay him  ... :crazy:

8. Please allow 6-8 weeks delivery ? :-o  ... NOWAY !

9. You come up with something people !

10. Again - My IQ is over 20  :lol:    
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: McVenco on December 06, 2007, 10:08:06 AM
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Doomy wrote:

I am on eBay every day and I watch and keep a record of what Amiga and Atari ST items sell for.  Anotherwards, I do my homework before I list an item.  What makes my Amiga 4000 worth at least $500 is its new condition.  If I still had the original box for it, the computer would sell for over $1000.00.  It is the condition of an item that drives its value up.  So, the closer an item is to new condition, the more valuable it is.  And this is what you NOOBS seem to forget.  Or are you just one of those assholes that try to get nice things for nothing.


I don't know which version of Ebay Doomy visits, but I've bought a completely white A4000 with some expansions (genlock, framegrabber) for $275 a few months ago on. The seller stated it as worldwide shipping, so Doomy should have been able to see it on US Ebay. There have been a few A4000s on Ebay from another Dutch seller, who sold them fo €350 (around $480). These machines came better expanded than Doomy's A4000 (3.1 roms, multiple GB harddisk, workbench disks, HD drives, DVD drive), and still he had to re-list them a few times before they even were sold.

@Doomy: get your figures straight. It's the market (multiple buyers and sellers) that defines the prices of goods, not just a single seller. And the market has declared a lot of times that a stock (and probably partially undressed) A4000, is NOT worth AT LEAST 500 bucks. It may get $500 MAXIMUM (not minimum). And an extra $500 for the original box? No way José.

But then again, Doomy is schooled in mechanics. Not economics :-)
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: arnljot on December 06, 2007, 10:29:31 AM
Quote
Doomy wrote:
What makes my Amiga 4000 worth at least $500 is its new condition.  If I still had the original box for it, the computer would sell for over $1000.00.


Wow, a cardboard box adds $500 value... What kind of card board is more worth than a csppc??  :lol:
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: tokyoracer on December 06, 2007, 03:34:32 PM
Maybe it's alliend in gold. :lol: Or even has an inbuilt accelerater somewhere in the box. :crazy: Madness...

I sure hope he doesnt stop selling as I could do with the laughs.
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: Ken86Stang on December 14, 2007, 10:35:08 PM
Interesting...  I noticed hgcsales is no longer a registered user on ebay..  We'll have to see what new account he pops up under.
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: TjLaZer on December 14, 2007, 10:47:26 PM
Quote
I think things like this hurt his sales a lot more:

Q: Does it incl the CDROM? Oct-18-07
A: Did you actually read the auction description? Did you even read the auction title? It states: Atari 1040STe with 4 megabytes of RAM, TOS 2.05, and a High-Density disk drive. Nowhere in the auction does it say that the monitor, hard disk drive, or CD-Rom drive is included.


Well you gotta get a little tried of the dumb questions some people ask.  This one takes the cake too.  A CD-ROM drive on a Atari STE?  They never came with one, and the only way you can add one is to buy an extremely expensive and rare SCSI host adaptor (ICD's the Link 2 or similar product, $100+ value) and external CD-ROM drive.  Plus there was no pic or anything mentioned about a CD-ROM...  But he should of tactfully replied with my above points instead of the way he did...

Also as far as the $500 A4000, I think that with a nice box it is worth that much, especially if it is in mint shape...

Stand alone dirty, yellowed A4000's go for $250+ easy on the bay....  :rtfm:
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: gdanko on December 14, 2007, 11:41:53 PM
Did anyone see the HGC Sale photo?
It's Doomy! (http://i9.ebayimg.com/02/u/000/77/5f/eeb8_7.JPG)
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: Homer on December 15, 2007, 12:00:42 AM
Ranting is not a regular thing for me but here goes; I would like to know:

1. Why this thread has not disappeared when similar ones have ?
2. Why the thread earlier today covering a guy that appeared to have been ripped off by Doomy for $450, but who then rescinded the whole thread was deleted from A.Org ? {Whatever happened to FREE SPEECH ?}
3. Why I get no information on why a thread has been moderated into oblivion ? (I wouldn't be asking these dumb questions if someone had explained the legal ramifications to me).

As I stated in the missing thread, new people keep coming forward having been ripped off by known people, and they say "If only I knew". What do we do to stamp it out ? We delete these threads just in case it upsets the "known people". Guess what ? More newbies get ripped off.

As we say in the UK, a spade is a spade.




Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: buzz on December 15, 2007, 02:49:00 AM
Quote

Well you gotta get a little tried of the dumb questions some people ask.  This one takes the cake too.  A CD-ROM drive on a Atari STE?  They never came with one, and the only way you can add one is to buy an extremely expensive and rare SCSI host adaptor (ICD's the Link 2 or similar product, $100+ value) and external CD-ROM drive.  Plus there was no pic or anything mentioned about a CD-ROM...  But he should of tactfully replied with my above points instead of the way he did...


I don't think it was a dumb question. The picture (yes there is one) clearly shows a cdrom drive. Also this seller has the habit of "not mentioning" stuff, but showing extra stuff in the photos, so it is quite normal to ask.
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: Ken86Stang on December 15, 2007, 03:39:35 AM
Quote

Homer wrote:
Ranting is not a regular thing for me but here goes; I would like to know:

1. Why this thread has not disappeared when similar ones have ?
2. Why the thread earlier today covering a guy that appeared to have been ripped off by Doomy for $450, but who then rescinded the whole thread was deleted from A.Org ? {Whatever happened to FREE SPEECH ?}
3. Why I get no information on why a thread has been moderated into oblivion ? (I wouldn't be asking these dumb questions if someone had explained the legal ramifications to me).


As I stated in the missing thread, new people keep coming forward having been ripped off by known people, and they say "If only I knew". What do we do to stamp it out ? We delete these threads just in case it upsets the "known people". Guess what ? More newbies get ripped off.

As we say in the UK, a spade is a spade.






Was wondering the same things myself.  When posts like the one that was on here earlier today about the guy that got ripped off get deleted and hgcsales deletes their ebay account, people get ripped off.  

I may be kinda new here but I've been "lurking" for quite a while, so I know what's going on with this guy.  I feel sorry for anyone who does business with him.  
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: amiga92570 on December 15, 2007, 03:53:19 AM
Much like the Terminator, He'll be Back! :-o
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: Methuselas on December 15, 2007, 05:14:29 AM
Hi Arikel,
 
dan08 is lying about me.  Yes, he did email me wanting to buy my Amiga 4000, but, I never emailed him back.  I decided to just keep my Amiga 4000.  I do not know why that jerk is spreading lies about me.  I just picked up a whole van load full of Amiga stuff.  In all of that stuff there was a Cybervision 64/3D graphics card and a CyberStorm MKII 68060 board.  I plan to install these boards into my Amiga 4000.  Please, show this email to the Amiga Org members and you can come pick up an Amiga item from me for free.  Since you do live close to me, why not come visit the RetroGeek Computers shop.  Anyway, I will be going to the Beaverton Police Department tomorrow, to find out what kind of lies this guy told them.  I have not ripped anyone off, and I have the shipping receipts to prove it.
 
Last year, about this time, there were an average of 29 to 34 pages of Amiga auctions on eBay every day.  Now, there are only about 6 to 7 pages of Amiga auctions on eBay at any given time.  This is because jerks, like the people who are spreading lies about me, have pissed off many of the eBay sellers that were selling Amiga items.  People that spread lies about eBay sellers that sell Amiga stuff are doing a disservice to the Amiga community.  They are cutting their own throat.  I do a lot for the Amiga community, and I never get any thanks for it.
 
Doomy



Doomy sent this to me, in response to the previous thread about the guy on here who got the A4000 from him....


I wonder now, since I posted it, if he'll give me the A4000.   :roll:
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: TjLaZer on December 15, 2007, 05:14:32 AM
OK I did not see the one that had the pic of the CD-ROM, so that was a valid question.  It is best to not include items that are not for sale, and if you must, say they are not included...
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: Jeff on December 15, 2007, 05:59:01 AM
No Longer a registered user.
hgcsales on ebay (http://myworld.ebay.com/hgcsales/)
Gone the way of Boogiegail? One could only hope.
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: countzero on December 15, 2007, 07:18:51 AM
why did that thread got deleted ? doomy says he didn't ship any a4000. now it's dan08's turn to prove his claims. If he has the a4000, post it's pictures, and the shipping slip that proves doomy has posted it.
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: Methuselas on December 15, 2007, 07:21:57 AM
Your guess is as good as mine, CZ. I wasn't going to bother to post it, when I found the thread was gone.
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: TheMud on December 15, 2007, 09:36:08 AM
Quote

Methuselas wrote:
Hi Arikel,
 
I have not ripped anyone off, and I have the shipping receipts to prove it.
 
They are cutting their own throat.  I do a lot for the Amiga community, and I never get any thanks for it.
 
Doomy



Say what ???  :lol:     :roll:     :crazy:
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: TheMud on December 15, 2007, 09:40:13 AM
Just read under Hgcsales, that he bought some Atari things... Wonder wenn they will pop up on eBay, with "Rare, Brandnew, More than mint" and with the ridicoulus $12 extra handling fee, plus postal, plus plus ...   :lol:  :roll:
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: LoadWB on December 15, 2007, 02:21:16 PM
I said it in the deleted thread, and I'll say it here.

Anyone who feels they got ripped off by Doomy/HGC/whothefrakever, file a small claims suit.  Have a solid case and you can win a judgment against him.  Spend an hour with a lawyer to make sure you have everything straight.  You'll probably front a couple of hundred dollars or so, but you can get all that back in your mediation settlement or judgment.

Might be a moot point now that his eBay account is gone... unless he pops back up again, who knows.
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: LoadWB on December 15, 2007, 02:55:19 PM
Quote
Methuselas wrote:
Hi Arikel,
 
dan08 is lying about me.  Yes, he did email me wanting to buy my Amiga 4000, but, I never emailed him back.  I decided to just keep my Amiga 4000.  I do not know why that jerk is spreading lies about me.  I just picked up a whole van load full of Amiga stuff.  In all of that stuff there was a Cybervision 64/3D graphics card and a CyberStorm MKII 68060 board.  I plan to install these boards into my Amiga 4000.


Interesting.  Is he changing his stance on the A4000?  Is this blasphemy before the Great God A2000?

Quote
Last year, about this time, there were an average of 29 to 34 pages of Amiga auctions on eBay every day.  Now, there are only about 6 to 7 pages of Amiga auctions on eBay at any given time.  This is because jerks, like the people who are spreading lies about me, have pissed off many of the eBay sellers that were selling Amiga items.


This is a bold claim, not only historically but speculative as well.  I'd liken this to someone who says "I can't remember a December this hot!" but digging through weather history back 60 years shows that just about every December 11 in Tallahassee was 75 - 85 degrees (that happened to be the day someone made said challenge.)

To be fair, anyone who makes a claim against ANY Amiga seller, be it Doomy or otherwise, should provide evidence to back it up.  For instance, I had nothing but good experiences with Boogiegail, but many other people said otherwise -- I will not say they were lying, just that my experience is otherwise.

Pretty much all I recall seeing about Doomy is his outrageous and difficult to swallow claims of product quality (I know OCDs that don't wash their hands before using a computer, but we'll never truly know) and his abusive emails to customers and potential customers.  Frankly, those are enough to push someone like me away from dealing with him, aside from the fact that he won't accept a convenient and protective form of payment.
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: doctorq on December 15, 2007, 03:14:20 PM
Quote

To be fair, anyone who makes a claim against ANY Amiga seller, be it Doomy or otherwise, should provide evidence to back it up.


Well said, but my opinion is that this rule should not only be towards Amiga sellers, but towards any buyers and sellers around the globe.
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: TjLaZer on December 15, 2007, 05:36:35 PM
Well here (http://cgi.ebay.com/Atari-1040-STE-Computer-w-4Megs-RAM-1040STE_W0QQitemZ130181818029QQihZ003QQcategoryZ82631QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) is a lone 1040STE for $128 so far... But the pic is exactly what Doomy should use if he does it again, will help eliminate all the naggy replies...

And I don't blame him, for $500 I would rather keep a lowly mint A4000 computer in the box than try to sell if for less...  
 :crazy:
Title: no trolls allowed
Post by: weirdami on December 15, 2007, 07:18:25 PM
@Homer

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2. Why the thread earlier today covering a guy that appeared to have been ripped off by Doomy for $450, but who then rescinded the whole thread was deleted from A.Org ? {Whatever happened to FREE SPEECH ?}



My guess is that he deleted all traces of what the original post was about so Wayne decided to delete yet another thread about what's his face.

I'm starting to wonder, with all these new people coming on and their first post being about what's his face (and perhaps no posts further), if the new people posting those posts are just what's his face trolling with multiple accounts... again.
Title: Re: no trolls allowed
Post by: Ken86Stang on December 15, 2007, 07:29:47 PM
Quote

weirdami wrote:
@Homer

Quote
2. Why the thread earlier today covering a guy that appeared to have been ripped off by Doomy for $450, but who then rescinded the whole thread was deleted from A.Org ? {Whatever happened to FREE SPEECH ?}



My guess is that he deleted all traces of what the original post was about so Wayne decided to delete yet another thread about what's his face.

I'm starting to wonder, with all these new people coming on and their first post being about what's his face (and perhaps no posts further), if the new people posting those posts are just what's his face trolling with multiple accounts... again.


Maybe, but why bother to edit it like he did before it was deleted?
Title: Re: no trolls allowed
Post by: monami on December 15, 2007, 08:15:29 PM
can someone get me an address i'm going to send him a card with merry xmas on it!  :lol:
Title: Re: no trolls allowed
Post by: TjLaZer on December 15, 2007, 08:23:46 PM
Who did he rip off for $450?
Title: Re: no trolls allowed
Post by: dan08 on December 15, 2007, 09:47:10 PM
Me.

After I posted the message, I received some very nasty E-Mails, that was why took the message back.  When people start to defend his seller, remember why he is not here.  What is most scary is, he is here, he got his point across earlier in the thread.  I am not going to mess this this fellow.  Not at all.
Title: Re: no trolls allowed
Post by: motorollin on December 15, 2007, 09:58:33 PM
Sounds to me like he has threatened you in to silence. You should take his emails to the police. Don't let him scare you in to putting up with this!

--
moto
Title: This man needs our help !
Post by: Homer on December 15, 2007, 11:03:43 PM
dan08,

If you can prove what you said in the other thread, then you should at least try to get your money back by using legal means. Get some legal advice. If he has threatened you, then the Police need to know. You are NOT on your own.

Hmm, reading between the lines of your last message, are you saying you also received threatening emails from OTHER people after you posted here ? If so, then you REALLY do need to talk to law enforcement.  
Title: Re: no trolls allowed
Post by: LoadWB on December 15, 2007, 11:21:03 PM
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dan08 wrote:
Me.

After I posted the message, I received some very nasty E-Mails, that was why took the message back.  When people start to defend his seller, remember why he is not here.  What is most scary is, he is here, he got his point across earlier in the thread.  I am not going to mess this this fellow.  Not at all.


So if this is real at all, you man up and fight to get your money back, at the same time making him think twice about future scams.  Or you pussy out and just shut up.  Or you were embellishing from the start.

Which is it?
Title: Re: no trolls allowed
Post by: dan08 on December 15, 2007, 11:30:23 PM
What a turn this took.
Title: 08
Post by: weirdami on December 16, 2007, 12:07:09 AM
@dan08

Will you be changing your handle every time you run for president?
Title: Re: 08
Post by: dan08 on December 16, 2007, 12:37:59 AM
Try and show some respect.
Title: Re: 08
Post by: amiga92570 on December 16, 2007, 12:42:31 AM
Maybe its all doomy! Just to get some attention. I dealt with this idiot before. I know he is a bulling lying Pr**K. Tried to get on me after he purchased some processors from me. I told him I only accept Paypal, he replied with numerous emails stating I should have stated that and he would send a money order. I told him to learn to read as I had clearly stated in red blinking letters at bottom of ad Paypal Only!!!. Well he threatened and I explained what a useless waste of matter he is and he finally vanished. I do not see how he could threaten someone seriously. Tell him to piss off, and if he ripped you off, go to the police. Its theft you know.
Title: Re: 08
Post by: weirdami on December 16, 2007, 02:18:54 AM
Quote

dan08 wrote:
Try and show some respect.


 :bow:
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: save2600 on December 16, 2007, 03:47:20 AM
This is that jerk 'Doomy' I've read about for years?!? I accidentally bought a
SCSI CD drive from him recently on one of his HGC eBay sales. The day after winning, I went my merry way to K-Mart to get a $.59 money order (the cheapest around) and dispatched his money THAT day. Remember, we're talking about a $12 item here. And in case you are wondering, I don't do GayPal. This was his response after receiving my money:


Dear save2600,


Well, I received your payment today, but I am not happy with it. The auction clearly states that I do not accept Western Union money orders. I will go ahead and accept it this time, but from now on read the entire auction. Also, both the auction and the email that I sent you states that only cash or a postal money order gets same day shipping. On other types of payment, please allow 6 to 8 weeks for processing. I meant just that. So, your package will not be shipped until around January 2008.


- hgcsales


My reply:


Dear hgcsales,


Wow - you are not happy receiving a legitimate money order?
What is wrong with you and who do you think you are talking
to customers like that? I've been an eBay seller for much longer
than you and my feedback trounces yours. I'm sorry I missed
out on ONE of your buying qualifications, but I do not
appreciate being talked to this way. Go ahead and send me my
money back then. I will not wait for you to send out my CD
ROM until next year because you want to play some kind of a
power trip. If you do not comply within a reasonable amount of
time, I will personally call eBay and let them know of your
jerkiness. In the meantime, learn some customer service skills.
It's no wonder none of your items are selling. Especially the
overpriced A4k.


- save2600


...and his reply:


Shoot! Can't find it right now, but he responded even worse! Telling me that if I give him {bleep}, he'll just give it right back. He also bragged that he had other eBay accounts and that he's been doing this for a "long" time. He then proceeded to tell me that he'll ship my CD ROM out AFTER the money order "clears". If any computer geek deserved a punch in the face lately - it would most certainly be him!! Hmm... too bad Oregon is 30 hours away from me. I would just want to pick up my CD ROM is all   ;-)


Update... HGCSALES is no longer a registered user. I smell a dirty, stinkin' rat  here. I wonder if Western Union will give me my money back. That's probably why he did not like that form of payment!

Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: weirdami on December 16, 2007, 04:16:17 AM
@save2600

I always said only USPS money orders on my own auctions because a lot of places don't cash certain money orders and since I'd be going to the post office anyway, a USPS one works best. And, it's a bit safer I think because they check to make sure it's really real before cashing it. Get this, someone sent me a money order from a Safeway grocery store and when I went to a Safeway to cash it, I found out that Safeway doesn't even cash their own money orders! It's that sort of lameness you avoid with USPS money orders.

I always say that all monies must clear before I ship anything, that's only fair. But, that 6-8 week thing looks a lot like punishment. I think it's also unreasonable as far as ebay rules go, right? Ebay seemed to think so I guess. :-) That is, until next time. :-(
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: save2600 on December 16, 2007, 07:13:08 AM
Thanks for an explanation, BUT... I'm sorry, I cannot relate to running your life or a business this way. When you say that "a lot of places" do not cash money orders... umm, why would you not simply take it to your BANK? Safeway?!? Never heard of them. Remember those funny little brick and mortar FDIC institutions where most people keep their money? Yeah, those are the places you should be taking money orders and cashier checks to. If you do not have a bank account in this day and age, well... I guess I would be at a loss for words then  ;-)    Unless of course, you're doing something illegal... then I can see the reason for not wanting a bank account! lol

USPS money orders are expensive as are money orders from your bank. A retail store like K-Mart/Wal-Mart or a gas station has them much cheaper. The K-Mart by me even has a mailbox right outside their front door, making it that much easier get the money right out to the next ungrateful eBay {bleep}.
Title: Re: hgcsales on ebay.....
Post by: Terse on December 16, 2007, 08:11:25 AM
Most of the time I log in to laugh at the latest misfortune of the poor Amiga community and while away the months until forums like these are well and truly taken over by retro enthusiasts like me, instead of kids who were 10 when Amiga was launched and still think the platform will come roaring back to life.  But this guy seems truly sadistic.  He's even creeping me out.  I wonder if the Amiga forums could have a prominent scammer warning with a profile of this and other well-known eBay scammers.

I undersatnd that they can change thier ID at a whim, but it sounds like no matter what the ID, they can't disguise critial details, like accepting only cash,check,M.O.  Adding extra shipping charges.  Answering questions rudely. Over-describing items in odd ways, etc.

I have been lurking here for a year or so and I think I've seen 3 or 4 of these new users come in and say "Hi Amiga community, I think I was just ripped off..."  to which everyone here says "Yeah, that was our old pal Doomy."

If there is anything left of this Amiga "community", it should actively tackle this problem.
Title: jeez freakin louise
Post by: weirdami on December 16, 2007, 08:15:34 AM
@save2600

Well excuse me for participating.
Title: Re: jeez freakin louise
Post by: LoadWB on December 16, 2007, 03:05:49 PM
Part of the problem with "six to eight weeks for shipping" is that you have no recourse with eBay in the event of a problem.  IIRC, they used to only give 30 days, which was BARELY enough time in most situations, but I think they now give 60 days.

I only accept PayPal on my auctions, period.  PayPal is fast and offers buyers protection in more ways than one.  If I as a buyer get screwed on a deal or don't receive the item within a reasonable period of time (you know, pay immediately after winning and no item at 28 days) then I can file a complaint.  I have had my money returned on a few occasions like this.

As a seller, it allows me a method for quick resolution.  Case in point, I sold a BaseBoard that had a missing pin which I didn't notice until the buyer pointed it out to me.  I looked back at the photos I took and, sure enough, there it was plain as day.  I knew the board worked none-the-less, but I felt obligated as this guy was going to have to get that pin repaired to ensure 100% stability.  With PayPal I was able to refund part of his money right away.

Try that with a money order.  I have purchased some items with MOs but only if the seller has a lot of good feedback.  I would use USPS or ones from Publix, depending upon what was convenient for me and if the seller was in the same country (USPS MOs work better for international.)

I agree that the Amiga community should do something against known scammers.  At the same time, I don't like being lumped into the group of resurrectionists: I *was* 10 when the Amiga came out, but I maintain no illusions of the Amiga rising again... unless I hit the MegaMillions jackpot  :crazy:

And I won't contest this: he'll be back with his same attitude, his same payment and shipping requirements, and the same outrageous claims and behavior.  The user name won't make a difference.  People who get ripped off need to realize that leaving him bad feedback won't hurt them even if he retaliates now that eBay has a feedback mediation process.  And if they REALLY think they got ripped off, sue his ass.  The legal system exists for a purpose, so put it to good use.

I'm tired of people who won't stand up to this guy in a way that would injure his ability to buy and sell Amiga.  "If you're not ready to act, give me a break and shut up!"
Title: Re: jeez freakin louise
Post by: AMIBY on December 16, 2007, 03:50:22 PM
>"If you're not ready to act, give me a break and shut up!"
Why don't you buy something from Doomy then? So you can file your own law suits?
Title: Re: jeez freakin louise
Post by: amiga92570 on December 16, 2007, 03:51:33 PM
Just use paypal only and he is out of the equation. He is obviously disturbed. He keeps peoples emails so he can shoot out a email when someone posts the truth about him. I received this email shortly after posting above about a transaction I had with him about a year ago.

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George Cambell wrote:


"I bet you would not say those things to my face.  I would have paid you for the processors, but you were being a jerk about it.  So no, YOU GO FU*K YOURSELF AND PISS OFF, PUNK !  And I would tell you this to your face.  I do not like it when punks like you talk crap about me in a public forum.  You guys need to start picking on someone else.  I have not done anything wrong to anybody, and if you think I have, prove it.  The only thing I am guilty of is talking crap sometimes for a goof.  If you guys want to talk to me, join my Amiga and Atari ST forum.  I can even ask a Beaverton Police Officer to join in on our discussion  of how I ripped some of you off.  This is you chance to get it all out into the open.  But, you better be prepared when going up against the DoomMaster, because I will get in your face with both barrels.  I am usually a nice person, but people starting spreading lies about me and messing with my reputation, I get fighting mad.... "


Now you can keep going back and forth with this fellow, and waste a lot of time or just ignore him. I choose to ignore him as I don't have the time to play games with him. I replied with this message.

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Go ahead , get the police involved. I would love that. You are right about talking crap, but you should should have no problem doing that being the worthless piece of that you are. So go ahead and have the police call me or if you like I can initiate an investigation myself.

 
I guess I should expect the police at my door any moment.
 :lol:
Title: Re: jeez freakin louise
Post by: AMIBY on December 16, 2007, 03:55:08 PM
I am really jealous. Doomy has all these things in perfect condition. But he obtained these items through fraud.
Title: Re: jeez freakin louise
Post by: amiga92570 on December 16, 2007, 03:58:41 PM
Another thing, I have had a lot of fun on this board. I do believe lately however it has become very negative and seems there are too many users with multiple identities. seems its much less fun and informative then it used to be. So I as one will be logging off. Its been fun. Good luck to all of you in the New Year. :-)
Title: Re: jeez freakin louise
Post by: LoadWB on December 16, 2007, 04:04:07 PM
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AMIBY wrote:
>"If you're not ready to act, give me a break and shut up!"
Why don't you buy something from Doomy then? So you can file your own law suits?


That has to be one of the most asinine things I have read in a long time.  Isn't that a lot like walking in front of the bus so I can sue the driver?  Or perhaps a newly-awarded black belt strolling down a dark alley hoping to get mugged?  What would staging my own sting operation really accomplish?

My point is clear: there is a lot of talk from people screwed by Hans, a lot of sabre-rattling, and a lot of puffed out chests over the issue.  Pray tell, how many people with a genuine beef against him have done anything about it?  You can trade childish emails, you can post eloquent rants about him, but unless you actually take advantage of a system which avails itself to protecting people from bad apples like Hans, nothing will change and the rape will continue.

I honestly bet he laughs every time someone cries about what he has done to them, knowing full well there is little chance he will suffer repercussions from his actions.
Title: Re: jeez freakin louise
Post by: LoadWB on December 16, 2007, 04:14:15 PM
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amiga92570 wrote:
Another thing, I have had a lot of fun on this board. I do believe lately however it has become very negative and seems there are too many users with multiple identities. seems its much less fun and informative then it used to be. So I as one will be logging off. Its been fun. Good luck to all of you in the New Year. :-)


I really hate to see someone who has been here as long as I have (at least as a registered user) and just as active leave because of the childishness of other users.  It should be people like us chasing THEM out, not the other way around.  Amiga.org is one of the last bastions of Amigadom, and I am disturbed that there are jack asses out there actively ruining it.  This really applies to the scene as a whole: we lose contributors, developers, and the like because there are a few {bleep}y, whiny ingrates out there.  Just ignore them.  Like most minorities, they will be the most mouthy and at times the loudest voice in the crowd, but they are weak in will and mind and it does not take much to push them out.

I, for one, am the one and only me here.  And those be damned who have to hide behind multiple identities because they are too cowardly to man up and own up to their own words.  These people surely live a trite and despicable existence, and lying to themselves about how cool they are because they pwn3d you in a forum is not going to change their miserable lives.
Title: Re: jeez freakin louise
Post by: Terse on December 16, 2007, 06:30:48 PM
@LoadWB,

I joined about 5 years back and was active and contributing with a well-known account for 2 years before giving up.  It was too dysfunctional here for a rational  or measured interaction.  

I gave the "I'm leaving forever" post in 2004 and left for 2 years. Now I'm back becuse I enjoy watching the dysfunction with no (okay - minimal) participation.   I try not to troll either (though this post could be an exception I suppose.)  

I just note this becuse it may be more common than you think; Amiga users who were once active but who now prefer lurking.  I've never done this with any other BBS or forum in 20 years. In all other cases, I contribute or cleanly break off. I don't see myself as cowardly. Rather, I see Amiga as my personal 24/7 soap opera. Why interact when it stays entertaining all by itself?
Title: Re: jeez freakin louise
Post by: B00tDisk on December 17, 2007, 04:52:45 AM
Well issues of who's who around here aside, doomy's a bona fide psychopath; note that he closed his forums on retrogeek - I reckon he couldn't handle the lack of attention (they were dead, dead, dead - srsly, I have more people using my D&D forum).

Title: Re: jeez freakin louise
Post by: Colin_Camper on December 17, 2007, 01:24:20 PM
@amiga92570

Man, I think you're totally wrong!

This guy is a class act!

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But, you better be prepared when going up against the DoomMaster, because I will get in your face with both barrels. I am usually a nice person, but people starting spreading lies about me and messing with my reputation, I get fighting mad....


I would be thrilled to get an email like this!  :-)
 
Doomy obviously spent a lot of effort on it. It is better than the dialogue on a lot of $100m movies. He is wasted with this 'military A2000' stuff - he should be writing movie scripts and screen plays!  :-D