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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: AmigaPixel on December 14, 2013, 09:24:11 PM
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I have been told that OS 3.9 really needs a graphic card to run at it's best. How well does does 3.9 run with an Indivision ECS? The reason I ask is my A2000 still has WB 2.1, I would like to upgrade it at least 3.1 but just wondered about 3.9
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OS 3.9 needs a 68020, a lot of RAM, a screen mode with 1:1 aspect and a lot of colors.
With OCS chipset 16 colors is the maximum and the absolute minimum for OS 3.9 to look ok.
640x512x16 needs 160 kb of chip RAM. Another 160 KB for the background image. And a bit more for the icons.
If you can afford all this, then it's ok. You'll probably not be able to run any game with this setup.
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What revision is your motherboard?
Chris
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OS 3.9 needs a 68020, a lot of RAM, a screen mode with 1:1 aspect and a lot of colors.
With OCS chipset 16 colors is the maximum and the absolute minimum for OS 3.9 to look ok.
640x512x16 needs 160 kb of chip RAM. Another 160 KB for the background image. And a bit more for the icons.
If you can afford all this, then it's ok. You'll probably not be able to run any game with this setup.
I have an 030 and 68882 co processor, so that is covered. Will OS 3.9 work well with the Indivision ECS? Is it best to keep WB in 16 colors while using the Indivision?
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What revision is your motherboard?
Chris
I believe it is 6.2 but I will to look and see. Now that I think about it I think the sticker that gave the exact rev came off but the MB says rev 6.
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I run OS 3.9 + BB1-4, Visual Prefs, Peter K.'s icon library, and the Rebel palette on my A2000 using Indivision ECS and a LCD monitor. I typically run either 800x600x16 color SuperPlus, or a custom 700x482x16 color screen mode (is a little faster than SuperPlus). Attached are a couple screenshots of my system that I took a few days ago. While I'm still in the market for a graphics card it's a low priority, given the cost. Honestly I've shown this system to people and they're shocked that it's only 16 colors. ;)
So, yes, 3.9 will absolutely run for you on the Indivision ECS. :drink:
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Hey Mike, this is awesome! I gotta do this to my A2000. I just need a 3.1 ROM. I just placed a ROM in my cart at AmigaKit (other things in there too just have to get all at once to save on crazy shipping prices - I hate when they run out of hard to find items while I'm waiting to fill my cart with goodies). I have a couple of spare 10GB/10K RPM SCSI drives I could experiment on. I think it's time to get a USB card too! I also have a spare Toaster4000 card that might work with OS3.9 in an A2000? How does you AD516 work out with OS3.9? I've never tried to get mine to actually work yet. :o So anyways... more Q's to come on this great project of yours!
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Thanks, Gizmo! The AD516 is still "on the list", I haven't had a chance to reload the software or try out the AHI driver for it yet. Hopefully soon! And the USB Thylacine, I'm not too pleased with. It's slow and laggy when it doesn't lock up the system entirely. I've got on my list to try it with the original Thylacine software (instead of Prometheus), and am also considering SpeedFreak's 14MHz Buster hack, since it seems like people using this card in A3000/4000 ZIII don't have any of these issues. Or I may ditch it for an alternate solution, still deciding.
Looking at your sig our systems are pretty similar, I smell a competition for the best A2000, haha! :D
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Cool gfx setup Mike!
Really impressive!
When I have time, I have to take care of my Amigas also on this side! :-)
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Looking at your sig our systems are pretty similar, I smell a competition for the best A2000, haha! :D
Game on! :swords: :lol:
My Kingdom for a 3.1 ROM!
Anyone have a spare here in the Union? :rolleyes:
Now back to Star Trek TOS, The Galileo Seven, on Enhanced DVD! Geeze, I never get tired of watching Phyllis Douglas (rip) leap frogging out of her seat on to the floor of the Shuttlecraft!
Scotty: What a mess.
Mr Spock: Picturesque descriptions will not mend broken circuits, Mr. Scott.
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@Oldsmobile_Mike
Thanks for the for the feed back and explanations. That really helps a lot! I look forward setting mine up in a similar way and trying out these screen modes.
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Game on! :swords: :lol:
My Kingdom for a 3.1 ROM!
Anyone have a spare here the Union? :rolleyes:
Now back to Star Trek TOS, The Galileo Seven, on Enhanced DVD! Geeze, I never get tired of watching Phyllis Douglas (rip) leap frogging out of her seat on to the floor of the Shuttlecraft!
Scotty: What a mess.
Mr Spock: Picturesque descriptions will not mend broken circuits, Mr. Scott.
Ironically that is the only episode have yet. I downloaded it from iTunes two or three years back thinking it would have the new digital CG effects. Alas it did not! It was not clear at the time wich were the updated TOS episodes. Still fun to watch though. It funny to see how they carefully made sure you could not see panties under that mini skirt after they had crash landed on the planet. She is sitting on the floor with her legs open but the had McCoy(Kelly) is standing in front her. A sweet looking woman.
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I have OS3.9 with BB4+ on a rev 6.2 board and an Indy ECS running fine, but both 3.9 and USB require at least a 68020 and some fast RAM. My setup has a newly acquired A2630, 1 GB HDD and CDROM off an A2091. 3.1 ROMs are available.
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I have OS3.9 with BB4+ on a rev 6.2 board and an Indy ECS running fine, but both 3.9 and USB require at least a 68020 and some fast RAM. My setup has a newly acquired A2630, 1 GB HDD and CDROM off an A2091. 3.1 ROMs are available.
Nice set up! I have a Derringer 030 but it plugs into the 68000 socket lays parallel to the motherboard. I have been discussing this issue in another thread as far as there being enough room for the Indivision ECS since the derringer partially covers over the Denise chip. It looks like it may work. However I only have 1mb chip ram and would like to get a Minimeg or DKB Megachip but it really have to be seen if that will squeeze under the Derringer.
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Here is a photo pf the Derringer 030
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Nice set up! I have a Derringer 030 but it plugs into the 68000 socket lays parallel to the motherboard. I have been discussing this issue in another thread as far as there being enough room for the Indivision ECS since the derringer partially covers over the Denise chip. It looks like it may work. However I only have 1mb chip ram and would like to get a Minimeg or DKB Megachip but it really have to be seen if that will squeeze under the Derringer.
I've had the 2 mb chip ram and never noticed a difference between it and a 1 mb chip; must be used for something I suppose.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HzKTLmejtQ
Workbench3.9 running on OCS and 68000 !!!
(PAL HiRes Interlace @ 16 Colors)
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I run OS 3.9 + BB1-4, Visual Prefs, Peter K.'s icon library, and the Rebel palette on my A2000 using Indivision ECS and a LCD monitor. I typically run either 800x600x16 color SuperPlus, or a custom 700x482x16 color screen mode (is a little faster than SuperPlus). Attached are a couple screenshots of my system that I took a few days ago. While I'm still in the market for a graphics card it's a low priority, given the cost. Honestly I've shown this system to people and they're shocked that it's only 16 colors. ;)
So, yes, 3.9 will absolutely run for you on the Indivision ECS. :drink:
That is one of the best 16 color systems I have ever seen! Great job Mike, that is a sweet system.
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That is one of the best 16 color systems I have ever seen! Great job Mike, that is a sweet system.
Thanks! It's a labor of love, and also of OCD. Back in the day when I had my first Amiga's I would go for down-to-the-pixel percision on icon appearance and placement, etc. Used to stay up all night fine-tuning appearance. Now a'days I can only keep my eyelids up till about 4am messing with this stuff, LOL. ;)
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Ratte my friend that is insane!
Lotsa kudos for the video /respect
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Is the a1000 motherboard connected to the pc motherboard at the side?. for what use?
Seems an interesting piece of hardware.
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How does you AD516 work out with OS3.9? I've never tried to get mine to actually work yet. :o
Hi Gizmo! Just to get back to you on this, I loaded up the latest Studio 16 software and AHI drivers last night, AD516 appears to work fine under 3.9. I played back some samples (through Studio 16), system beeps, and threw an mp3 in there with AMPlifier, too, no issues. Now to find a list of other AHI compatible software... this kind of rocks! :)
PS - disregard the Katy Perry wallpaper, I'm actually listening to Boston, LOL. :biglaugh:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPCV6PCXyUg