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Offline pVC

Re: OS dilemma or not
« on: July 16, 2014, 09:55:15 AM »
Quote from: danbeaver;769062
True, but it feels just as confined and limited as a mac; it doesn't feel like I'm using an Amiga, just something else that I have no control over.  Perhaps it is the lack of documentation or the lack of 29 years experience in the number and depth of programs available.


Can you give any practical examples?

I can't imagine myself how MorphOS wouldn't be as much Amiga as OS4 for example. Same directory structures, starup files, shell behaviour etc like on Amiga always... UI is even more configurable because it's MUI, which is also well known from Amiga. You can tune the system with same existing scripts, shell commands, devices, datatypes, libs, handlers etc...

Most parts of MorphOS are directly continuation from Amiga (MUI, TurboPrint, AHI, SFS, CGX, Poseidon, etc. I've used to use all those on my A1200 before MorphOS). And heck, Ambient is MUCH more configurable than WB ever was, even with the patches (and Ambient resemles those patches in many places). Window gagdets etc are the same like on Amiga, but also extended to have new (configurable) functionality like getting windows to full screen more easily and opening new screens for programs automatically etc. I just don't understand where the limitation would be?

And MorphOS more compatible with Amiga software than probably any other system (including real Amigas). Or which other system can run 68k, WarpOS and PowerUP software out of the box? And even some OS4 programs with 3rd party extension.
Daily MorphOS user and Amiga active.
 

Offline pVC

Re: OS dilemma or not
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2014, 06:23:37 PM »
Quote from: LiveForIt;769136
You have the MOS: assign and stuff, it might be confusing where put libraries.

It's pretty clear if you read the documentation. User should never touch files in MOSSYS:, all files user install will go to SYS: just like on real Amiga.

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So if you don't like MUI, original AmigaOS 3.x uses Gadtools.
AmigaOS3.5/3.9 uses reaction.
Some who has only used a Amiga 500 / Workbench 1.2 will most likely not know what MUI is.

None of this are bundled with AmigaOS 3.x, most people don't have USB on classic Amiga, and True colors, sure some one who has spent a lot of money on upgrades maybe.

MorphOS's goal is to continue where high end Amigas were left. I don't think it would have any success if you'd be limited to Workbench 1.2 functionlity in it.

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Became a part of AmigaOS 3.5/3.9, it was not part of AmigaOS 3.1, some one who has not used Amiga in few years might find it strange to configure.

Yet it is available for OS3.1 too and it is de facto standard.

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Some people like Dopus5 and some don't, this is about individual taste, we do not all like the same thing, for the most part I like to use workbench because I feel I have better control when dragging icons around. Besides I see all buttons as clutter on the screen, when just want to start and find some thing.

So you also understand that some like Dopus5 more. It would be kind of difficult to please all people with default setup, don't you think? You have to select one. Nothing stops you doing things in old plain WB style either and configure the setup and disable all new features.

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How well does it support OCS/AGA games :-)

As well as OS4... pretty fine if you run it on CSPPC/BPPC :)
Daily MorphOS user and Amiga active.
 

Offline pVC

Re: OS dilemma or not
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2014, 06:48:47 PM »
Quote from: LiveForIt;769145
in 97 I waited for A/BOX


Then you should be happy with MorphOS, because its HW origins are with phase5 (A\Box) and MorphOS itself runs in a sandbox called ABox :)

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People that use MorphOS take it for granted that people have lot of experience with software from late 90's, I'm not sure that's always the case. Hardware availability has been big problem for AmigaOS users for many years.


So how would you suggest it should be instead? Not having those components from later days at all and have only minimal things supported (no usb, no soundcards, no network...)? Or build that functionality over totaly new or alien solution which everyone should learn from zero instead of having things familiar at least for some people?
Daily MorphOS user and Amiga active.