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Title: Abel Soul
Post by: on February 09, 2006, 08:38:59 PM
Abel Soul (http://www.myspace.com/abelsoul)

Good stuff Wilse.

Shining Star:-
Kind of James meets Stone Roses meets U2 meets Half Man Half Biscuit.

Out of Sight:-
Add the Charlatans to that mix. :-)

Demons:-
Reminds me of someone, but I can't think who right now.

Euphonia:-
Very '89. :-D
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: Karlos on February 09, 2006, 09:25:39 PM
Aye, top marks. Although I acutally misread "Euphonia" as "Euphoria" and thought, "by 'eck, that's not yer standard clubby euphoria stuff..." :-D
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: Wilse on February 12, 2006, 05:30:13 PM
@mdma:

Bloody hell! A whole thread dedicated to us!
Cheers n' that! :pint:

We're still tweeking the songs but thank you very much for taking the
time to listen.

We should have some more songs up there over the next few weeks too.

And "very '89" is possibly the best compliment you could give me. ;-)
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: Wilse on February 12, 2006, 05:33:01 PM
@Karlos:

Aye, I'm thinking of changing the name of it.

On the other hand, the lyric is actually about someone on this 'ere
website taking something the wrong way so maybe it's a good sign that
you misread it. :-D

I should also point out that my A1200, A1 and Pegasos were all
involved in the writing and recording of these songs, although final
mixes were done on a dedicated 16 track recorder.

again, thanks for listening - much appreciated.
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: on February 12, 2006, 08:46:44 PM
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And "very '89" is possibly the best compliment you could give me.


What about '91? ;-)
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: Wilse on February 12, 2006, 09:45:14 PM
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mdma wrote:
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And "very '89" is possibly the best compliment you could give me.


What about '91? ;-)


Actually, '90 would probably be my favourite, although Strings of Life came out in '87. :-D

PS - I just uploaded tweeked versions of Euphonia & Out of Sight. Should be available for download anytime now....

Cheers,
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: on February 12, 2006, 10:22:05 PM
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Wilse wrote:
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mdma wrote:
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And "very '89" is possibly the best compliment you could give me.


What about '91? ;-)


Actually, '90 would probably be my favourite, although Strings of Life came out in '87. :-D

PS - I just uploaded tweeked versions of Euphonia & Out of Sight. Should be available for download anytime now....

Cheers,


Derrick May==Genius!
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: PMC on February 13, 2006, 10:25:38 AM
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Good stuff Wilse.

Kind of James meets Stone Roses meets U2 meets Half Man Half Biscuit.


All good to me!  Must have a listen later, nice one Wilse.

Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: Wilse on February 13, 2006, 08:22:20 PM
@PMC:

Thank you, although I should point out that mdma is making it appear
far better than it is.
(Not that I'm complaining. :-D)

There's a bit of a problem with the upload of two tracks just now so
only two up there at the moment.

I'll let you know when it's resolved.


Cheers,
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: Wilse on February 16, 2006, 09:15:46 PM
Finally had to delete the two tracks and upload them again but it's
fixed now.

Enjoy!
(or wonder "why am I listening to this pish?" ;-))

BTW, anyone seen Chris lately?
I'd like to hear his opinion.

Oh, and Wain?

Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: Turambar on February 23, 2006, 09:48:12 PM
Time for a brutally honest glaswegian opinion....


Just listened to all four tracks, i liked Shining Star and Demons but thought Out of Site and Euphonia were naff.

Out of Site and Euphonia would probably go down well at the Art School though, dunno about Soundhaus as i've never been but i guess you'll have a good idea.

Regardless its better than all the bland indy pish and emo {bleep} ive been hearing from the rest of the local bands.

-edit-

Shining star kinda reminds me of the smashing pumpkins.
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: Wilse on February 23, 2006, 10:03:02 PM
@Turambar:

Smashing Pumpkins, eh? :-D
(never really liked them personally but then, I never really listened
to them...)

Euphonia would probably have gone down well at Chakra, the sadly
demised Soundhaus night. Out of sight - probably not, although I did
play quite a lot of guitar based records when I played there, so you
never know. Probably wouldn't have had the bottle to try it.

I did once play another of our tracks at Chakra. It was an
instrumental track of a fairly housey nature and the dance floor liked
it, which was one of the best feelings I've ever had whilst DJ-ing.
Kind of a, "Check all these mad punters going nuts for my tune!" type
thing. :-D

I haven't been to the Art School for about two years so am completely
out of the loop about what's on there.
They did used to run a stonikngly good hip-hop night on a Thursday but
that was even further back.

Anyway, thanks very much for listening and letting me know.
'Tis truly appreciated.


Cheers. :pint:
 
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: Turambar on February 23, 2006, 10:15:30 PM
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Smashing Pumpkins, eh?   (never really liked them personally but then, I never really listened  to them...)


I thinks its mainly the vocals remind of the track "today" or maybe im just tired. Any particular reason Chakra is gone? I had considered attending once or twice but could never persuade any of my mates.
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: Wilse on February 23, 2006, 10:26:13 PM
@Turambar:

I'll need to check out that track.
One thing that may or may not have made a difference is that the
vocals on Demons & Shining Star are by my mate Boxer, who is the best
singer in the band by a country mile.

Chakra ended for a combination of reasons but it was *probably* for
the best. It had been going for over four years and basically ran it's
course. Very few clubs last even that long.

I still absolutely loved it but some of the regulars were beiginning
to get a wee bit bored with it. On top of that it was very stressfull
for Carole, who pretty much organised it, and I think she'd had
enough.

What type of thing do you like to dance to when you're out?
We have a new night starting in March and I like to play quite a
range of stuff, provided I'm given that freedom.(Not always the case.)
You never know, might be something there for you.
;-)

-EDIT-
Just noticed your sig. - I played that at Chakra one night. Great
laugh. :lol:
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: bloodline on February 24, 2006, 11:58:51 AM
I rather enjoyed Euphonia...
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: Wilse on February 24, 2006, 04:59:13 PM
Thank you, Bloodline. I quite like it myself (my dodgy vocal
notwithstanding... :-D )

Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: bloodline on February 24, 2006, 07:50:50 PM
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Wilse wrote:
Thank you, Bloodline. I quite like it myself (my dodgy vocal
notwithstanding... :-D )



I prefer your vocal to the other blokes.
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: Wilse on March 08, 2006, 03:59:20 PM
Hi Bloodline,

Sorry for the late reply. I'm not long back from a stonkingly good
snowboarding holiday in Bulgaria and this is my first log in to the
org since.

Thanks very much for the vocal compliments.

We start recording again tonight after my winter-sports fuelled
absence. :pint:

I've also just found out it'll cost around 250 euro to repair my A1.
:cry:

Mac-mini is looking very attractive right now.
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: Wilse on April 05, 2006, 08:52:15 PM
Newe version of "Out of Sight" up.
Electric guitar replaced by acoustic and reworked drums and bass.

I'll be adding another song or two over the next few days.

We've also registered
http://www.abelsoul.com
and redirected it to myspace.
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: Wilse on April 07, 2006, 10:35:52 PM
New track: The Sheikh (http://www.abelsoul.com), pays homage to the supposed "Voyant", currently peddling his rather dubious wares around the South side of Glasgow.

:-)
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: Wilse on April 11, 2006, 10:52:26 PM
@Bloodline:

That's a very cool song on your site. Any reason why it's not available for download?

That you singing?

Think I might also (cash permitting) be pestering you for Logic advice in the not too distant future.
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: bloodline on April 12, 2006, 07:57:20 AM
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Wilse wrote:
@Bloodline:

That's a very cool song on your site. Any reason why it's not available for download?


Cheers, The record company were reluctant to let me even show the track... I actually wanted to show one of the other tracks, but none of them have had a final mix or been mastered yet... but "Myself" is pretty close, so they agreed as long as it was for listening only... so no downloads yet...
 
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That you singing?


Not the main vocal.

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Think I might also (cash permitting) be pestering you for Logic advice in the not too distant future.


I'll be happy to help any way I can (not just Logic advice ;-) )! You'll find with Logic, that it becomes much easier to get a clean crisp sound... far better than the expensive, non portable Protools system we were using...


A good Logic setup doesn't come cheap though :-(

£1800 - For a 2Ghz MacBook Pro (With 2gig RAM).
£699  - For Logic Pro 7.2
£360  - For an Edirol FA-101 Half-Rack Firewire Audio interface

£2860 - Grand total!!

And then you need a decent set of mics...throw another £2000 on the fire :-o

Then the more adventurous can get a control surface (assuming your Midi keyboard doesn't have one built in)... anther £800...

Oh, and send my appologies to Potsy :lol:
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: Wilse on April 12, 2006, 06:34:10 PM
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bloodline wrote:
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Wilse wrote:
@Bloodline:

That's a very cool song on your site. Any reason why it's not available for download?


Cheers, The record company were reluctant to let me even show the track...


Ah, I see. I didn't realise you were signed. What label and, if it's not too nosey, how did they hear about you?

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I actually wanted to show one of the other tracks, but none of them have had a final mix or been mastered yet... but "Myself" is pretty close, so they agreed as long as it was for listening only... so no downloads yet...


Ah well - very nice stuff anyway. :pint:
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That you singing?


Not the main vocal.


Reminds me a bit of Damon Albarn.

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Think I might also (cash permitting) be pestering you for Logic advice in the not too distant future.


I'll be happy to help any way I can (not just Logic advice ;-) )! [/quote]

Thank you.

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You'll find with Logic, that it becomes much easier to get a clean crisp sound... far better than the expensive, non portable Protools system we were using...


A good Logic setup doesn't come cheap though :-(

£1800 - For a 2Ghz MacBook Pro (With 2gig RAM).
£699  - For Logic Pro 7.2
£360  - For an Edirol FA-101 Half-Rack Firewire Audio interface

£2860 - Grand total!!

And then you need a decent set of mics...throw another £2000 on the fire :-o

Then the more adventurous can get a control surface (assuming your Midi keyboard doesn't have one built in)... anther £800...


OK - we're a bit away from that yet.
Would I be able to do much with the following?:
1.33Ghz iBook (512meg RAM) - already have
Logic Express - can get for £170
M-Audio midi/audio interface. can get for ~£80.
-EDIT-
We also have one decent condenser mic. already.

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Oh, and send my appologies to Potsy :lol:


Hehehe.. no worries.

Cheers Matt! :pint:
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: bloodline on April 12, 2006, 06:46:08 PM
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Wilse wrote:
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bloodline wrote:
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Wilse wrote:
@Bloodline:

That's a very cool song on your site. Any reason why it's not available for download?


Cheers, The record company were reluctant to let me even show the track...


Ah, I see. I didn't realise you were signed. What label and, if it's not too nosey, how did they hear about you?


I'll PM you the gory details :-)

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I actually wanted to show one of the other tracks, but none of them have had a final mix or been mastered yet... but "Myself" is pretty close, so they agreed as long as it was for listening only... so no downloads yet...


Ah well - very nice stuff anyway. :pint:
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That you singing?


Not the main vocal.


Reminds me a bit of Damon Albarn.


Aye... you don't say ;-)

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Think I might also (cash permitting) be pestering you for Logic advice in the not too distant future.


I'll be happy to help any way I can (not just Logic advice ;-) )!


Thank you.

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You'll find with Logic, that it becomes much easier to get a clean crisp sound... far better than the expensive, non portable Protools system we were using...


A good Logic setup doesn't come cheap though :-(

£1800 - For a 2Ghz MacBook Pro (With 2gig RAM).
£699  - For Logic Pro 7.2
£360  - For an Edirol FA-101 Half-Rack Firewire Audio interface

£2860 - Grand total!!

And then you need a decent set of mics...throw another £2000 on the fire :-o

Then the more adventurous can get a control surface (assuming your Midi keyboard doesn't have one built in)... anther £800...


OK - we're a bit away from that yet.
Would I be able to do much with the following?:
1.33Ghz iBook (512meg RAM) - already have
Logic Express - can get for £170
M-Audio midi/audio interface. can get for ~£80.
-EDIT-
We also have one decent condenser mic. already.
[/quote]


Yeah, Logic Express will do fine on that. I assume you'll be mosting using it as a non-linear multitracker, so just make sure you choose what effects you run in the 8 busses carefully! I always prefer to plan out how I'm going to route it once the songs is worked out, but before we record.

That way most tracks can route through one of your 8 fx busses, and that still leaves you 4 inserts per audio track for any extras ;-)

Try to avoid the "Heavy" (i.e. platinum effects), unless you can be sure that the track can be frozen to save on the CPU. The less CPU grunt you have, the more carefully you have to plan the structure of the song... as it limits the complexity of your edits.

Also, do try to get a Firewire interface, they are bus powered which is a life saver, and suffer a lot less from latency... gahhh... USB2 and latency :pissed:

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Oh, and send my appologies to Potsy :lol:


Hehehe.. no worries.

Cheers Matt! :pint:


I hope I didn't offend him, I just prefer your vocal. I think your vox will be easier to mix and require less effects to get a distinctive sound.
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: Wilse on April 12, 2006, 07:00:03 PM
Cheers for the advice.
I'm a tad skinty-poo just now but I'll be scoring LE as soon as cash allows.
Is it really that big a difference between USB & FW?
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: bloodline on April 13, 2006, 05:50:37 PM
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Wilse wrote:
Cheers for the advice.
I'm a tad skinty-poo just now but I'll be scoring LE as soon as cash allows.


To tide you over until funds become avaiable I would remind you that LE does not have the dongle protection of LP ;-)

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Is it really that big a difference between USB & FW?


Yes... I can't stress this enough. USB2 audio devices are not (yet) at the same standard as firewire. While USB2 is more than able to handle the bandwidth required, it  has a much higher latency and requires larger buffers to work properly.

I have also not found a decent Audio interface for under £350... having tried out four different devices, I founf the FA-101 to be the most stable (in both Windows and MAcOS) and has the best quality Preamps (for the price) and a wonderful repsonse on it's A/D and D/A converters (-110dB noise floor!).
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: Wilse on April 13, 2006, 08:32:45 PM
Cheers for the advice, Matt.
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: bloodline on April 14, 2006, 10:08:42 AM
With music equipment you really do get what you pay for... but unlike "computer equipment" a good audio device remains usefull as long as it still works.
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: Wilse on May 15, 2006, 07:40:46 PM
@MDMA,

If you get a minute, have a read of our latest blog entry. (http://blog.myspace.com/44204824)
You will surely recognise, perhaps a little wistfully, some of the silly goings on mentioned. ;-)
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: bloodline on May 22, 2006, 12:26:34 PM
Any new choons?
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: on May 22, 2006, 03:26:13 PM
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Wilse wrote:
@MDMA,

If you get a minute, have a read of our latest blog entry. (http://blog.myspace.com/44204824)
You will surely recognise, perhaps a little wistfully, some of the silly goings on mentioned. ;-)


Who? Me?

I have no idea what you are talking about young Robert. ;-)
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: Wilse on May 24, 2006, 06:50:12 PM
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bloodline wrote:
Any new choons?


Bugger! Gotta dash.

There are a couple of *very* rough ideas on my own myspace site
http://www.myspace.com/robertwilson72

I'll get back to you with the rest of my gibberish...

Ta-ra!
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: Wilse on July 01, 2006, 02:14:35 PM
Hi Matt,

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To tide you over until funds become avaiable I would remind you that LE does not have the dongle protection of LP


I just got a second hand copy of LE off eBay for £85.

Haven't had any time to play with it yet though.
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: bloodline on July 01, 2006, 08:56:35 PM
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Wilse wrote:
Hi Matt,

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To tide you over until funds become avaiable I would remind you that LE does not have the dongle protection of LP


I just got a second hand copy of LE off eBay for £85.

Haven't had any time to play with it yet though.


Nice One! Need any tips, just ask :-)
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: Wilse on July 03, 2006, 05:08:04 PM
@Matt:

Thanks mate, I'll bear that in mind.
:pint:
Title: Re: Abel Soul
Post by: Wilse on December 13, 2007, 10:15:25 PM
Sorry to dig up an ancient thread but....

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mdma wrote:
Abel Soul (http://www.myspace.com/abelsoul)

Good stuff Wilse.

Shining Star:-
Kind of James meets Stone Roses meets U2 meets Half Man Half Biscuit.



I just added a completely reworked version of that song (Shining Star) to the page.

Any new feedback appreciated.