Best Amiga "Monitor" going!

[Floid]

Lemmink wrote:

It flickers on PAL:1280x512 but Voodoo:1280x768 is rock solid.

How can a TFT flicker  :-? In opposition to a CRT there is the full picture visible on screen at any given time.
So how can it flicker ? Really I'm just corious as it should be technically impossible.

If it doesn't buffer the interlaced frames, or if the analog signal's timing isn't perfectly clean, I can imagine there's a pretty good reason for this.

[amigean]

While TFT-TVs are handy for amigas they are not the perfect solution on their own...the monitors discussed here are not multiscan monitors (at least mine isn't) in that they do not sync to below 31khz when in (vga) monitor mode

They can display PAL resolutions because they are routed either through scart/composite or s-video and presumably go through the tv-tuner circuitry rather than go straight to the display...the circuitry 'emulates' the behaviour of a tv so well that flickering is possible because the PAL resolutions are merely passed through the composite video-in rather than the vga-15 connector

so basically, it is like connecting your miggy to a TV - you get exactly the same behaviour; PAL resolutions are slightly blurred and the flickering is also there - just as when you connect an amiga to a tv-tuner card on your PC...

It is fine for playing OCS/ECS games in PAL - but if you want to do anything which requires detail then a scandoubler/ff is still required...

The DBLPal/NTSC & Multiscan resolutions do not have this problem and again you get the same result you would expect to get from any other VGA monitor. On the minus side TFT screens have only one 'optimal' resolution (usually 1024x768 or increasingly 1280x1024) meaning that there is a (very slight) imaga blurring when using resolutions other than the optimal (this is because the resolution does not really change -rather some 'creative' adjustment is involved)

conclusion:

- TFT-TVs/Monitors are good but not perfect
(but are a good middle of way solution which turns out to be good bang/buck)

- TFTs+SD/FF are a much better solution (but they cost more, and SD/FF are not easy to find nowadays)

- Good CRTs & SD/FF are as close to a perfect solution as one can get (they are not girlfriend friendly however and may diminish your ANCKAT* allowance)

(* ANCKAT = Average Number of Computers to be Kept at Any given Time)

[leirbag28]

@Bennymee
That could be a nice replacement for my 1942 / Microvitec monitors. The specs say 1280x768 and I wonder how is the AGA resolution are displayed. Are they stretched by the monitor or can you switch that of on the monitor so that e.g. 640x480 is displayed as part of the screen ?

A pitty that is it NTSC.
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640 x 480 is NOT supposed to be squished and fit within the TV viewing area.......that is a mistake (A Huge one) that Microsoft screwed up and the PC world.

the correct resolution is 640 x 400......if you want the extra 480, then the width has to be 720.......being 720 x 480 as that is part of the Overscan...it makes no sence to have anything 640 x 480, but thanks to PC's  they screwed up this royally so that Digicams take pics in that resolution, so if you tried to view it on an Amiga.......you would have to scale it to 640 x 400 to make it look normal, because PC's squish the extra 80 pixels into the Viewing area that is normally 400 pixels.

Amiga is the only computer that had the resolutions right when it comes to how they should be displyed on a TV.

Now everything supports 640 x 480, so the world is a twisted place.

[boing]

These LCD's that take various NTSC and PAL refresh rates...now here's the important question: which of these LCD display sync to these rates via their RGB ports?  Not many I'd wager.  The corportaions are screwing the consumer.  Companies that don't sync down below 31KHz just want to force you to buy multiple CRT's or LCDs.


mdma, what kind of input is the "AV2 input"?

leirbag28, NTSC provides enough bandwidth for 1536 pixels [1520 on alternating lines]  (not that an analog system actually think in such terms) and 525 total lines (only 512 are active thanks to CC and other crap, and we're losing lines every year it seems).  Realistically, 672x464 is what will fill most bezels on most TV sets.  Yes the Amiga is the only computer that creates video-correct aspect ratios.  All NTSC video should be done at 1520x512 ;-)