Anubis, Icaros, and XAmiga...

[Piru]

@dammy

charity OS

MOS.

What's charity about MorphOS exactly? And why this name calling, have I missed something?

Those two I could easily see be threatened by Anubis-OS in the coming years.

I don't agree here. The target audiences are somewhat different: MorphOS is PPC, Anubis x86. MorphOS runs amiga apps directly, Anubis doesn't.

Both could easily co-exist (obviously assuming here that Anubis reaches maturity).

[Piru]

@dammy

Your forgetting ARM for Anubis-OS and probably PPC (SAM and EFIKA I) as well.

I don't get the idea of running AROS or Anubis on anything else than x86 (ARM could make sense assuming some cheap & powerful ARM HW comes along), or how it would somehow "threaten" MorphOS. Typically MorphOS users have already invested on special HW to run MorphOS, so it would seem a bit silly to throw that away.

I'd still like to hear about this "charity" thing and the general feeling of hostility I'm seeing. Or am I just reading too much into things here?

[Piru]

@dammy

What none main stream OS are you paying money for that isn't selling in the hundreds of thousands?

How does it make it charity?

[Piru]

@dammy

I would most certainly call paying for a tiny hobby OS that is not economically viable an act of charity.

So equally, you think that paying developers via bounty system is charity aswell?

[Piru]

@dammy

Others may say they are a commercial OS, the sad numbers of paying customers prove they are economically unviable and more charity then anything else.

I still find it insulting, especially the way you put it forward earlier.

It is true however that the income from the MorphOS licenses doesn't even remotely cover the development costs of the OS. But that has been the case for over a decade and personally I don't have any problem with that. MorphOS isn't there to make a profit. It's a hobby more than anything else I'd say, and quite ambitious one, too. The license cost applied to MorphOS 2.x is there to cover the costs of the support infrastructure, the new HW for future developments and so on. I object to labeling that as charity.

Personally I find the MorphOS licensing model quite ok, at least you can try the OS without being forced to buy it. This will work even better once the OS will be available to wider range of affordable HW (read: Mac Mini G4).

[Piru]

@dammy

it's charity OS that has no possible future of being profitable enough to pay it's employees and contractors.

Excuse me sir, but what what the feck are you talking about?

Didn't you get it? This is not a business, it's a hobby. There is no profit to make. What employees and contractors are you talking about exactly?

Finally, could you please quote properly?

[Piru]

@dammy

Which makes it a charity.

No, I think it does not.

But hey I think this conversation is quite pointless. You're using whatever argument that fits your agenda: Either MorphOS is a) unable to pay employees and contractors or b) charity. I say we're not charity, nor are we making MorphOS for money. Obviously that is something you're unwilling to accept.

I don't really understand what your motives are, but clearly they have nothing to do with AROS (Icaros) or Anubis. If you wish to continue this conversation please send a private message to me or email me at sintonen@iki.fi.