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Offline leirbag28

Re: Why was Putty Squad cancelled in Amiga format?
« on: July 21, 2004, 08:03:24 PM »
 What on earth are you people talking about? the game was indeed released as I have the FULL game right here with the box and all, including instructions.
 I also have Putty the first one, which I find kind of sluggish and boring compared to Putty Squad.

 I am going to be Posting it on ebay soon if anyone is interested?




Edit:  Haha fooled ya! don't you wish! I actually DO NOT have such game, but I do have the CD32 version of Putty and the PUTTY SQUAD Demo wich is quite neat.........shame about the tiny screen though...........I really hated when they didnt do games in Overscan like ALL the normal Console games.
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Offline leirbag28

Re: Why was Putty Squad cancelled in Amiga format?
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2004, 01:31:09 AM »
 I think You are wrong on that........approx. 98% of Console games that I have seen are NTSC overscan.......probably 352 x 240..........I live here in USA and I have seen almost all consoles under the sun. NTSC is a great format and  IMHO better than PAL, because of less flickering and faster frame rate.

Putty may be am exception because System 3 were too lazy to improve the game and make it a larger screen size.

Take a look at Gods, for the SNES.........what a disaster............they basically slapped the Amiga version on there and speeded things up, which make it look funny.........and added a nice intro.
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Offline leirbag28

Re: Why was Putty Squad cancelled in Amiga format?
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2004, 04:29:39 PM »
@AmiVeteran

 The thing is that when you disply NTSC in your country, it probably doesnt look the same as when someone is viewing it here in 60Hz on an NTSC TV, the same goes for us when we use PAL, it basically looks horrible andd flickers like crazy, and the colors get distorted even on an RGB monitor.......so thats not really a good way of telling. Philip makes special TV's here in the USA that disply both NTSC an PAL...they even Auto adjust when displaying PAL and shrink the image to fit the screen and display all the lines. I suspect that the PHILIPS RGB monitors that they made for Amiga over there in UK probably do the same exept they expand for NTSC...............I suspect it because I have a MAGNOVOX (Same as PHILIPS in UK) that is the American Version of that PHILIPS CM888K or whatever that monitor is called...its a neat monitor and is better than the 1084s...............so try using NTSC on those monitors as that may be a good way of telling what NTSC looks like here in USA, unless the colors get distorted, then its not.

 Th reason MegaDrive games were not Overscan is probably because they were ported from NTSC versions............Video Games companies Prioritize the USA and JAPAN for creating Video games, so other countries get leftovers I suspect.

 As far as I see it, all PAL is the same as NTSC but with more lines to fill the black borders for PAL countries and runs at 50hz which will flicker more because when in interlace mode, since its a slower hz you will see the 2 fields of an interlaced screen flashing more because its slower............on NTSC I suspect they flash faster between the 2 fields and the flickering is less noticable.

 Oh one question I wanted to ask you............you said something about running PAL in 60Hz?  how do you do that?  and can NTSC also be rn in 50hz as oppsoed to 60hz?  Degrader seems to allow for this but it never works for me............the reason I ask is because I want to run PAL games in NTSC mode or actually run PAL in 60Hz so that maybe a game like Ruff N Tumble may work in USA TV's (currently it doesnt even with WHDLoad)  There is a game called OUTFALL that ddoes this wonderfull trick of switching from PAL to NTSC without the speed of the music changing, or without the image shifting or shrinking........Absolutely amazing! I want to be able to do this with every game that is PAL, so that I can play them on huge American TV's

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Offline leirbag28

Re: Why was Putty Squad cancelled in Amiga format?
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2004, 06:54:20 PM »
@x56h34
"Try and watch this on a standard NTSC TV and you'll get a black and white picture"

This is not true actually, it may ho;d true with other imported electronic devices but I have never seen this problem with the CD32. I mostly use TV's with my Amigas..........in PAL mode i the TV Does Not support it, what happens is that the Vertical hold on the TV starts flipping, but its stuill in color.............if your tv has a Vertical hold control, you can make it display PAL. since Monitors for Commodore were made by PHILIPS, they support PAL as well.

As for any True NTSC CD32 games...........I have quite a few..I make it a goal to collect ALL NTSC games if possible. Defender of The Crown 2 for one, is NTSC, there was supposed to be an NTSC version of Video Creator (wich I want badly) Liberation Captive 2 is NTSC and Insight Technology (there is also a PAL version)
other games I have that are CD32 NTSC:

Rise of The Robots
Simon The Sorceror (cant confirm this at the moment)
The Chaos Engine
CD32 Sports Football
MicroCosm
Pinball Fantasies/ SleepWalker
and some others.

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Offline leirbag28

Re: Why was Putty Squad cancelled in Amiga format?
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2004, 03:01:02 PM »
 I have never gotten a Black and white image on a TV when in PAL mode, NTSC mode, All the Amiga Games that I have that are PAL are in color on a standartd TV, the only thing like I said is that the image rolls, which you can adjust if your TV has V-HOLD (usually only old TV's have this)

The only Time I have seen a Black and White image from PAL is when I buy one of those portable VideoCD Players in ChinaTown here in NYC. When you play a VideoCD that was meant for PAL (China is PAL) then the CD plays in Black and white on an American TV..........BUT, when I play that same VideoCD on my CD32/FMV..........both in PAL and NTSC, they both play in color!  so conclusion?  the Amiga displays True PAL even here on American TV's I suppose, unless True PAL is black and White :-)

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Offline leirbag28

Re: Why was Putty Squad cancelled in Amiga format?
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2004, 06:00:38 PM »
@x56h34

How can you possibly prove me wrong, when I am telling you I have seen it with my own eyes? hehe

 Really, I have a Full Motion Video Cartridge for my CD32, and I always buy PAL VideoCD's from China Town..as you may be aware, China uses PAL...........so what happens when I play them on my CD32 is that the image is stretched (playing it without setting it for PAL)   then when I set it for PAL, it plays at 50hz in full color on an American TV, and any TV that I have tried for the past 10 or 11 years that I have owned this card.

 Also the Game ZOOL CD32 is absolutely PAL, I have never seen an NTSC version....and of course when I run this game, it runs in Color. the reasson I know is because the game will not boot at all in NTSC mode on a CD32...............you have to  force it to PAL......and when I do, it runs in Color. :-)

Maybe the Amiga Fakes it? I don't know..............but one thing I know for sure, is that my CD32 is running in a different mode that is definitely NOT NTSC when I set it to PAL. But yet its in color and the image is stretched............people look elongated in movies......probably because PAL has more lines.  I also have a special monitor made by PHILIPS, that fits the whole PAL image into an NTSC sized screen so that you dont miss anything.............many TV's made by Philips also have this feature.

Also must note........that there is a Projector I have tested made by SHARP, that says it supports PAL, but when I connect an Amiga and select PAL ( I do this by holding both mouse buttons down at startup, and then just tapping a key, which sets it to PAL) The image is distorted and in black and white............yet the projector says it supports PAL..............I then tried this on a Sony Projector in the same store which also supports PAL, and it worked fine and in Full color..............................My conclusion.........the SHARP has fake PAL, or real PAL is in Black and white, and the Sony Projector fakes it as well as my Amiga fakes it...all in color.

 So I don't know what to tell you........This has been my eperience.:-)
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