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Title: fast enough?
Post by: amiga4001 on December 13, 2010, 09:25:24 PM
I am using an old laptop with a pentium3 on 733MHz.
It is running puppylinux and euae 0.8.29 wip 4 but it seems just not fast enough to emulate an amigamachine which will run whdload and for example apidyia.
It runs the workbench quite well but with whdload it is just underpowered?
I tried ECS chipset,8 bit sound 68010 processor but that all doesn't influence the perfor mance.
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Title: Re: fast enough?
Post by: kickstart on December 13, 2010, 09:34:20 PM
Try with a little windows xp installation (tinyxp...) and winuae.
Title: Re: fast enough?
Post by: amigadave on December 13, 2010, 09:40:07 PM
Quote from: kickstart;598500
Try with a little windows xp installation (tinyxp...) and winuae.

I agree that you should switch to the smallest Windows install that you can get to run WinUAE instead of EUAE.  To my knowledge EUAE still does not have JIT like WinUAE does and that will help you a lot in running on slower, old x86 hardware.  I used to run WinUAE on a 533MHz Celeron laptop, but admit I was not running WHDLoad on it at that time.
Title: Re: fast enough?
Post by: Ral-Clan on December 13, 2010, 09:44:17 PM
Also make sure you are using Picasso96 RTG software and the UAE graphics driver.  This really speeds things up (I don't know if this comes with the Linux version of UAE).
Title: Re: fast enough?
Post by: SamuraiCrow on December 13, 2010, 09:51:04 PM
EUAE DOES have a JIT.  It only works on the x86 version though.

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Also, P96 modes do not help games at all.  Very few actually use the Graphics card emulation anyway.
Title: Re: fast enough?
Post by: Crumb on December 13, 2010, 10:31:50 PM
Quote from: amiga4001;598499
I am using an old laptop with a pentium3 on 733MHz.
It is running puppylinux and euae 0.8.29 wip 4 but it seems just not fast enough to emulate an amigamachine which will run whdload and for example apidyia.
It runs the workbench quite well but with whdload it is just underpowered?
I tried ECS chipset,8 bit sound 68010 processor but that all doesn't influence the perfor mance.
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WinFellow or WinUAE should be able to run A500 games smoothly. In the worst case you can decrease resolution to 320x240 and 16bits.
Title: Re: fast enough?
Post by: fishy_fiz on December 14, 2010, 04:41:22 AM
P96 helps in a huge way for pretty much everything but games using the custom chipset, not just because RTG is miles faster than the custom chipset, but because it uses considerably less resources to emulate it (chipset timing is the killer for slower machines,.... the actual custom chipsets themselves use a tiny fraction of available resources), so while it wont help with games like apidya, its absolutely worth the effort if youre going to be using something like whdload (ergo need an amiga os setup). Not just that, but there's lots of good games that utilise RTG + ahi (quake, quake2, genetic species, myst, earth 2140, napalm, nemac IV, alien breed3d 2 (via patch),doom, heretic, hexen, wolenstien, oneescapee, descent, descenet freespace, duke3d, etc, etc...... most good games that were released in the last 10 years or so).
If you really only want to play all the old floppy based games (even via whdload) then Winfellow might be a better option though as it's significantly faster on old machines than even Winuae.
Title: Re: fast enough?
Post by: stefcep2 on December 14, 2010, 05:06:00 AM
try an older version of winuae eg 1.4 or 1.5

it seems most winuae updates get slower on the same hw, but i understand compatibility is the aim, and not speed.
Title: Re: fast enough?
Post by: runequester on December 14, 2010, 05:22:24 AM
How much RAM do you have in the machine?

Im not sure what benefit winuae would have. The OS will eat far more RAM than puppy does, leaving less for the emulation, and e-uae has jit as well.
Title: Re: fast enough?
Post by: amiga4001 on December 14, 2010, 06:36:21 AM
It has 256 MB off ram.
Hate it to leave puppylinux xp is a bit too demanding for this little machine.
I can browse the internet quite nice now with puppy and opera/firefox.
But guess it is the only way too play those nice old retrogames.
How can I setup a minimal setup off xp?
I only now off the normal install.
Title: Re: fast enough?
Post by: fishy_fiz on December 14, 2010, 06:44:16 AM
Try Nlite. Great little program that lets you strip WinXP back as much as you like and/or add extra drivers, service packs, etc. Alternatively you could look for something like TinyXP, or MicroXP (microXP is significantly smaller though) to download online.
It's quite a useful little program and I've run a customised XP (with sp3) (83 meg in total) on a 233mhz p2 with 64 meg quite nicely because of it.
Title: Re: fast enough?
Post by: SamuraiCrow on December 14, 2010, 09:17:53 PM
If you still want to use Linux, try using PUAE instead of EUAE.  It is a much more up-to-date version of UAE than EUAE and backports many features of WinUAE to Linux.
Title: Re: fast enough?
Post by: amiga4001 on December 16, 2010, 09:50:43 PM
I downloaded and extracted puae but where is the starticon?
Title: Re: fast enough?
Post by: Gulliver on December 16, 2010, 09:59:31 PM
You can use with that setup:

a modded Windows XP + WinUAE. I recommend MicroXP 0.8x
or replace puppylinux with slitaz, which is a faster/slimmer linux distro.