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1200 Question
« on: September 26, 2006, 06:56:27 PM »
There is a guy with quite a few complete Amiga games for sale, and I was thinking about buying some - but in some of his auctions it says "Works on 500, 1000, 2000".  
I have a CD32 with SX-1 (so in essence a 1200 right?)  I asked the seller if they work on the 1200, and he said he doesn't know, but the box says 500, 1000, etc.  

I thought the 1200 was kind of a universal playing machine, but I could be wrong?  The box could also have been manufactured before the release of the 1200 too I guess.

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Re: 1200 Question
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2006, 07:10:23 PM »
if you have a floppy connected (in someway) to the cd32 most of the games are ok.
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Re: 1200 Question
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2006, 07:11:08 PM »
A CD32 is very similar to the A1200 but the main difference is that it uses the CD to load and play games. The games also have to be bootable. A lot of older games will be on floppy disk (the CD32 does not include a floppy drive) so might not be possible to load them ....
 

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Re: 1200 Question
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2006, 07:24:25 PM »
supposing you can load disks, probably you will need to run a degrader software like  TUDE  to load older games.

correct me if i'm not right  :-? i don't know about CD32 nor SX-1
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Re: 1200 Question
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2006, 07:37:25 PM »
Correct, some older games may not work correctly either due to: CPU, Cache, Chipset, kickstart ver etc.
WHDLoad is pretty commonly used as well with templates available for existing games.
 

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Re: 1200 Question
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2006, 12:03:10 AM »
I'm sorry, I should have mentioned that, yes I do have a floppy that connects to the SX-1.  It also has the hard drive and some version of Kickstart on it, but I can't remember which one (just got it).  
 

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Re: 1200 Question
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2006, 07:17:07 AM »
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I thought the 1200 was kind of a universal playing machine,
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No.
It was/is more kind of a universal computer, predestinated and often used for gaming...
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Re: 1200 Question
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2006, 09:05:47 AM »
Does the CD32 allow you to hold down both mouse buttons upon power-up and then select the floppy drive as a boot device?

I have absolutely zero experience with teh CD32 but I know on the A1200 you can use degraders as mentioned to effectively downgrade your machine to an earlier kickstart revision.

Your CD32 will have WB3.1 ROMs, although its possible the version of WB on the HDD (assuming there is one) is either 3.5 or 3.9.

If you can boot from a floppy, and use a downgrader, I can see no reason why they should not work.  Alternatively, there may be an Amiga game compatibility list somewhere online. I'll have a quick look if I get chance.

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Re: 1200 Question
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2006, 09:09:28 AM »
ArchM,

most of that floppy games of course will work there on the cd32 with a floppy drive
maybe 1 or 2 will fail but most of them will work
but also that games will fail on the A1200 if fail on the cd32

bassically you got an A1200 with a cdrom and Kick 3.1
and that's a great config for amiga games,floopy games or cd games..also hd games..of course if you connect a hardisk there


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Re: 1200 Question
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2006, 10:10:45 AM »
Rudei,

if you connect a mouse on the cd32 and hold both buttons you can access to the boot menu and you can change things like boot on pal or ntsc
you can't connect a floppy drive unless you have an expansion set like the SX-1
the SX-1 expands the cd32 with  parallel port and serial and floppy and hardisk and other things
The SX-1 converts the cd32 on a computer



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Re: 1200 Question
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2006, 12:54:48 PM »
Any A500 game that fails to load/run properly on an A600 will also be incompatible with an A1200 or CD32.

i.e.
Shadow of the Beast, No Second Prize, Hunter, F19 Stealth Fighter, Nightbreed :-(
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Re: 1200 Question
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2006, 04:40:36 PM »
DrDekker,

of course..if fails on the A600 will fail on the A1200/cd32

most of that  games not works on the A600 cause kickstart 2.05...so will fail also on kick3.0/3.1 of the A1200/cd32
also

The A600 can be degraded to kickstart 1.3 and run all A500 games..but you lost hardisk and pcmcia and a best Workbench
Even the video composite output of the A600 will fail and do monocrome like the A500 using kick1.3

I inserted a kick1.3 chip on the A600 lot of years ago for test purposes and worked fine and was much more compatible with old games

I have made los of experiments like that with lots of Amigas but now Im reired and I use winuae cause is the most compatible Amiga for games...now it's 99.999%
On Winuae all games works...ah yes still I can't found a game that fails there


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Re: 1200 Question
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2006, 04:31:28 PM »
Hi Lazer,

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of course..if fails on the A600 will fail on the A1200/cd32

most of that games not works on the A600 cause kickstart 2.05...so will fail also on kick3.0/3.1 of the A1200/cd32
also


You're Spot on there - that's what I was trying to say (without getting too technical) - i.e. it's not just that the A1200 and CD32 are AGA, but.....

 
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inserted a kick1.3 chip on the A600 lot of years ago for test purposes and worked fine and was much more compatible with old games


Now that's what I call a stroke of genius.  I've got an old A500 mobo that's been doing nothing for the past ten years or so.  I'll whip out the kickstart and pop it in my spare A600 and see how it goes. :-D

Edit:  Just discovered that the mobo is an A500+ (so it has KS 2.04) and therefore won't be as compatible as a KS 1.3 with the old games.

However, after installing the KS 2.04 in the A600, I can now play 'No Second Prize'. No more keyboard faults - Hurrah!

Now to try some other games..............
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