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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: FPGA Accelerator Boards for 600
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2014, 08:38:22 PM »
For some people the glass is half-full, others half-empty. I for one think this accelerator is awesome, would def. buy if I had an A600. ;)
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Re: FPGA Accelerator Boards for 600
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2014, 09:07:37 PM »
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@wawrzon >> So what if I don't have the apollo core running. I still have the hardware running a 68k core.


as you might have noticed i was answering to that post by xdelusion:
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OK I just read that 100Mips is coming. That's about as fast as my 060. Impressive!

you asked me for explanation. im not trying to pick on majstas excellent effort or spoil your fun with it, but i think it is fair to indicate to someone who might not observe the issue as closely that his expectation are a little over the top, just to avoid disappointments. dont you think?

your current core allows for a performance in a range of a middle class 030 afair, its fine but its nowhere around 100mips as yet.
 

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Re: FPGA Accelerator Boards for 600
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2014, 09:26:40 PM »
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as you might have noticed i was answering to that post by xdelusion:

you asked me for explanation. im not trying to pick on majstas excellent effort or spoil your fun with it, but i think it is fair to indicate to someone who might not observe the issue as closely that his expectation are a little over the top, just to avoid disappointments. dont you think?

your current core allows for a performance in a range of a middle class 030 afair, its fine but its nowhere around 100mips as yet.


Thanks to both of you. I still want one, hope I can get one, but will not look forward to the Apollo core, just as I don't expect the MorphOS team to resolve the bugs in my Efika.
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Re: FPGA Accelerator Boards for 600
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2014, 10:31:56 PM »
if i still had my 600 id get one myself i guess. i hope majsta returns to this project or rather the so called "apollo" core will once see the light of the day. the best thing would be if some open community gathered around this or similar project to tweak it, alas its hopeless i fear.
 

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Re: FPGA Accelerator Boards for 600
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2014, 10:47:36 PM »
It looks like it's just waiting for some clever FPGA coder to adopt this project and get it moving again.
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Re: FPGA Accelerator Boards for 600
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2014, 11:16:07 PM »
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if i still had my 600 id get one myself i guess. i hope majsta returns to this project or rather the so called "apollo" core will once see the light of the day. the best thing would be if some open community gathered around this or similar project to tweak it, alas its hopeless i fear.


No doubt, you'd think he'd be mass producing them and making some money while making the community happy.

The 600 is HIGHLY underated.
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Re: FPGA Accelerator Boards for 600
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2014, 12:52:59 AM »
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For some people the glass is half-full, others half-empty. I for one think this accelerator is awesome, would def. buy if I had an A600. ;)

Hi and I would buy one if I could only get one lol does anyone know how long the waiting list is as I seen to have been on it a while ,mind you we need to be grateful that folk like  igors  are around and help to push the Amiga forward and keep it alive especially the Amiga 600 which is already one of my prize possessions and a delight to use so lets not loose track at which direction we are heading because surely with folk like  igors  around things can only keep getting better ,very best wishes Brian:laugh1::laugh1::laugh1:
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Re: FPGA Accelerator Boards for 600
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2014, 01:00:18 AM »
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old news. i wouldnt bet at it much, considering the experience.

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Considering what experience ? The experience that Majsta made a product against all odds ? Experience that people like you laugh at him when he started the project saying its not possible, i wouldnt bet at it much etc... Or is it maybe the experience that he made a revolutionary product for Amiga (first fpga accelerator) and made it open source. Yeah that guy cant be trusted, he must be a communist or something :)


Is communist a bad term over there? It all goes in circles and I get confused. The U.S. has become the communists (President and Democrats), the Russians have become the Putin fascists (at least according to comrade Hilliary Clinton) and the Chinese have become the capitalists. Where does that leave the German realist peacemakers now? Under fire? Wawa got bashed over on EAB for harmless realistic comments too.

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=72803

The truth is that Majsta seems to be blown out or lost interest (at least taking a break instead of working to support his fine project) and Gunnar's Phoenix is way behind schedule probably because he is a big dreamer who changes ideas all the time (the VHDL core is probably faster than any fpga core but may never be finished). That's coming from the most active member of the Apollo "Team" on the Apollo forum besides Gunnar. I have tried to help and I've tried to push but everything Amiga seems to be in this time warped lala land. It's probably just better to relax, hope for the best and not expect much. Anything good is then a pleasant surprise ;).
 

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Re: FPGA Accelerator Boards for 600
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2014, 03:11:58 AM »
Many Amiga projects seems to be derided as impossible until the skeptics are faced with the reality of hardware. Same from Minimig, Arcade, Majsta-600 etc..

One thing to look for is if the code for the project is actually released. If it ain't then the project should be considered hot air or at least potentially gone before you get any 3rd degree contact with it, ever.

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Wawa got bashed over on EAB for harmless realistic comments too.


About what? in what way?
 

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Re: FPGA Accelerator Boards for 600
« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2014, 03:36:11 AM »
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Many Amiga projects seems to be derided as impossible until the skeptics are faced with the reality of hardware. Same from Minimig, Arcade, Majsta-600 etc..

One thing to look for is if the code for the project is actually released. If it ain't then the project should be considered hot air or at least potentially gone before you get any 3rd degree contact with it, ever.



About what? in what way?


I think the source code has been released...
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Re: FPGA Accelerator Boards for 600
« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2014, 05:25:26 AM »
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About what? in what way?


The link is above. Well maybe not bashed but stung by the StingRay. StingRay has this vendetta against Gunnar or something. Wawa tried to take the middle ground and show support. It had more to do with the complete failure of Natami (according to StingRay) than anything to do with majsta's accelerator although wawa showed support for it too. Amiga people sure can be opinionated over the smallest things. I guess that's why we have 4 camps. Djole did put a :) in there so I guess it could have been worse.
 

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Re: FPGA Accelerator Boards for 600
« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2014, 06:32:08 AM »
Why accomplish something when we can fight over the specifications for the next Amiga project that will dominate the world ;)
 

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Re: FPGA Accelerator Boards for 600
« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2014, 06:44:53 AM »
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I think the source code has been released...


Yes, Robinsonb5 sent the 0.1 source code to GitHub. It's web-based hosting service for software development projects.

https://github.com/robinsonb5/Vampire600

I made a little video about how to build the Vampire 600 Core (from Project).

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Re: FPGA Accelerator Boards for 600
« Reply #27 on: March 09, 2014, 09:36:52 AM »
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Is communist a bad term over there? It all goes in circles and I get confused. The U.S. has become the communists (President and Democrats), the Russians have become the Putin fascists (at least according to comrade Hilliary Clinton) and the Chinese have become the capitalists. Where does that leave the German realist peacemakers now? Under fire? Wawa got bashed over on EAB for harmless realistic comments too.

alas its way more complicated. as for german peacenicks you might consider me polish peacenik living in berlin. not that i woudnt support basic right for self definition, and russian imperialism a threat but this has nothing to do with communism;)
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http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=72803


i have not even noticed stingray responded, and i dont feel like being bashed, its a regular discussion, i do even agree with him for the most part, i just dont feel the rage.
 

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Re: FPGA Accelerator Boards for 600
« Reply #28 on: March 09, 2014, 09:37:09 AM »
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Is communist a bad term over there? It all goes in circles and I get confused. The U.S. has become the communists (President and Democrats), the Russians have become the Putin fascists (at least according to comrade Hilliary Clinton) and the Chinese have become the capitalists. Where does that leave the German realist peacemakers now? Under fire? Wawa got bashed over on EAB for harmless realistic comments too.

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=72803

The truth is that Majsta seems to be blown out or lost interest (at least taking a break instead of working to support his fine project) and Gunnar's Phoenix is way behind schedule probably because he is a big dreamer who changes ideas all the time (the VHDL core is probably faster than any fpga core but may never be finished). That's coming from the most active member of the Apollo "Team" on the Apollo forum besides Gunnar. I have tried to help and I've tried to push but everything Amiga seems to be in this time warped lala land. It's probably just better to relax, hope for the best and not expect much. Anything good is then a pleasant surprise ;).



Communist part was supposed to be sarcastic. I grew up in communism and it wasnt that bad. Most people had better life back then, more money and even more freedom.

It just makes me mad when i see comments like that, "... considering the experience". Makes you think the author didnt deliver anything.
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Re: FPGA Accelerator Boards for 600
« Reply #29 from previous page: March 09, 2014, 08:32:17 PM »
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"... considering the experience"

apparently we are lost in translation. again, my mention of "experience" doesnt apply to majstas himself, but to the usual course of affairs in amiga world. as example i very grateful for aros68k effort by jason and toni, which alas has come almost to halt without getting where i would like it to be, a fully functional replacement and improvement on amiga operating system working well on genuine hardware, that is. thats just an example. i dont complain about it, i just observe and i wish ther would be more interest, current and cooperation to carry on. thats all.