Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini

[Iggy]

Hi,

@haywirepc,

I agree with you, PPC IS DEAD, even rotten core Mac computing company came down to that decision.
smerf

I didn't know they had any say in what other companies produced.

What you have to remember is that their are some people on Amiga.org that aren't exactly high tech. If it was up to them the 6502 or the Z80 would still be running their computers.
smerf

Actually, that would be the Motorola 68K family, some of which are still available. Amiga users don't have much use for processors that were never in their machines in the first place.
(An interesting fact - Radisys just introduced an update to OS9 for the 68K last year - its still being used)

I agree with you, and I don't care how bad they flame me. If they would have gone either AMD or Intel back in 95 we wouldn't have this problem today.
smerf

No ones going to flame you (that's your job), but I'd rather just use Windows or OSX (since AROS doesn't even support SMP)

Quit playing around with old junk arcahiac soon to be obsolete CPU's, just develope an operating system for the average PC.  That is why I am believing in AROS rather than MorphOS.
smerf

I didn't know we were talking about belief systems!
Did you clap for Tinkerbell when you saw Peter Pan?

I just want an OS I can use, AROS isn't out of beta stage yet.

[Iggy]

That's all very lovely, but I don't see how it makes PPC "archaic" when it's a solid thirteen years younger than x86...

Don't forget, their other favorite is ARM and  that died on the desktop even longer ago (Does anyone even remember Acorn?).

[Iggy]

I don't have to pay $3000, I paid $10 for a Power Mac G4 at the recycle center that exceeds that Mini

Aw man, I paid $7 more then you!
What a rip!

[Iggy]

Yo! Haywire, Smerf ...I already HAVE an X86 PC and I'm not going to waste three out of four cores running AROS.

[Iggy]

Then you should avoid MorphOS too because there is no multicore support. Or am I wrong? :-)

My Mac only has one single core processor.

And I did start putting together the parts for a dedicated AROS system a few weeks ago.
I have a low wattage single core Athlon 64 for that.
I'm just not wasting the processing power of my Phenom X4 on an Amigoid OS.

BTW - What is "gratulate"?

[Iggy]

AROS 68k looks like its coming along great. THANK you guys for all your hard work. What will the amiga inc. and amiga forever grave robbers do now?

But Steven, the 68K is far more DEAD then PPC processors.
I thought you weren't in favor of using obsolete product.

[Iggy]

Exactly, Hyperion did not make a statement about the legality of AROS an sich but on the usage of it by an Amiga trademark licensor to use it as OS on their Amiga branded computers.

greets,
Staf.

Again, I don't remember that, just the stipulation that Amiga Inc. could not develop an AmigaOS like product.

[Iggy]

Don't know how you interpret this statement from Ben Hermans?
Don't find a reference to the settlement documents anymore but if I remember well it handled about the use of the Amiga trademark and was not only valid for Amiga Inc.

greets,
Staf.

Sorry Staf, All I see is "Hyperionmp".
That could be anyone.
There's no way to confirm it as actually being Ben.
Although Ben has a past history of making rash, unsupportable comments about others.

Lets just say it sounds like Hermans, but it doesn't mean that his opinion is a realistic representation of the actual rights of Hyperion.

[Iggy]

x86 beats PPC hands down for performance, but it's not the only one that does.  Frankly, the endian issue makes x86 and ARM unattractive for running the old software.  Where will new software come from?

I'm watching the Apollo core (formerly N68070) from the NatAmi team.  Its opcode fusion feature will allow old software to gain new performance without recompiling at all.

Let me get this straight. X86 is more powerful then PPC so you choose 68K?
Oh, now we're going down the rabbit hole!

[Iggy]

Sure, I may not be Staf, you may not be Iggy and Hyperionmp may not be Ben.
Staf.

You're probably right Staf. Sounds like Ben, smells like Ben.
Good thing we didn't step in it. :roflmao:

And he does like litigation.

[Iggy]

i7 isn't going to get you much over a single-core CPU, though, when the OS can't do SMP - not unless you figure out a way to efficiently parallelize emulation of a single CPU across multiple cores.

Yes, this is a good point,
When I built an AROS system I used a single core Athlon 64 and overclocked it.