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Offline pyrreTopic starter

making own ROM's
« on: October 21, 2018, 06:09:30 PM »
Hello.
I put this topic here since it regards making roms...

I have searched for the topic the last few days. but i cant find any real related topic. (perhaps i suck at searching....)
anyways...

I recently purchased os 3.1.4 and try to install it to my A500+ but it gives me quite a challenge. The derringer has a hardware option to store rom in fastram.
Using the - D3 drom - option makes the hardware copy rom data to ram. but i find no option to spesify rom from a file. making it (so far) impossible to put 3.1.4 rom in use on my A500+ setup. I need an actual rom replacement.

If i am correct this should be able to program a 40 pin rom chip.

But i struggle finding the actual rom chips...
This chip has come recomended in many of the threads. But it is 42 pin....

Can anyone here put me in the right direction please?
(to a proper programmer and proper chips)

EDIT: Derringer 030 manual
« Last Edit: October 21, 2018, 06:11:10 PM by pyrre »
Amiga 1200 Tower Os 3.9
BPPC 603e+ 040-25/200, 256MBram, BVIsionPPC, Indivision AGA MK2.
Amiga 2000 (rev 4.0) Os 1.2/1.3
2088 bridgeboard, 2MB ram card, 2091 SCSI.
Amiga 500+ Os 2.1
Derringer 030, 32MBram, Buddha in sidecar, Indivision ECS.
Amiga CD32
Video decoder
 

Offline kolla

Re: making own ROM's
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2018, 06:54:55 PM »
Clearly this is a case for the Hyperion support staff.
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A3000/060CSPPC+CVPPC/128MB + 256MB BigRAM/Deneb USB
A4000/CS060/Mediator4000Di/Voodoo5/128MB
A1200/Blz1260/IndyAGA/192MB
A1200/Blz1260/64MB
A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
A600/A6095
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM440 and Mac minis with MorphOS
 

guest11527

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Re: making own ROM's
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2018, 07:13:48 PM »
Clearly this is a case for the Hyperion support staff.
Clearly not. The distribution as it exists now uses LoadModule to load updated Os components. I do not see where anyone promised that the average "map ROM to RAM" feature multiple turbo boards provide is capable to load a new custom ROM, including its manufacturer.

These simple ROM remappers are board-specific, and are typically only able to map the currently active ROM to RAM. Anything else requires heavy hackery for which only the manufacturer could provide a solution.
 

Offline pyrreTopic starter

Re: making own ROM's
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2018, 07:39:23 PM »
Yea... no problem on the A1200 with blizzkick.....
Should work just fine. have not had time to come around and tinker with the 1200 yet.

the A500 is set up and in use quite often. and i would like to upgrade it properly :D
Amiga 1200 Tower Os 3.9
BPPC 603e+ 040-25/200, 256MBram, BVIsionPPC, Indivision AGA MK2.
Amiga 2000 (rev 4.0) Os 1.2/1.3
2088 bridgeboard, 2MB ram card, 2091 SCSI.
Amiga 500+ Os 2.1
Derringer 030, 32MBram, Buddha in sidecar, Indivision ECS.
Amiga CD32
Video decoder
 

Offline kolla

Re: making own ROM's
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2018, 11:27:47 PM »
Next we are told that noone ever promises actual ROM chips with 3.1.4 kickstart and that we all should just use LoadModule?
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A3000/060CSPPC+CVPPC/128MB + 256MB BigRAM/Deneb USB
A4000/CS060/Mediator4000Di/Voodoo5/128MB
A1200/Blz1260/IndyAGA/192MB
A1200/Blz1260/64MB
A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
A600/A6095
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM440 and Mac minis with MorphOS
 

Offline smf

Re: making own ROM's
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2018, 07:24:13 AM »
You can buy the chips and have it programmed from http://www.buyicnow.com/

Programming service costs $0.5 for each chip http://www.buyicnow.com/ser.php?i=1

Suitable eproms http://www.buyicnow.com/it.php?i=98 



 
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Offline kirk_m

Re: making own ROM's
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2018, 09:06:41 PM »
AM27C400 UV EPROM, from what I recall, is what you need.  I just bought 10 of them on eBay 2 weeks ago.
-/- A500 & ACA500 & ACA1233n -/- A500 Tower & VAMPiRE II 500+ -/- A2000 & BLiZZARD 2060 -/- A3000 & CYBERSTORM MKII 040 -/- A1200 & BLiZZARD 1230 MK IV -/- A1200 & BLiZZARD 1260 -/- A4000 & 3640 -/-
 
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Offline pyrreTopic starter

Re: making own ROM's
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2018, 09:30:09 PM »
Do i need any special programmer, or will the linked one work?
Amiga 1200 Tower Os 3.9
BPPC 603e+ 040-25/200, 256MBram, BVIsionPPC, Indivision AGA MK2.
Amiga 2000 (rev 4.0) Os 1.2/1.3
2088 bridgeboard, 2MB ram card, 2091 SCSI.
Amiga 500+ Os 2.1
Derringer 030, 32MBram, Buddha in sidecar, Indivision ECS.
Amiga CD32
Video decoder
 

Offline Louis Dias

Re: making own ROM's
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2018, 09:41:43 PM »
Here's the one I bought a few years ago for my car tuning:

https://www.moates.net/burn2-chip-programmer-p-197.html
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: making own ROM's
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2018, 10:28:38 PM »
Here is a question:

If someone started mass producing these ROM chips, charging nothing more than raw materials cost (+ a few bucks for their time), but just so that people who want them could have them, what is the likelihood Hyperion would squash them?  ::)
Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
 Amiga videos and other misc. stuff at https://www.youtube.com/CompTechMike/videos
 

Offline pyrreTopic starter

Re: making own ROM's
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2018, 11:13:10 PM »
the programmer you linked to can only write to chips with 32 pins... A500 rom chips are 40 pins
Amiga 1200 Tower Os 3.9
BPPC 603e+ 040-25/200, 256MBram, BVIsionPPC, Indivision AGA MK2.
Amiga 2000 (rev 4.0) Os 1.2/1.3
2088 bridgeboard, 2MB ram card, 2091 SCSI.
Amiga 500+ Os 2.1
Derringer 030, 32MBram, Buddha in sidecar, Indivision ECS.
Amiga CD32
Video decoder
 

Offline pyrreTopic starter

Re: making own ROM's
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2018, 11:15:05 PM »
I dont think they would be happy about it....

but why not contact them and ask... maybe offer them a fee or aquire a lisence from them to do just that......
Amiga 1200 Tower Os 3.9
BPPC 603e+ 040-25/200, 256MBram, BVIsionPPC, Indivision AGA MK2.
Amiga 2000 (rev 4.0) Os 1.2/1.3
2088 bridgeboard, 2MB ram card, 2091 SCSI.
Amiga 500+ Os 2.1
Derringer 030, 32MBram, Buddha in sidecar, Indivision ECS.
Amiga CD32
Video decoder
 

Offline madgrizzle

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Re: making own ROM's
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2018, 01:03:52 PM »
What's holding up Hyperion releasing the ROMs themselves?
Only Amiga *woo-woo* Makes It Possible
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Amiga 2000, 2MB Chip RAM, OS3.9, GVP Combo 030/22 13 MB, Supra 4MB
Amiga 3000, 16 MB RAM, OS3.9, A3640 v3.2 with 060 Processor, Picasso II, A2065, PCD-50B
Dead VA2000/CX :(
 

guest11527

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Re: making own ROM's
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2018, 02:40:32 PM »
Lack of infrastructure. You need to order ROMs from a reliable(!) source, need to burn them and ship them.
 

Offline outlawal2

Re: making own ROM's
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2018, 02:55:06 PM »
Any ETA on when the ROMs and floppy sets will be available for purchase?