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Title: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: strim on September 12, 2010, 06:24:14 PM
Guys, check this out:

http://www.amiga-news.de/de/news/AN-2010-09-00024-DE.html

This is unofficial, but looks like Jens will be making new 68030 turbo cards for Amiga 600 and Amiga 1200! Some great news.
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: trekiej on September 12, 2010, 10:36:33 PM
That is nice of them.
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: VingtTrois on September 12, 2010, 10:43:09 PM
Quote from: strim;578967
Guys, check this out:

http://www.amiga-news.de/de/news/AN-2010-09-00024-DE.html

This is unofficial, but looks like Jens will be making new 68030 turbo cards for Amiga 600 and Amiga 1200! Some great news.

With no PPC module??? no OS4.x for us :-(
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: Argo on September 13, 2010, 02:12:13 AM
I'm betting a PPC would be harder and much more expensive to make.

I'll be interested to see the technical specs. Might be worth the upgrade from the GVP 40MHz 030.
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: Tripitaka on September 13, 2010, 03:29:52 AM
Good to see, Jens is a real Amiga hero and deserves our respect.
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: Darrin on September 13, 2010, 03:38:12 AM
Quote from: strim;578967
Guys, check this out:

http://www.amiga-news.de/de/news/AN-2010-09-00024-DE.html

This is unofficial, but looks like Jens will be making new 68030 turbo cards for Amiga 600 and Amiga 1200! Some great news.


If those prices are right then I can see a fair sized market for a EU99 card for those wanting to use WHDLoad and have an extra speed boost.  Add a Subway and an Indivision and you can have a very nice "wedge" computer at a reasonable cost.
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: kolla on September 13, 2010, 04:11:04 AM
WTF - I'm getting excited over a 030 card... I need to see a doctor :)
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: klx300r on September 13, 2010, 06:26:14 AM
Quote from: kolla;579036
WTF - I'm getting excited over a 030 card... I need to see a doctor :)

:laughing::roflmao:...heck my Blizzard 030 is one thing but I still get excited using my original C64 !..DOCTOR GET THE STRAPS READY
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: Colani1200 on September 13, 2010, 09:53:43 AM
A600 version would be great. I'd definetly buy 1 or 2 if he can keep the target price.
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: Karlos on September 13, 2010, 12:59:17 PM
Whilst I currently only own 040 boards, there's nothing wrong with a decent 030 card.
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: Colani1200 on September 13, 2010, 03:54:12 PM
A1200 prototype:

(http://www.a1k.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=29874&d=1284327013)

(http://www.a1k.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=29873&d=1284327000)

A600 prototype:

(http://www.a1k.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=29872&d=1284326319)

(http://www.a1k.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=29871&d=1284326306)

(As you can see on the photo, the CPU will definetely have to be soldered to the board to make it fit with Indivision ECS)
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: kolla on September 13, 2010, 04:06:32 PM
I do not get why it has to be soldered, considering all the empty space there is to the left on the card, it looks more like a re-arrangement of the layout is needed. Or simply just a slimmer connector on the Indivision. And on the A1200 version there is no excuse for not having it socketed. And where is the socket for the 68882? My excitement has dwindled, no need to see the doctor just yet :)

EDIT: OK, the A600 card shown is not the end product, but Jens still insists that CPU is soldered, also on A1200 versions, for other reasons, such as warranties, quartz replaced with programmed CPLD etc. Jens doesn't want people to fiddle with it.
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: cv643d on September 13, 2010, 04:33:19 PM
My interest gone up.. no need for socket IMHO, just add some mem. In my 060/AGA setup I never run out of mem with 16 MB, I think this one going to have 64?

I need to preorder that A600 version :)
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: kolla on September 13, 2010, 05:09:50 PM
Quote from: cv643d;579088
My interest gone up.. no need for socket IMHO, just add some mem. In my 060/AGA setup I never run out of mem with 16 MB, I think this one going to have 64?


Nothing is set in stone, but it seems like a 64MB model with 28MHz 030 and a 128MB model with a 56MHz 030 are "planned" for now. For A1200 that is. And the price for the low-end one is set to be 99,- euros, and 199,- euros for the high-end one (iirc).

Quote
I need to preorder that A600 version :)


This one is only 32MB and 28MHz 030 if I remember correctly.  For all the models it is still in the blue whether to use fully MMU enabled 68030 or just cheaper 68EC030, the question is whether there is any software around that makes use of the MMU. FPU is out, though. Also the RTC is not on board, but a socket will be present for those who would want one.

I personally would want MMU, at least on the "high end" version, for Linux and NetBSD use. But then I'd also want onboard ethernet :)
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: Colani1200 on September 13, 2010, 07:47:44 PM
Quote from: kolla;579093

This one is only 32MB and 28MHz 030 if I remember correctly.


Yes, that's the plan for the A600 version. Actually there's talk about 25 MHz. But this is more than enough to make the A600 usable. Of course WHDload comes to mind, maybe some IRC, FTP etc. aswell.

Quote

I personally would want MMU, at least on the "high end" version, for Linux and NetBSD use. But then I'd also want onboard ethernet

Umm... why? A1200 and A600 can both be fitted easily with a PCMCIA network card.
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: tone007 on September 13, 2010, 09:22:36 PM
I knew I left this A600 sitting around for a reason!
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: kolla on September 13, 2010, 09:24:45 PM
Quote from: Colani1200;579106
Umm... why? A1200 and A600 can both be fitted easily with a PCMCIA network card.


Bulkyness, the way the card sticks out, the fragile connectors on the extenders, the need for fix on A1200, the dongle that typically also has BNC still (due to the time those cards come from), the availability, the other uses for PCMCIA, all in all I'd much more prefer to have ethernet right there on the acc board.

But maybe it's just me. :)
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: cv643d on September 14, 2010, 12:20:06 AM
I was "this" close to snaging an Apollo 630 card for 4-500 euro couple of weeks ago :)

Whats next, an IComputers CD32 030/IDE/64MB expansion too? ;)
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: rkauer on September 14, 2010, 12:22:06 AM
And no change to upgrade the memory?
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: Darrin on September 14, 2010, 02:28:17 AM
Quote from: cv643d;579151
I was "this" close to snaging an Apollo 630 card for 4-500 euro couple of weeks ago :)

Whats next, an IComputers CD32 030/IDE/64MB expansion too? ;)


That's what I really like about Jens.  He's looks at the eBay type markets and works out what people are willing to pay for items and then produces a new product that undercuts the second hand market.  It is great business sense and it rewards the community with  working products.
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: XDelusion on September 14, 2010, 04:44:11 AM
Oh my God!!!

If a new 030 comes out for the 600...

Oh my God!!! :)
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: Xanxi on September 14, 2010, 07:59:32 AM
Quote from: cv643d;579151
I was "this" close to snaging an Apollo 630 card for 4-500 euro couple of weeks ago :)



The Apollo 630 is still better. Happy me, i have one (40 MHz full 030/68882/32 MB of RAM) :-)

A nice improvement would be the compatibility with the Indivision ECS, that the Apollo lacks.
There is also the 2 problems of the Apollo: dangerous position over the 68000 chip and heat inside the tiny A600.
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: Mr_DBUG on September 14, 2010, 07:30:05 PM
OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY !!!!

DROOLS !! The 99 Euro one is for me, now does this thing work on a 3.0 kickstart I wonder ?

And IF a IO expansion would come out for the CD32 Id go freaking crazy !!! :-D

Now, I wonder if the 56 MHZ one will be hot ? Or I might get that instead .. !
This product is a longtime seller ! He can make small reruns of this forever If he wants to.. :-)
There has to be a LOT of unexpanded A1200s out there..
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: Crom00 on September 14, 2010, 10:24:05 PM
It'd be awesome if there was a VGA chip on there so you'd have the ram, the cpu and gfx chip. Heck an FPGA socket would be nice. So enterprising users can program whatever perhipherals they want off the fpga...
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: Crom00 on September 14, 2010, 10:26:07 PM
That's what I really like about Jens. He's looks at the eBay type markets and works out what people are willing to pay for items and then produces a new product

Exactly supply and demand. Also these are made with modern parts. To be honest it's time for an Amiga on a chip solution. A super CPU card / FPGA exandable unit would be ideal.
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: XDelusion on September 15, 2010, 04:21:40 AM
That's what I'm thinking, a nice video card for the 1200 or 600. The Atari 8-bit has the VBXE, so why don't we got anything? :/
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: Tripitaka on September 15, 2010, 06:40:43 AM
Quote from: cv643d;579151

Whats next, an IComputers CD32 030/IDE/64MB expansion too? ;)


...and I'll be in the queue for that one. Please Jens, that would be a must have for any self respecting CD32 owner.
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: Tripitaka on September 15, 2010, 06:42:36 AM
@XDelusion
I know it's off topic but I have to say:
Your avatar gives me nightmares, it's so damn scary.
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: XDelusion on September 15, 2010, 08:29:26 PM
Tripitaka: I get that a lot! :)


So how are we to know if this hardware is really coming or not? I'd hate to not be a on some elusive mailing list and miss out like I did on the A608.
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: beller on September 16, 2010, 08:31:40 PM
Quote from: XDelusion;579608
Tripitaka: I get that a lot! :)


So how are we to know if this hardware is really coming or not? I'd hate to not be a on some elusive mailing list and miss out like I did on the A608.


How do you know if it's really coming, short answer, you don't.  Not until you can put one in a shopping cart and give them your credit card.  I usually keep an eye on amigakit.com myself.

Bob
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: jsixis on September 16, 2010, 10:51:25 PM
Quote from: klx300r;579046
:laughing::roflmao:...heck my Blizzard 030 is one thing but I still get excited using my original C64 !..DOCTOR GET THE STRAPS READY


I get excited reading about ethernet connections for the 64
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: amigau on September 22, 2010, 12:05:39 AM
This sounds great - EXCEPT - you will likely need an upgraded PSU to go with that computer once you have the new CPU card installed.  Take it from someone who's had an A1200 with the otherwise excellent Microbiotics 030/50 + 32mb RAM - great card but you will have all sorts of weird, flaky problems without the upgraded PSU.  Which means you will likely have to 'violate' the connector from either an A600, A500 or A1200 existing PSU - the actual power generation can come from a modified PC one correctly wired to that connector.

I also had an accelerated 030/50 A600 for some time and same deal.

The A500 PSU reportedly has a bit more oomph than the stock A600 or A1200 PSU, but it's still not enough.

great that he's doing this!

amigau
http://www.amigau.com
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: jsixis on September 22, 2010, 12:38:35 AM
I agree to that, I use an old A2000 power supply for my 1200


Quote from: amigau;580594
This sounds great - EXCEPT - you will likely need an upgraded PSU to go with that computer once you have the new CPU card installed.  Take it from someone who's had an A1200 with the otherwise excellent Microbiotics 030/50 + 32mb RAM - great card but you will have all sorts of weird, flaky problems without the upgraded PSU.  Which means you will likely have to 'violate' the connector from either an A600, A500 or A1200 existing PSU - the actual power generation can come from a modified PC one correctly wired to that connector.

I also had an accelerated 030/50 A600 for some time and same deal.

The A500 PSU reportedly has a bit more oomph than the stock A600 or A1200 PSU, but it's still not enough.

great that he's doing this!

amigau
http://www.amigau.com
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: desiv on September 22, 2010, 03:33:35 AM
Quote from: amigau;580594
The A500 PSU reportedly has a bit more oomph than the stock A600 or A1200 PSU, but it's still not enough.

Really?  I'd always heard that the best (well, not best, but most recommended) solution was to use an A500 PSU...

Is this really not enough?
I think the A1200 PSU was 23-25Watts and the A500 is around 60Watts??

I'm OK with making a franken-PSU, but didn't think I'd need to as I have an A500 PSU.

desiv
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: Retrofan on October 14, 2010, 10:00:22 PM
You didn't want to change it because you haven't seen my franken-"stock" PSU, with 145 watts.
In the photos still wasn't the fan, which is very very silent... you don't notice at all.
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: Retrofan on November 10, 2010, 07:00:38 PM
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       http://www.vesalia.de/
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: Mr_DBUG on November 27, 2010, 03:39:57 AM
I have two modified 350 watt PC PSU for my main A1200s ! From AmigaKIT, only thing that sucks is that their fan blows all the time .. :-S And ruins an otherwise quiet Amiga experience .. Btw, Anyone know if its safe to use an A1200 stock PSU for an A500 ? (only expanded with a 512KB ram and possibly external floppy ?)
Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
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Title: Re: New turbo cards coming from Individual Computers?
Post by: runequester on December 08, 2010, 08:28:19 AM
Crossing fingers that my order for the 1230/56 went through.

I just placed the order and now its gone from the site, so hoping I managed to land the last one :)

Christmas is going to be amiga this year