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Title: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: Boot_WB on April 01, 2007, 01:29:57 AM
ACube Systems Srl is pleased to announce the completion of Sam440ep project.

The board is actually available for selected industrial customers in three different configurations of the AMCC 440ep processor: 400Mhz with 128MB onboard memory, 533Mhz with 256MB onboard memory and 667Mhz with 512MB onboard memory.

On demand it is possible to customize the board with a number of options: cctalk, DiskOnChip, SmartMedia connector, LVDS port, DIMM 100 slot, variable FPGA size from 5.8 KLuts to 19.7 Kluts.

The porting of a number of Operating Systems has already begun.

For further informations please write to info@acube-systems.com
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: Argo on April 01, 2007, 01:58:26 AM
From the ACube RSSfeed:  On the official site, on the product page, the UBoot log and PCI scan result of Sam440ep have been published.

http://www.sam440.com/eng/products.html
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: drewz21 on April 01, 2007, 03:09:59 AM
Great, great, great news!!!
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: XDelusion on April 01, 2007, 05:36:12 AM
So...
...I did a search on the page for the word Amiga, as is OS 4...

...came up with nothing.

 How is this relevant to Amiga? Oh there are boing balls on the page...???

 And what does "reserved for industrial customers" mean? Is that to say that it is not available to the average joe Amiga fanatic (assuming it actually will run Amiga)?
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: weirdami on April 01, 2007, 07:34:02 AM
AAA, ACubed.. get it? :-) That's probably not it, but I gave it a shot.  :-D
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: XDelusion on April 01, 2007, 08:20:51 AM
Oh that would be interesting!

Speaking of AAA, wasn't the dude who cloned the Amiga chip sets going to have a crack at duplicating the AAA chip set down the road.

 Off topic, but ya, you brought it to mind. :)
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: jj on April 01, 2007, 10:17:50 AM
mmmmmmmmmmmmm  whats  the date today
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: XDelusion on April 01, 2007, 10:19:25 AM
That would be one rude joke if it is!
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: derringer3 on April 01, 2007, 10:36:42 AM
Now i have only 3 question:

-What will be the price?
-When will it be shipped with OS4?
-Can this be used for business solutions?
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: derringer3 on April 01, 2007, 10:38:55 AM
About april's fools: On Acube's site the date is yesterday. (e.g. 31/03/2007)
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: ptek on April 01, 2007, 11:59:58 AM
I doubt it's a joke. If in these days, some Amiga company would joke on the Amiga, it would loose automatically all the possible future clients :)

Another question : what about power consumption ?
I didn't found nothing about it on the site...
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: redrumloa on April 01, 2007, 12:02:12 PM
Taken on face value alone, that this is not an April fools joke.. Congrats for finishing the board.

Curiously abscent is what OSes are being ported. Obviously, Hyperion OS4 is *not* one of them.
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: Comi on April 01, 2007, 01:14:11 PM
Third parties not announce yet availability of hardware with OS4 and thats it... Shame
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: dammy on April 01, 2007, 01:19:33 PM
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Curiously abscent is what OSes are being ported. Obviously, Hyperion OS4 is *not* one of them.


Be pretty funny if AROS was ported to it before OS4 (officially sanctioned).

Dammy
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: XDelusion on April 01, 2007, 02:42:59 PM
And what's that HUGE ATI chip on the board exactly?

 Ya, my bets are that we'll see MorphOS and AROS on it before OS4.

 On the other hand I've never had a chance to touch OS4 and I don't think anyone in Tucson even owns an Amiga, let alone a MorphOS compatable machine, so who knows...

...maybe MorphOS is good enough that I don't need OS4. Maybe I'll find out if I get a Efika and MorphOS comes out with there update as promised.
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: Acill on April 01, 2007, 03:12:33 PM
I can vouch that MorphOS is good enough to use and not wish you had OS4 instead. I have no plans to ever get an OS4 system so long as they are priced the way they were the last time you could get one.

MorphOS does everything it can do, and I would say just as well if not better in areas too.

Who made this new board? Is it another Chinese company that someone licensed to have boards made from a design, then plan to call it something else and charge 10X the price for?
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: Edpon on April 01, 2007, 08:27:13 PM
Hey all,
  Well, you do have to give credit where credit is due. These guys have at least been pretty active this whole month on the board and keeping us all updated as well. I wouldn't be surprised if sometime soon we see which OS's will be compatible with this. Considering how long we've all waited for anything new for the "Amiga", motherboard or any other hardware wise, I'd say we've all got something to look forward to getting real soon. As for Genesi and their Efika; I've contacted Bill and Raquel on when their system would have been released, with the next Morp OS. I was told sometime in March. Well, there's still no update on their website, nor did I get an e-mail giving me a heads-up on when it might come out. I'm not complaining though, because both are pretty nice people to me and most likely they have been pretty busy with their business, so I'l be patient and wait. Either way, * ACill, I believe even if we have multiple systems to use for Amiga, that's a good thing. Support both if you can; the potential each might show is worth looking at. The only way we'll get Amiga support back is if we suppurt them. That's just my 2 cents though. Thanks.

Ed
 :-)
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: humppa on April 01, 2007, 08:51:07 PM
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Is it another Chinese company that someone licensed to have boards made from a design, then plan to call it something else and charge 10X the price for?


No, it's an Italian company called ACube (hint: link in first post). The design is loosely based on the Yosemite board of AMCC. Don't confuse ACube with Troika, they play in different leagues. Well, I think Troika is dead anyway, so it doesn't really matter anymore.
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: ikir on April 01, 2007, 09:52:01 PM
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Obviously, Hyperion OS4 is *not* one of them.


Don't speak as you know things, you really don't have a clue about.
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: ikir on April 01, 2007, 09:54:15 PM
@Acill

The products is Italian and these guys are working hard on it and spending a lot of money and time. But hey, you claim MOS is better than OS4, do you really care? No, so stop your propaganda.
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: SamuraiCrow on April 01, 2007, 10:00:44 PM
Taken from news article above:
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The porting of a number of Operating Systems has already begun.


How do we know that more than one Amiga-like Operating System won't be ported to it?
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: redrumloa on April 01, 2007, 10:02:18 PM
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Don't speak as you know things, you really don't have a clue about.


You again  :roll:
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: redrumloa on April 01, 2007, 10:04:04 PM
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The products is Italian and these guys are working hard on it and spending a lot of money and time. But hey, you claim MOS is better than OS4, do you really care? No, so stop your propaganda.


BTW, are you an official spokesperson from Acube?
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: humppa on April 01, 2007, 10:18:10 PM
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How do we know that more than one Amiga-like Operating System won't be ported to it?


There hasn't been _any_ mention of _any_ Amiga or Amiga-like OS on their website in conjunction with Samantha. All that we can assume from the tests that have been published is that it runs Linux.
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: SamuraiCrow on April 01, 2007, 10:54:42 PM
We can assume it runs Linux only because that is the most financially viable option.  In an IRC interview on AmigaWorld.net there was a mention of wanting as many operating systems as possible running on it.
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: Piru on April 01, 2007, 10:58:36 PM
@ikir
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Don't speak as you know things, you really don't have a clue about.

Why not? Does anyone else have any clue?

If you have any facts to contribute, feel free to do so. Otherwise "don't speak as you know things, you really don't have a clue about".
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: Piru on April 01, 2007, 10:59:32 PM
@ikir
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stop your propaganda

Pot, kettle.

As far as I can tell your propaganda moves haven't met with much success on other sites lately, either.
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: redfox on April 01, 2007, 11:05:22 PM
:popcorn:
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: Agafaster on April 02, 2007, 08:29:49 AM
aaahhhh good ol' popcorn !
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: Agafaster on April 02, 2007, 08:38:47 AM
Thats great news !
They did say that they would make some announcements, and I seem to remember something about 'before the end of March'. Just in the nick then !
oh - and it only says 'initial run reserved for industrial partners'. read the words
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: humppa on April 02, 2007, 08:45:51 AM
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oh - and it only says 'initial run reserved for industrial partners'. read the words


So I take it you'll buy it when it runs Linux and is available to end customers?
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: derringer3 on April 02, 2007, 08:52:22 AM
Last week they made alliance with hyperion. See the forest behind the tree... They will at least try to port os4 on it.
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: humppa on April 02, 2007, 08:56:06 AM
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They will at least try to port os4 on it.


You're making it sound as if it was one hell of a job to port OS4 to a AMCC 440ep with Radeon Gfx. It isn't.
It doesn't matter too much if Hyperion has already ported it or not. All that matters is if they can find a license agreement with Amiga Inc.
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: Agafaster on April 02, 2007, 09:46:44 AM
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So I take it you'll buy it when it runs Linux and is available to end customers?


I wouldnt if I were you - I already have an A1XE.

although once it runs OS4 I could be tempted if the price were right...
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: Agafaster on April 02, 2007, 09:52:24 AM
derringer3 wrote:
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Last week they made alliance with hyperion. See the forest behind the tree... They will at least try to port os4 on it.


now there you go y'see, you're reading things in that arent there.
if anything it proves that ACube and Hyperion can do business together. for that you need ACube, Hyperion and Amiga Inc to be able to do business together.
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: enjajamos on April 02, 2007, 03:56:02 PM
It looks like amigaworld.net has verified the post, they have bumped it to the top of their front page [d]and changed the posts date[/d].
EDIT:they didn't cange the posts date, -don't know where i got that from.
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: redfox on April 02, 2007, 05:35:54 PM
(Now that April Fool's day is over ...)

Congratulations Max and everyone on the ACube/SAM team!

---
redfox
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: Wilse on April 02, 2007, 06:15:27 PM
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I can vouch that MorphOS is good enough to use and not wish you had OS4 instead. I have no plans to ever get an OS4 system so long as they are priced the way they were the last time you could get one.

MorphOS does everything it can do, and I would say just as well if not better in areas too.


As a counter to that, I should point out that, having both MOS and OS4, I haven't switched on my Peg for about 3 months (although I intend to tonight) due mainly to my impression that OS4 actually does most things more elegantly, although I admit this is subjective.

That said, I tend to do most of my work in OSX these days.
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: skalogre on April 02, 2007, 06:59:29 PM
Hey, some of us in Tucson DO have an Amiga. Granted I am down to my A1200 and UAE gets more time nowadays but still  :-D

Anyhow, it will be interesting to see if any actual OS4 hardware comes out of this...
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: XDelusion on April 02, 2007, 10:53:15 PM
HOLY Crap, a fellow Amiga User out here!!! I just moved here not long ago, and the weather is great!

Herbs expensive though! :/
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: Methuselas on April 02, 2007, 11:50:51 PM
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HOLY Crap, a fellow Amiga User out here!!! I just moved here not long ago, and the weather is great!

Herbs expensive though! :/



And a felony, regardless of quantity, so I hear.  ;-)
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: XDelusion on April 03, 2007, 12:35:27 AM
I'm going to have to research that. I can't realy see a cop bothering with it considering all the Meth heads there are around here.
 
"It's a waste of tax payer's dollars" a cop once told me. :)

 Last I heard you can purchase a license from the state to grow a limited amount, but that could have changed over the past few years or only been a rumour.

 Wow, I'm really going off topic here, sorry!

Amiga amiga amiga! ;o)
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: redrumloa on April 03, 2007, 02:35:35 AM
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Wow, I'm really going off topic here, sorry!


Yes and you are flirting with the TOS ;-)
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: XDelusion on April 03, 2007, 03:19:17 AM
What's a TOS?
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: Argo on April 03, 2007, 04:26:06 AM
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What's a TOS?

That thing they called an OS on the Atari.

Though what Red is referring to is all the links under Legal Information to the left in the Main Menu. Read them.... especially the Posting Guidelines (http://www.amiga.org/modules/sections/index.php?op=viewarticle&artid=6)

Specificly, this one:
No posting about illegal activities
If you get drunk, that's fine. If you use drugs, that's fine. The moderators of this site aren't here to be your mother. We will not however tolerate excessive posting promoting drug use or other illegal activities. It's not funny, it's annoying, and it's unacceptable. Moderators are free to use their discretion up to and including banning the account of the person responsible.
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: XDelusion on April 03, 2007, 06:17:17 AM
I was wondering what Atari TOS had against organics.

My apologies. :)
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: Agafaster on April 03, 2007, 02:07:48 PM
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That thing they called an OS on the Atari.


Yup. TOS by name, toss by nature...!
Title: Re: Sam 440 project completed
Post by: XDelusion on April 03, 2007, 11:02:17 PM
I've always wondered why they didn't just call it POS?

 Ok yes, see I'm trying to be funny here, was being serious before, see the diff? ;)