PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource

[stefcep2]

You will not get any information now that it has been handed over to AndreasM, for inclusion with AF.  Its not FREE any more, its been given lock stock and barrel to AmigaFuture.

AndreasM has stated in a (Now Deleted by AndreasM) post on EAB, that it is a NON-EXCLUSIVE release on the coverdisk of AF, but Pelt asked him *NOT* to put it up for free on the download section of the website.  Given that Pelt Intends (or Intended) to upload it to Aminet, why would he all of a sudden deny the files being HOSTED, FOR FREE download from the AF website.

Once again, AndreasM is doing some crap talking, after all, why come out of the closet and state that it is NON EXCLUSIVE, then go back and delete all the text from the post ?

Sounds very ambiguous to me.  Pelt may not have wanted PFS3 on AF website for a lot of reasons, none of which mean that PFS3 will not be available for free on websites like Aminet.

best wait until Pelt actually makes a statement on PFS3

[Gulliver]

I just got a reply from Michiel, here it is:


Re: PFS3
Monday, May 31, 2010 11:09 AM
From:
"Michiel Pelt"
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"Ignacio"
> Thank you for letting me know. I just wanted to ask you two things:
> 1-Are you still going to release the PFS3 cdrom on Aminet, so that it becomes publicly availble?

Not exactly. First of all, the CD ROM also contains Kang Fu, which
will not be included. Secondly, the PFS3 on the CD is a commercial
release, with serial number registration etc. I will remove this and
make some other changes to reflect that it is a public domain release.
Since this takes some time, and you are all waiting so eagerly, I
decided to agree to publish PFS3 as is on the coverdisk of Amiga
Future. In other words: on the Amiga Future coverdisk you get a
licensed copy of the commercial PFS3 for free, on Aminet there will be
a public domain distribution of PFS3.

> 2-How is the work on the sources going?

It is just a matter that needs some of my time, which is rather
limited at the moment.

Best regards

Michiel Pelt

[TheBilgeRat]

Thanks, Gulliver!  This illuminates the issue sufficently for me .

[ZeBeeDee]

I bet $20 somebody will buy AF just for PFS3 and then "accidently" upload it somewhere, serial and all then let slip where to download it

[motrucker]

Well, it seems this subject has brought some debate.

First, let me clarify my intentions which have remained the same since the begining of this PFS3 affair....
I already own, since a few years, a legal copy of PFS3, and so basicly, all I wanted is to ask the...
It was just an act of good will from an Amiga fan

I am truly sorry if some of you feel that I had taken the wrong decision regarding the fact that I gave the email address of Mr. Pelt to AndreasM. But I thought it was a step in the right direction (making PFS3 availble), perhaps I was too naive, I really dont know.

Bottomline: I know PFS3 will be released both as binary and sourcecode, for free, for everyone, as intended. It will just be a matter of time. And the rest, well, it is upto you to be the judge.

Naive is an understatement! But we can't blame you, since you didn't know.. The problem is, that now PFS3 is dead. We will never see a PD release, AF will see to that.

[sbeehre]

I bet $20 somebody will buy AF just for PFS3 and then "accidently" upload it somewhere, serial and all then let slip where to download it

i think that's what exactly what should happen

[Gulliver]

Naive is an understatement! But we can't blame you, since you didn't know.. The problem is, that now PFS3 is dead. We will never see a PD release, AF will see to that.

You seem to have missed Michiel last email, just above, where he confirms the opposite.

[Gulliver]

i think that's what exactly what should happen

While I undertsand how you feel, and I personally have an open mind regarding software piracy/abandonware, I believe that it could have a negative impact on the process of getting the sourcecode of PFS3 publicly available. So please before doing that, be aware of the implications.

At the end, we will get something better than what Amiga Fututre will offer, it is just that we will have to wait a little bit longer.

But then, it is your call.

[sbeehre]

While I undertsand how you feel, and I personally have an open mind regarding software piracy/abandonware, I believe that it could have a negative impact on the process of getting the sourcecode of PFS3 publicly available. So please before doing that, be aware of the implications.

At the end, we will get something better than what Amiga Fututre will offer, it is just that we will have to wait a little bit longer.

But then, it is your call.

just to make it clear i wont be doing it but wouldnt have a problem with it if it happened

[whiteb]

You seem to have missed Michiel last email, just above, where he confirms the opposite.

You seem to have missed everyone's argument here, this is AndreasM we are talking about.

What Pelt has said, and what AndreasM *THINKS* are TWO entirely different things.  Going by AndreasM's previous history.

Andreas will be making a Monetary reward from the sale of the Coverdisks, off of the back of your efforts in negotiating with Pelt.., Has Andreas given you any reward (Even a FREE copy of the edition in question) for your effort, that he *WILL* be profiting from ?

[kolla]

I see a great danger here. Different factions creating their own, incompatible versions.

That has more to do with egotripping socially incompatible amiga developers than with making anything Open Source.

[Fats]

Thanks, Gulliver!  This illuminates the issue sufficently for me .

For me too but I'm sure this won't stop whiteb's quest against AndreasM.

greets,
Staf.

[krashan]

What Pelt has said, and what AndreasM *THINKS* are TWO entirely different things.

It looks like you've succesfully designed and constructed a mind reading device ;-).

[broken]

So, any update on availability of PFS3?

[whiteb]

So, any update on availability of PFS3?

Nope, only that AF got an authority from Pelt to include PFS on an edition of AF, then all other "Releases", which included Aminet suddenly died in the ass.

[broken]

Nope, only that AF got an authority from Pelt to include PFS on an edition of AF...

Like I said, any word on its "availability".