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Offline Iggy

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Re: Which AROS?
« on: May 09, 2013, 04:50:33 PM »
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Regarding AROS, it's been awhile since I've played with it.  I did try MorphOs, and it's very nice, and running classic software was very seamless and fantastic...BUT running on old hardware doesn't really appeal to me because it seems like a dead end, much like the Amiga was hardware wise (towards the end of days).

I've always like where AROS was going, but it was just not "there" yet.

Is it stable enough these days to be fully installed on the HD and run as a daily use desktop machine?  I would like to write some code again for the Amiga... just as a hobby, but I am hesitant to dual boot it if there is a chance it's going to destroy my partition table and wipe out osx, windows, etc.

I realize it's not as finished as MorphOs, but it is open source and it runs on modern hardware so I think it has a better longterm outlook.


I periodically set up an AROS system.
For awhile I even kept a system dedicated to it (but have recently sold the 7600GT video card I kept for that  purpose).
I am convinced that AROS will indeed "get there" on day.

MorphOS is already there, in fact its the most "there" of any of the NG OS'.
And yes, the hardware is not new.
Frank Mariak (Pega-1) has explored a port for the SAM460, but even though new, this PPC system would be slower than our current systems.

So I'll keep my G4 Macs, wait for G5 MorphOS support, and periodically check out AROS.
AROS has some serious potential (especially with ported OpenGL based programs).
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Re: Which AROS?
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2013, 06:16:41 PM »
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If I had a powerPC kit laying around I'd definitely give MorphOS a go.  Its a lot easier to explore AROS when finding an old PC for free is as simple as hopping on craigslist :D  Or you happen to have one left over lying around.

I bet eventually MorphOS will end up on ARM or Intel and then I'm sure I'll find the money to pony up.

Oh, and Nicholas, I'd love any documentation you could kick my way!

Do you think you could find something cheaper then this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-Power-Mac-G4-Desktop-AS-IS-Z-1-POWERS-ON-STICKS-AT-STARTUP-/400465563636?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&nma=true&si=1hdIrfxrzguDhm98wUJLby7%252FNck%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

I took a chance on it, and as it turned out it only needed an OS install.

I had to add a Radeon 9000 (an extra $11.50).

$51.49 total or an MDD. And it contained three hard drives.
I left the 250 GB installed and partitioned it for OSX and MorphOS use.
The other two, a 120GB and a 40GB, I took out to install in a Quicksilver.

;) Every AROS system I have set up cost me more.

Of course there is that $111 charge for a MorphOS key.

But if we are talking about just experimenting, the 30 minute limit should be adequate.

MorphOS may eventually move to another ISA (where it will continue to kick ass), but I like the hardware we are using now. It is the cheapest way to get a fast, well designed, PPC system.

BTW - If anyone wants to put together a cheap MorphOS system, PM me.
« Last Edit: May 09, 2013, 06:35:35 PM by Iggy »
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Re: Which AROS?
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2013, 06:46:12 PM »
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My b&w g3 costs 20€ and runs AROS ... so it is cheaper.
with the g4 ZIF upgrade it isn't always a snug..


Good point!
I forgot about PPC AROS.

Then again, you paid for a G3?
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Re: Which AROS?
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2013, 07:44:13 PM »
Quote from: phoenixkonsole;734271
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Yes. I tend to buy stuff which impressed me at times where I couldn't afford them.
The later generations didn't impress me as the b&w did.
Same is true for some cars...


Yeah, I can dig that.
I still like the blueberry colored hardware I've still got an Epson printer that color that I use under MorphOS.
And I'd like to own an 81 Bertone X1/9.
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Re: Which AROS?
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2013, 07:46:06 PM »
duplicate post.
my bad.
« Last Edit: May 10, 2013, 01:33:56 PM by Iggy »
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Re: Which AROS?
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2013, 08:26:03 PM »
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Wait so is there a version of AROS that will run on my old iMac G3 and iMac G4? Blueberry :D


...hosted under PPC linux, yes

http://aros.sourceforge.net/introduction/ports.php#aros-linux-ppc.
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