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New A600 accellerators
« on: November 04, 2015, 01:42:50 PM »
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Offline Iggy

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Re: New A600 accellerators
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2015, 03:49:35 PM »
Lotharek finally released that?
Too cool.
It was listed as unavailable just yesterday.

Anyone who is not familiar with this guy, he builds some neat hardware.

I have used his [FONT="]VBXE video upgrade for the Atari 130XE combined with the Liber809 6809 conversion board from Cloud 9 in order to run a multi-tasking OS on an130XE with higher res graphics, sprites and a blitter.
Jay Miner would be proud of what we are still getting out of his hardware.

This should be cool.
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Re: New A600 accellerators
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2015, 06:56:45 PM »
Vampire600 V2 seems like a much better deal to me, feature-wise, and its even a bit cheaper.
 

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Re: New A600 accellerators
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2015, 07:40:19 PM »
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Vampire600 V2 seems like a much better deal to me, feature-wise, and its even a bit cheaper.

But Vampire uses FPGA, and Lotharek board uses a real 68EC020 processor + FPU, so it might have  a higher level of compatibility?

Or maybe some people would rather just have a "real" processor.  ;)

Also - does Vampire do '020+882 instructions?  Isn't it just - basically - a very fast 68000?

On a side-note, I'm a little disappointed that the first we're hearing about this board is through an ebay auction.  I vaguely recognize the guy's name but other than that had no idea he was this close to producing a working, for-sale, accelerator that you can buy today.  Shouldn't something like that be a news item on this site?  :(
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Re: New A600 accellerators
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2015, 08:05:06 PM »
Vampire600 V2 will use the Apollo core, which is supposed to be 68060 compatible.
I dont know about 020/882 for sure, but I remember reading its 020 compatible.

As for the Fúria accelerator, its been discussed on EAB since 2012.
 

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Re: New A600 accellerators
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2015, 08:21:25 PM »
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As for the Fúria accelerator, its been discussed on EAB since 2012.

That helps Amiga.org exactly, how?  :p
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Re: New A600 accellerators
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2015, 08:38:41 PM »
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But Vampire uses FPGA, and Lotharek board uses a real 68EC020 processor + FPU, so it might have  a higher level of compatibility?

The 68EC020 is the real thing which defines the standard which compatibility is based on.

Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;798742
Also - does Vampire do '020+882 instructions?  Isn't it just - basically - a very fast 68000?

The Apollo is mostly 68020 and 68000 compatible. Compatibility with the 68000 is much easier than the 68020. The new Vampire board has enough room for at least a partial FPU (similar to the 68060 implementation). I don't know if the current FPU implementation is as complete as the 68060 or is even extended precision like the original. I haven't seen FPU specific software running on the new Vampire so there are probably bugs.
 

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Re: New A600 accellerators
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2015, 09:57:27 PM »
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Vampire600 V2 will use the Apollo core, which is supposed to be 68060 compatible.
I dont know about 020/882 for sure, but I remember reading its 020 compatible.

As for the Fúria accelerator, its been discussed on EAB since 2012.

Will the Vampire accelerator have extra fast memory?
And is it available now?

In Fúria's case, the answer to both is yes.
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Re: New A600 accellerators
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2015, 10:18:25 PM »
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Will the Vampire accelerator have extra fast memory?


64 MB according to http://www.majsta.com/.

Quote from: Iggy;798752

And is it available now?


Two more weeks or, rather, read the web site above :).
 

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Re: New A600 accellerators
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2015, 10:47:07 PM »
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...Two more weeks...

 :).

Thanks, at least we all still have our sense of humor. :)
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Offline a1200Topic starter

Re: New A600 accellerators
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2015, 11:32:23 PM »
Perhaps someone could post a link on the amigaworld site for the folks there. I am banned from posting for a while longer.

I wonder if Amigakit and Vesalia etc would stock this board?
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Re: New A600 accellerators
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2015, 12:36:46 AM »
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And is it available now?


There's a pre-order thread on Amibay, it says the board will be available Q4 2015.
 

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Re: New A600 accellerators
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2015, 03:10:44 PM »
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64 MB according to http://www.majsta.com/.


How much RAM will "full HD" RTG on the HDMI require?
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Re: New A600 accellerators
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2015, 03:48:50 PM »
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How much RAM will "full HD" RTG on the HDMI require?


I would expect 1920x1080 to use at least 8 MB of memory. Majsta is more concerned with keeping his accelerators for 68000 Amigas affordable. Accelerators for the 1200, 3000(T), 4000(T), CD32 etc. should receive more memory.
 

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Re: New A600 accellerators
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2015, 09:04:32 PM »
@1200

I've submitted it on AW as a news item (after seeing it on here)

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