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The "Not Quite Amiga but still computer related category" => Alternative Operating Systems => Topic started by: D@n on April 22, 2003, 11:52:05 AM
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I am Sick of Windows in almost every way, the way it works, looks, and most of all the stabiblity, yet I am stuck with it as it is the only OS that is widley available (for x86) with good software for it (Correct me if i'm wrong!)
Except, of course if you are talking about Linux, but then Linux isn't exactly an OS that a 14 year old can just pick up and go, it required careful tweaking and understanding before it can be of any use, let alone drivers for the hardware you may have.
Linux looks great on some screenshots I have seen(Mandrake 9.0) so good that I tried it out and tried to do something useful with it, I then found that it couldn't use my modem therefore I was stuck without the internet, so I changed back to windows.
Now what I am asking is, is there any 'User frienly' Linux Distros that are easy to pick up, and offer good stuff that is easy to configure to the average end user, and also I am thinking about Wine, does this actually do what it says it does and how hard is it to use and set up?
Also are there any 'how to use linux from A-Z' websites on the internet that show you which Distro is best for you, how to install and setup, and what to do from there etc.
Thanks for all your help
Dan :-D
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I found Mandrake to be easily the best one I have used.
You are right about modems, Linux is picky about which ones work. WinModems are notorious difficult to work on Linux. An External Modem via Serial Port work better like the US Robotics one. So I suggest getting something like that.
There are thousands of Websites. For Help, you need to use the HOW TO documents found on either www.linux.com or www.linux.org.
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What kind of modem? not all are supported.
Some might require some work to get running like winmodems, ISDN modems. You can try to find out what kind of modem you have and then look at the the websites for different linux dists and see if any of the support it.
You can also search for linux and the name of your modem in www.google.com and se if you find any information.
Redhat, mandrake, suse are all graphical and "user friendly"
http://www.linuxiso.org/
http://www.linux.org/
wine runns most of the programs/games that exists for windows. But only a few programs/games runs 100% perfect.
Wine is still in development and is still alpha software.
It is not exactly for endusers
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If you're going to get an A1 (as if you wouldn't!), then I'd suggest one of the two distros that currently are supported on the PPC: Debian or Yellow Dog. There is not much between them, there is plenty of support on the A1 developers' list, and plenty of help on the web.
SuSE used to have a PPC distro, but they've abandoned the PPC for now.
tony
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If you are new to linux, I recommend Morphix. It's a bootable CD that you can install to harddisk later if you want, but runs from CD just fine. It's based on Knoppix which has the best hardware detection of any Linux distro, so it may find your modem if it's not a Windows only modem. (Get NTL cheapo broadband for 15 quid instead)
morphix.org (http://morphix.sourceforge.net/modules/news/)
There are several different ISO's to download, I prefer GNOME to KDE myself so I recommend this ISO
ftp://dl.xs4all.nl/pub/mirror/drupal/Morphix/MorphixCombined-HeavyGUI-0.3-4.iso (http://ftp://dl.xs4all.nl/pub/mirror/drupal/Morphix/MorphixCombined-HeavyGUI-0.3-4.iso)
but one with KDE is available, and also one with IceWM for old hardware.
If you really want to learn about Linux (and I mean REALLY learn!!) you should give Gentoo a try gentoo.org (http://www.gentoo.org)
It's a source based ditro so you need fast hardware unless you like waiting for stuff to compile! ;-)
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Hmm.. If you're looking for an easy to setup distro I would recommend you RedHat/Mandrake.
These are really easy to setup and are IMHO good for starters. Also "plus" for them is that RedHat is supported by several big companies.
If you prefer user-friendlinies, with a bit of tuning the system I highly recommend you Debian. I use it for over 2-3 years now (Started on m68k Amiga) and I simply love it. I can't even imagine using distro without apt-get, dselect or aptitude
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If you prefer user-friendlinies, with a bit of tuning the system I highly recommend you Debian. I use it for over 2-3 years now (Started on m68k Amiga) and I simply love it. I can't even imagine using distro without apt-get, dselect or aptitude
Morphix is Debian based.
Just aptget update, then apt-get install synaptic, and you're on your way! :-)
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Oh.. forgot.. here is a table of equivalents between Windows and Linux..
http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/ (http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/)
I think you'll find it useful. You can always install vmware under linux, and run Windows in a.. window ;)
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Well thanks for all your advice guys, I think i'll try out morphix and go from there
Cheers Dan
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Well thanks for all your advice guys, I think i'll try out morphix and go from there
Have fun!
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If all else fails, there is always RedHat which is damn easy to use. How easy? I use it, that should give you a clue. ;)
Dammy
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Ok, go here.
http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=SUP2730
You might be able to find this same modem cheaper, since Diamond discontinued it. I bought mine for a easley 19.95..
Worth EVERY penny. Works fantastic and with everything, even my Amiga 1200 (after some trial and error)
Also, you can order a copy of almost any distrobution of linux from www.cheapbytes.com (Minus of course, documentation.) Generally a full release for about 6$ American.
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mandrake!
www.linux-mandrake.com (http://www.linux-mandrake.com/)
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@ mdma
Thanks for pointing out Morphix! I just downloaded, burned, and have configured it well enough for now in no time. Best of all, I am writting this now from Konqueror on my ADSL connection, something I could never get Lycoris to work with! This is sweet! (I have heard Lycoris is good and bad from people, but I would like to start off in the kiddie pool before jumping head long into the ocean of Linux) So far so good with Morphix.
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Sounds good, if I'd read this earlier I'd have said Lindows. supposedly it runs 60% of windows programs. Although I'm sure it needs tweaking for about half of those. WinE is a beautiful thing.
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Hi D@n,
I use Lindows and haven't had a problem loading it on any machine in my house yet except for the Amiga 3000 (Small wonder Lindows is based on X86 and Amiga on very old outdated slow dead 68000 technology. By the way did anyone ever tell you that Amiga was dead.
OH NO MR. BILL the Amiga is dead.
Anyhow Mandrake is my second choice than Red Had. If you really feel brave Debian can be fun, but I found out that Suse is strictly for Newbees to computers who think they know it all.
Now if you find a good web site for learning Linux, please get back with me, since all Linux websites that I have found are run by techno geeks that act like "you mean you don't know that, Oh god go back to your macintosh you jerk" I mean these people are real geeks that act like you are disturbing there world, thats why I like to use Lindows and go to their sites and ask them questions about Lindows their usual reply is " look why don't you get a real OS" in which I reply I have one it's called windows.
By the way if you are using America offline forget using any form of Linux. I haven't got them to get any of my 7 forms of Linux running on America offline yet. What I am trying to say is get yourself a real ISP, stay away also from compujerk, a subsidary of America offline.
Oh stay away from Amiga technoids, they have a way of infilterating your mind and soul with the now dead Amiga.
Some of them even have weird feelings like the Amiga might come back. These people are seriously in need of mental attention.
Anyhow have fun with Linux.
Stay away from Amiga Technoids.
Smerf
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Thanks for pointing out Morphix! I just downloaded, burned, and have configured it well enough for now in no time. Best of all, I am writting this now from Konqueror on my ADSL connection, something I could never get Lycoris to work with! This is sweet! (I have heard Lycoris is good and bad from people, but I would like to start off in the kiddie pool before jumping head long into the ocean of Linux) So far so good with Morphix.
It's good isn't it, but as it's based on Debian youget all the benefits of apt-get too.
If you have installed to HD, then go to a terminal session and type :
su
apt-get update
apt-get install synaptic
synaptic
You then have a GUI package manager for apt-get,much more convenient than the command line.
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The Peon's Guide to Gaining *NIX Proficiency
by Floid
Start with stably-shared Internet access. Your easiest time will involve the ever-popular DSL/Cable + Router combination, or connection sharing running on an OS you understand. For dialup users, some companies did make routers with inbuilt modems; scrounge eBay and use Google to find product reviews before you buy. Yes, *NIX can be used for this task, but this is a guide to gaining proficiency without tearing your hair out. What you spend now, you will recoup in savings later.
Find a cast-off machine to dedicate to learning on. If you were once proficient with MS-DOS and its hardware configuration issues, a 486 with an ISA bus may be fine. If you are not, something from the Pentium era is recommended. If you are truly not a hardware type, a Pentium II or K6-2 machine meeting the specs outlined below will be advised; these can be had for far less than $200 from vendors such as PCSurplusOnline (http://www.pcsurplusonline.com), Computer Geeks (http://www.compgeeks.com), or Auction Depot (http://www.auctiondepot.com/2/main_ad/Home.tmpl). If you fall in that last category, I would suggest avoiding Compaq Deskpros, as many such models require an on-disk BIOS configuration utility, which will make the process much more confusing; Dells and Gateways are likely safe bets, as may be IBMs. In fairness to Compaq, most Presarios may also be 'safe enough' for our purposes. One of those Wal-Mart.com Lindows PCs could be a safe place to start, if you can cope with the idea that you'll be blowing the OS off of it for the time being; they do sell OS-free PCs, but that hardware may not be as guaranteed, especially on the gamers' systems. If you absolutely cannot stand x86 hardware, or are more familiar with the vagaries of the Mac, an iMac may be the closest thing to a suitable place to start; do prepare yourself for installation headaches.
You will want at least 16MB of RAM, and 2gb of disk. It may sound counterinituitive, but disk is your greater concern. This does not hold true for all applications of *NIX, but it does for the purposes of your training system.
When you have procured your system, install a suitable network card. "Suitable" will vary based on your hardware and your proficiency. If you are technically capable and going the 486/ISA route, an NE2000 or clone is advised; if it is a modern jumperless variant (cards based on the Realtek RTL8019AS are my favorites), keep a bootable DOS setup disk handy. If you are using a PCI system, the various revisions of the Linksys LNE100TX stand a fair chance of working across the distributions I'm about to suggest. Other cards, and/or onboard interfaces may as well, but if you have trouble, add or swap in a supported card. You can get the ISA cards from PCBay (http://www.pcbay.com) or similar vendors, and Linksys cards are as rare as air these days. Both should be available under $20.
Once your hardware is assembled, select a barebones distribution. If you aren't dead-set on Linux, NetBSD and OpenBSD are excellent choices. If you are, Slackware, Debian, Gentoo, Sourcemage and Lunar-Linux are likely worth considering. (Keep in mind that the last three may have higher memory and CPU requirements, and the install processes for all the Linuxes will prove generally more complex than what those two BSDs demand, and with the exception of Debian, may require you to own a CD-burner and have a CD-ROM in your impending *NIX box.)
With your hardware assembled, follow whatever procedure is necessary to install the latest stable version of your distribution of choice; I'd suggest a network install, if possible- and yes, it's possible to install at least OpenBSD in one night over a 56k link (but you *will* need to be connected to a LAN to do it; ppp support is too big for the install floppy). Stick to a single ('root,' or '/') partition or slice, and a swap partition (128MB should provide a very, very large margin of safety with a *BSD) if suggested. If you get the option to install packages, choose only "lynx" (a text-based web browser), "links" (another text-based browser, if available), "wget" (a tool for fetching files from URLs), and one of "ircII," "ircII-EPIC," or "BitchX" if you are a fan of IRC chatting, which you may be advised to become.
Create an account for yourself. If given a choice of shell, 'bash,' 'ksh' (or 'pdksh'), or 'sh' (in absence of the others) are safe choices for now. On a BSD system, add the account to the 'wheel' group when given the option. Learn some history in the process. (http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-help/1997/03/11/0008.html) Create another account for testing, so you can learn about the multiuser features of the system.
If something gets hosed in the process, don't be afraid to try again- or to try recovering from your error. It can take everyone a dozen tries to get right the first time.
When you're fairly certain you've done everything right, congratulations- now it's time to adjust your attitude, and go shopping.
Yep, you heard me right. Whatever your preconceptions of *NIX are- big, small, scary, mainframe-related, Free Software revolutionary, Microsoft-killing- leave them at the doorstep. Clear your mind, think back to the day you first sat down at a computer, and realize that *NIX is just another system developed for running programs and managing data. (If this proves too aggravating, remember that it's also been 'the' system for running programs and managing data, and as such, every OS developed in the past 20 years has been in some way a reaction to it.) If you need some inspiration, there's always Stephenson's essay (http://kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu/~kamikaze/documents/beginning_CLI.html) - and you heard me right: you're going to be sticking to the command line.
Why? Because, at heart, *NIX is a terminal-based system. For now, stick to text mode. Realize that, back in the days when those first lines of C were written, your console may well have been a teletype. You've had the foresight to keep your main box around for the everday tasks you rely on- no inconvenient dual-booting, no attempting to force the system to do everything you rely on AmigaOS, Windows, or MacOS for before you have any idea how to use it. This is archaeology; this is history; this is hacking for the fun of it. So what if you can't play Quake off the bat? Dear God, man, you've just put an entire mainframe on your desk! (...and hey, it might even be faster than a Cray 1.)
So what was this about going shopping? Well, it's time to hit up the bookstore. Home in on the books with the critters on the covers, and find the O'Reilly guide to the shell you've selected- they print references for bash and the Korn shell (ksh/pdksh), among others. Flip through the general UNIX guides, and try to find one that's cheap, has lots of diagrams, and mentions both "BSD" and "Linux" or "GNU" ways of life. 'Running Linux' might be worth a shot if you've decided to run Linux, but it's fairly sparse. Search out online resources; good distributions tend to have Guides (http://netbsd.org/Documentation/), FAQs (http://openbsd.org/faq/index.html), and References (http://www.debian.org/doc/) that cover the basics of system administration and accomplishing common tasks. Be prepared to slay a few more trees as you discover what you want to focus in on- as you progress, you might want a good reference guide to Internet Protocol and network administration (for what it's worth, the O'Reilly volume on the topic is somewhat lukewarm), or to specific tools that interest you.
But anyhow, thusly armed, it's time to start assembling potshards. Learn to navigate the directory hierarchy (on a BSD, 'man hier' will get you started); pick up some of those funny-named tools like 'grep' and discover what they actually do, how they fit together, and why they become regular verbs to folk who use them often. Get to know your hardware (at least, the detected state of it) with 'dmesg.' Learn how to fire up 'lynx' or 'links' and browse the web, and how to use 'vi.' Toy with your IRC program to make it useful on an 80x25 screen, or find out to tweak your system to use high-density text modes, and maybe even 'svgalib' or kernel framebuffer drivers to display images- and, of course, Acidwarp. Find out what 'dependencies' really are, and how to deal with them. Think about the things you used your first computer for, in those first weeks after you unpacked it, and investigate the equivalents available. Discover the package or ports-management system favored on your distribution, and install just the software you want.
Read up on 'rcs' so you can record the changes you make to your system configuration, and have the chance of undoing them. Have a go at upgrading your installation- remember, it's just a pile of programs, scripts, and their configuration files.
Do this in your spare time- there's no rush. Try to put your learning box somewhere where it'll be convenient to use as an alternative to your usual machine, if you can stretch the cables that far. After a year of casual exposure, you should find yourself ready to install XFree86- or to move up to a machine that can handle it- and confident enough to turn your install into a useful desktop system- or at least, to deal with the oddities of the prepackaged attempts thereat.
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Very well written Floid.
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Use a G3 iMac running OS X (Unix based) and a piece of cake to us and set-up.
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Use a G3 iMac running OS X (Unix based) and a piece of cake to us and set-up.
UNIX for Dummies! ;-)
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I am also interested in WineX but I am a bit confused, does it run normal software that the original Wine runs (MS office etc.) or does it just run the games?
Also will it work with Morphix
and what is Debian like as a distro cos that has got me interested cos Morphix doesn't seem complete (Havn't finished downloading yet (56k connection))
Is Morphix complete and stable enough to install to Hard Disk or would I be better off with Red Hat or some other free one like that
Cheers
DAn
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@tony
SuSE used to have a PPC distro, but they've abandoned the PPC for now
and I find this odd, IBM makes PPC and SuSE and IBM are nearly bed partners.....so wtf?
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I am also interested in WineX but I am a bit confused, does it run normal software that the original Wine runs
Yes.
Also will it work with Morphix
Yes
and what is Debian like as a distro cos that has got me interested cos Morphix doesn't seem complete
Morphix is Debian. Once you have installed it to hard disk with the icon on your desktop. just go to a terminal and type
su
apt-get update
apt-get installl synaptic
then run synaptic to install any software and all dependencies. You have a fully functioning Debian setup without the pain in the arse installation.
Is Morphix complete and stable enough to install to Hard Disk or would I be better off with Red Hat
Stick with Morphix, you thank me in the long run! ;-)
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Stick with Morphix, you thank me in the long run!
The reason I asked this question is because it's seems that no one else is using it and lots of people seem to be using Red Hat, what does red hat have over morphix or vice versa?
Also I managed to find an official driver for my Modem for Linux it is a .tar.gz archive what do I do with this and how do I install the driver?
Cheers
Dan
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I don't know why SuSE has dropped PPC, I just know they are at 8.2 with their x86 version, and 7.3 on ppc. Really not a good sign. At least with Debian I can install the excact same applications on x86 and ppc (commercial applications excepted).
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The reason I asked this question is because it's seems that no one else is using it and lots of people seem to be using Red Hat, what does red hat have over morphix or vice versa?
Corporate Image, thats about it really.
Morphix is Debian based so you get proper package management and dependency checking. Easy to upgrade to latest version (apt-get dist-upgrade). The list goes on!
Also I managed to find an official driver for my Modem for Linux it is a .tar.gz archive what do I do with this and how do I install the driver?
OK, if it's got a driver for Linux, morphix probably knows how to detect it anyway. Thats why I said stick with it. It has the best hardware detection of any distro.
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Why modem didnt work is probably cause it was a winmodem.... Basicly designed for windoze.. Get a external modem, then you are sure it works, and actually even more easy to setup than in windows.
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@ mdma
morphix looks good im going to download it sometime .I like suse myself but it is not easy to download because they provide no iso images although they do an evaluation version which boots from cd which you can download as an iso. morphix looks like the best choice i had not heard of this distro before booting from cd without installing is briliant .
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morphix looks good im going to download it sometime .I like suse myself
I used to use SuSE myself years ago, I even bought versions 5.3 and 7.3 box sets.
I have used Gentoo for a few months now, and it is no doubt the best distro ever once you get it set up and configured to our liking.
But my Gentoo box died the other week, I've been using my Windows XP machine since and it's hell!!!
Morphix is very good though, it's based on Knoppix, which in turn is based on Debian, so you get the best of both worlds with it, but i reccommend Morphic over Knoppix as it's easier for a non techie user to install to HD (And you can download a ISO that doesn't have the dreaded KDE on it!)
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amigamad wrote:
@ mdma
morphix looks good im going to download it sometime .I like suse myself but it is not easy to download because they provide no iso images although they do an evaluation version which boots from cd which you can download as an iso. morphix looks like the best choice i had not heard of this distro before booting from cd without installing is briliant .
You can install the full-current Suse from the live-iso CD. (They'll probably change this once more people realise this :)
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Floid wrote:
The Peon's Guide to Gaining *NIX Proficiency
by Floid
Wow...makes me want to go rip my RH8 box apart and start all over again! I wonder if I can telnet to the box from a floppy boot.....
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D@n wrote:
I am Sick of Windows in almost every way, the way it works, looks, and most of all the stabiblity,
Which version of MS Windows(in regards to stability)?
MS Windows 9x/ME cannot be equated with NT5.1/5.2 (a.k.a Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 respectively).
Except, of course if you are talking about Linux, but then Linux isn't exactly an OS that a 14 year old can just pick up and go, it required careful tweaking and understanding before it can be of any use, let alone drivers for the hardware you may have.
Linux looks great on some screenshots I have seen(Mandrake 9.0) so good that I tried it out and tried to do something useful with it, I then found that it couldn't use my modem therefore I was stuck without the internet, so I changed back to windows.
Now what I am asking is, is there any 'User frienly' Linux Distros that are easy to pick up, and offer good stuff that is easy to configure to the average end user, and also I am thinking about Wine, does this actually do what it says it does and how hard is it to use and set up?
Also are there any 'how to use linux from A-Z' websites on the internet that show you which Distro is best for you, how to install and setup, and what to do from there etc.
Thanks for all your help
Dan :-D
Refer to
"http://www.distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=major" for other major Linux distros...
I do like Lycoris for 'relative' ease of use (used in Walmart PCs). It's a competitor to Lindows (yet another commercial Linux distro, also used in Walmart PCs (IF I recall correctly)).
http://www.lycoris.com
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I have downloaded and i am running morphix linux from the disc and i have to say this one of the best linux distros ive seen i got the kde version because i prefer it it works without fault even has nvidia drivers running for fast 3d and onboard sound is working without fault,one of the best distros i have tried. :-D :-D :-D
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i have to say this one of the best linix distros ive seen
Install it to hd, then do this to see it really fly!
su
apt-get update
apt-get install prelink
prelink -afmR
This will prelink all your executables to their dependencies. Loading times get reduced by at least 50%.
just do "prelink -afmR" everytime you install something new to get maximum effect.
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jeffimix wrote:
Sounds good, if I'd read this earlier I'd have said Lindows. supposedly it runs 60% of windows programs. Although I'm sure it needs tweaking for about half of those. WinE is a beautiful thing.
Note that Wine/WineX runs half the speed of Windows2000...
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Mike_Amiga wrote:
Use a G3 iMac running OS X (Unix based) and a piece of cake to us and set-up.
By extension, the Windows NT kernel is based on DEC’s VMS (yet another *nix like). Apple is not the first company that bolted in a brain dead user interface and a *nix like kernel. MS Windows’s TCP/IP stack is based/ripped/copied/assimilated from BSD sources. MS's Internet Explorer is based/ripped/copied/assimilated on NCSA Mosaic.
MS just re-packaged and marketed all these sources and called it Windows NT/2K/XP/2003 and 'etc'.
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I work for Sun, and use Linux/Unix every day....
It's a nightmare... .don't use it! Trust me Windows is a joy to use compared to Linux....
Sorry to be negative n all.....
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scorchio wrote:
I work for Sun, and use Linux/Unix every day....
It's a nightmare... .don't use it! Trust me Windows is a joy to use compared to Linux....
Sorry to be negative n all.....
windows is crap, i only use it for games
different OS's for different purposes...
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windows is crap, i only use it for games
I have to use it for my dev tools for work, and my 4 year old son plays his games on it, and I use it for music software. Thats it.
Linux for everything else. Oh hang on, I use WinUAE over Linux-UAE as it is better IMHO.
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Looks like some good advice in this thread but
it seems to me that personal preference has a
lot to do with your choice . Maybe Wayne could
use this as a topic for one of the polls on this site .
Stupid question number 19 :-)
Once you have sorted out all your problems of
installation , hardware compatibility etc.,
what range of software can you run on Linux ?
Are there programs that run only on certain
varieties of Linux , or do they all run
equally well on all of them ?
(Reason for question -
I am a reluctant winDoze user at work , run an
Amiga 1200 at home & have no experience at all
of Linux . I'm wondering if it's worth buying an
AmigaOne before AOS4 comes out & experimenting
with it )
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Are there programs that run only on certain
varieties of Linux , or do they all run
equally well on all of them ?
Any program compiled for linux will run on any other linux (On same CPU family).
If you buy an A1, get Debian for it (I think it's available, it s for Pegasos), then you'll never have software installation problems. It'll be VERY confusing at first, but just ask on forums when you get stuck and you'll get good help.
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what range of software can you run on Linux ?
open office is supposed to be excellent. i have it but don't use it much as i'm mostly an artist, and without a printer (at the moment), i have no real reason for a word processor. but i'm sure i will use it someday.
there is an WinAmp type program which plays mp3's and audio files. xmm something. there is a cd player. forget the name. it just comes with the distro.
there are also programs which let you burn cd's.
if you have an external modem you can log on immediately and there are several browsers to pick from. and Opera comes in a linux version.
and, of course, there is GIMP. an excellent image processor. better in certain ways than Photoshop (unless you have to do alot of complex color printing). for animations i would still use IFX or AfterEffects. but GIMP is wonderful.
and there are games galore for those of you who play games. i don't much, but they are there.
and there are cool programs like kstars. it's an astronomy program like distant suns. fun stuff.
there are really alot of programs for linux. alot come with whatever you get, and then there are alot available from the web.
it's not like amiga which is the most user friendly OS out there - i'm still mucking about with fonts on my linux - but it is stable and fun.
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here is a link for a picture of morphix running on a friends pc under virtual pc morphix picture (http://www.geocities.com/lexx1us/temp/22.JPG)
since i downloaded it about four or five other people i know are now trying it cant believe i had never heard of this distro. some very good software on the disc not bloated with stuff you dont need .im going to put a 20 gig hd in my other pc to play with it and ill download the game iso. it detected my friends network card when booted from disc and he could go online without configuring anything i might use my 2nd pc for runnig linux .
:-D
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t detected my friends network card when booted from disc and he could go online without configuring anything i might use my 2nd pc for runnig linux .
Why don't you use your second pc for running Winblows and your first for running Morphix? ;-)
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no it has to be on the second pc my main one has geoforce ti4200 and xp 2400 cpu and is my games machine amongst other things.
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no it has to be on the second pc my main one has geoforce ti4200 and xp 2400 cpu and is my games machine amongst other things.
Try this run-from-cd gentoo distro on your games pc then. It boots straight into UT2003 Nvidia accelerated and all evices autodetected. Very nice indeed. It's a good one to show your mates the power of Linux.
http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/www.ibiblio.org/gentoo/experimental/x86/gamecd/gamecd-ut2003-20030405.iso (http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/www.ibiblio.org/gentoo/experimental/x86/gamecd/gamecd-ut2003-20030405.iso)
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Try this run-from-cd gentoo distro on your games pc then. It boots straight into UT2003 Nvidia accelerated and all evices autodetected. Very nice indeed. It's a good one to show your mates the power of Linux.
ok ill give that a go thanks :-D
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ok ill give that a go thanks
No probs :-)