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Re: AmigaONE or Pegasos, which one will it be sir?
« on: October 19, 2002, 10:09:25 AM »
"A1-SE (without OS4) is planned for December, "

Where do you get this one from? #morphos?

I dont see you on the a1g3 dev list Kronos.
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Re: AmigaONE or Pegasos, which one will it be sir?
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2002, 10:23:29 AM »
@Kronos

I don't think you can really base much on what you have seen so far.

From my own knowledge ( and I cant back this up with publically available facts ) there are just two things standing in the way of AOS4.0 being completed for A1G3.

OTOH Hyperion have said December, Alan has said December. We can be cynical about those dates as much as we like.

Perhaps we will also see a non beta MorphOS and Pegasos by December too.

@those that claimed that the Teron CX has been "working for two years"

Really? You don't know much do you? Being in existance != working - as we have seen with the Pegasos which still is not working to the level of bug free reliability that Thendic wants.
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Re: AmigaONE or Pegasos, which one will it be sir?
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2002, 10:49:24 AM »
"Christmas is only 2 months away."
Oh sh!t Ive got presents to buy.

"Producing the CD and boxes does take some time."
4 days.

"Hyperion haven't even shown a working alpha on a CS_PPC (emphasis on PPC)."
To the public.

"Big project NEVER work by just putting some (tested) pieces together."
Duuh thats why you have integration testing.  ;-)

"Decent betatesting of "the real thing" does take months (thats what MOS is doing
right now)."
Well depends, if it has been betatested in a sandbox
to a level of component reliability and everyone was working to the same spec then there is a good chance that the only task left is integration testing and bug testing.

"Hyperion are not the kind of guys that would keep something working hidden
esspacially not in a competetive situation. "
Speculation and not fact.

"Hyperion has been talking about
OS4 in December, and it has been quite a while since Ben talked about OS4_4_A1
in December."
Its been a long while since Ben talked about anything in public other than navel gazing with trolls over minute technical details on ANN.

"A somewhat working alpha running on exactly one A4000-config is the best I would
expect to see in Aachen (early December)."
You may be right. You may be wrong. I don't expect to see a production quality MorphOS in December in the same way as I didnt expect to say it in May ( prior deadline ) or in February ( prior deadline ) or....

"Well the TeronCX HAS existed some time before the A1, and it was even running
Linux."
Oh yes, it ran Linux but how well and for how long? Anyone else remember?

" Removing a few HW-bugs and replacing parts with newer models is good,  but not really exiting."
But makes a significant difference. You earlier stated that migrating 68k to PPC means that you have a big testing effort ahead of you and bug extraction ( paraphrased but that was the import. I put it to you that the upgrade caused a similar testing effort and if you were on the A1G3 mailing list you would know yet more.

"The Pegasos_HW in the mATX-version has been working since allmost a year,"
According to Thendic it has been bug ridden and unreliable. In their so called "press releases".

"and had reached final status this summer."
Hmmm so "working" has a low burden of proof when
its the Pegasos? Final status -> removed most of the problems.

" It's the SW (MorphOS/Ambient/BIOS)
that are not 100% consumer-ready."

Oh so MOS have not got a reliable BIOS then? ;-)

One up for Hyperion and the lads behind PPCBoot.

You see none of this helps anyone. Lets stick to the FUDBUSTER as its pretty good.
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Re: AmigaONE or Pegasos, which one will it be sir?
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2002, 11:08:39 AM »
@Kronos

Yeah,

"The priot MOS-deadline were still based on the (stupid) idea of using
an AmigaOS-WB, and a full OS including WB-replacement has been
announced for late 02 since mid 01."

The first part I agree with and is an interesting insight.

The second part hmmm... not according to Thendic but then they don't have much credibility with me either. Slightly less than Mr Hermans ;-)
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Re: AmigaONE or Pegasos, which one will it be sir?
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2002, 11:44:07 AM »
No. Neither the Pegasos or the A1 are end user systems yet.

Patience.
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Re: AmigaONE or Pegasos, which one will it be sir?
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2002, 12:02:43 PM »
I agree. Which is why I slagged off the 1000 UKP Power Tower IV system that I bought from Power Computing that required #### loads of work on it to get it to boot.

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