Wolfenstein 3D IS technically possible on stock A500 shocker!

[Tempest]

I love my 64 and Plus/4 like they are my own children.

I'm tempted to buy an Atari 800 one of these days though.

The Atari 8bit is a very cool computer, it was my second computer and I always regret selling it to get a c64.

I've got one now expanded with 256K, Super Video upgrade and a SIO2SD which I put in a 1064 memory expansion case.

[Franko]

More about porting that superfast engine and tacking on Wolf3D graphics. Wouldn't be bothered about the actual game.

Just a nice two fingered salute @ 386 PC fanboys :roflmao:

Ahh... I understand now... nice idea... I like it...

[Digiman]

In the 8bit scenes people accept that the past has passed and just enjoy the hardware for what it is.

Unlike some of the loonies we get in the Amiga scene.

That's all this is, vindication that something deemed impossible is not.Wolf needs a 16mhz ST to run modified PC source code about 12FPS. This could be genius 68k that could be adapted.

Roll on my Retirement @40 :roflmao:

[nicholas]

The Atari 8bit is a very cool computer, it was my second computer and I always regret selling it to get a c64.

If got one now expanded with 256K, Super Video upgrade and a SIO2SD which I put in a 1064 memory expansion case.

Very nice!

When I asked my parents for an A500 as my Christmas present in 1989 they told me they couldn't afford it and I should choose something else.

I went through my Mum's shopping catalogue and saw an Atari 8-bit (Dunno which model) and thought it looked cool and asked for that or a SAM-Coupe.

I was ecstatic on xmas morning to find an A500 Batpack!

I've always wondered what they Atari 8-bits were like though as other than my Lynx I never owned one.

[nicholas]

That's all this is, vindication that something deemed impossible is not.Wolf needs a 16mhz ST to run modified PC source code about 12FPS. This could be genius 68k that could be adapted.

Roll on my Retirement @40 :roflmao:

Oh I was referring to the loonies that think "Amiga will take over the world blah blah blah", not you.

[kickstart]

While spectrum and atari scenes have some work and fun with their machines on the amiga world talks about kinect, games ported to some phone, some futurible intel cpu for amiga, and so on, thats the reality.

[Linde]

Sacrifices had to be made, and most importantly, bloodshot requires more mappable memory than a stock A500 can provide. Here's an interview with the programmer: http://www.segacollection.com/specials/jimbinterview.htm. It is far from Wolfenstein 3D!

[Ral-Clan]

Nah, that would be impossible, the a500 is totally underpowered.
The following videos might be shocking to some people...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_ODNdKanGc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuZywAxfGkw

That's incredible.  I never would have though it possible.

[runequester]

Very nice!

When I asked my parents for an A500 as my Christmas present in 1989 they told me they couldn't afford it and I should choose something else.

I went through my Mum's shopping catalogue and saw an Atari 8-bit (Dunno which model) and thought it looked cool and asked for that or a SAM-Coupe.

I was ecstatic on xmas morning to find an A500 Batpack!

I've always wondered what they Atari 8-bits were like though as other than my Lynx I never owned one.

On youtube, search for  "phreakindee". He's got some cool stuff, and did a very nice review of an 8 bit atari computer (XL I believe). Very informative

[fishy_fiz]

There's also Duke3d for the megadrive. It's more of an homage than a port, but it's still pretty impressive considering the hardware.

[commodorejohn]

There's also Duke3d for the megadrive. It's more of an homage than a port, but it's still pretty impressive considering the hardware.

And it's also approximately equivalent to Wolfenstein 3D, tech-wise. (Don't know if it uses the vertical-mirroring trick discussed in that Bloodshot interview, though.)

[Britelite]

I've never seen Wolfenstein 3D run on a stock Amiga, suspect if it even exists it is not full screen (320x200 NTSC not PAL 320x256 full screen).

A wolf3d-clone would most certainly be possible on a stock (1MB) A500 in 4096 colors, just have a look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbBGxmJVasg at around the 2:23 mark.

[Karlos]

A wolf3d-clone would most certainly be possible on a stock (1MB) A500 in 4096 colors, just have a look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbBGxmJVasg at around the 2:23 mark.

Was it running on that hardware or an OCS machine with a faster CPU?

[cv643d]

"Trick or treat" (a PD game) was fully playable on A500 so it is possible.

[nicholas]

Was it running on that hardware or an OCS machine with a faster CPU?

They'd be the laughing stock of the demoscene if it didn't run on a stock A500 with 1MB after claiming it does, so I would imagine it's on the hardware they claim it to be.

[Linde]

Was it running on that hardware or an OCS machine with a faster CPU?

It runs full speed on a stock 1200, and I wouldn't be surprised if it ran on a 500 as well.

The thing people are missing about demos is that they are not games; for example, Superoriginal doesn't have a working game engine with sprites, sprite occlusion, AI, free movement etc and is undoubtedly heavily optimized narrowly for exactly the kind of scene that is displayed, most likely with a lot of memory taxing precalculations. Still very impressive, but far from a game.

... and what people seem to be forgetting about other 3D games for the Amiga is that, in the end, they are not Wolfenstein 3D. There's really only one way to conclusively prove that an A500 is capable of playing Wolfenstein 3D at an acceptable framerate...