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Re: The Os 3.1.4 Thread
« Reply #195 on: October 06, 2018, 10:22:48 AM »
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For the time being, please create a file

ENVARC:MMU-Configuration

and add the following single line:

ClearTTx

This trick works great! Thanks a lot!
In the meantime, I fixed this in the mmu.library. New version will appear ASAP.
 

Offline kolla

Re: The Os 3.1.4 Thread
« Reply #196 on: October 06, 2018, 01:19:30 PM »
With the new Intuition.library, there is one (to me) odd limitation - even though one can pull windows off-screen, the size of window is still limited by the size of screen.

I again request for locale ct files to be "released", so one can make own locale catalogs without the hassle of "disassembling" existing ones.
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Re: The Os 3.1.4 Thread
« Reply #197 on: October 06, 2018, 02:42:48 PM »
A guide to do this 3.9 merge with it would be nice. I am having a hell of a time getting this onto my 4000T with a clean install and then getting anything over to it so my hardware works like mediator and USB then RTG. The lack of a CD ROM drive out of the box is a hard thing to not have. MUI is to big to fit on a floppy for install to get Poseidon on to get USB working and so on.
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Offline bubbob42

Re: The Os 3.1.4 Thread
« Reply #198 on: October 06, 2018, 03:11:03 PM »
A guide to do this 3.9 merge with it would be nice.

We have this:

http://www.hyperion-entertainment.com/index.php/frequently-asked-questions/55-amigaos-314/255-can-i-mix-os-39-components-with-os-314

and Ignacio's excellent script on Aminet:

http://aminet.net/package/misc/os/Updateto314

Should suffice. I'd also think some YouTubers might pick this up. :-)
 

Offline giZmo350

Re: The Os 3.1.4 Thread
« Reply #199 on: October 06, 2018, 03:15:12 PM »
The lack of a CD ROM drive out of the box is a hard thing to not have. MUI is to big to fit on a floppy for install to get Poseidon on to get USB working and so on.

@Acill
Install the USB software and then run these commands from CLI.
You'll have to replace subwayusb.device in the second command with what ever RapidRoad's device name is. This should activate the USB port. Then use a USB CD unit to install MUI.

This, of course, will work if the RapidRoad software is installed generally like the older Subway USB software.

C:AddUSBClasses
C:AddUSBHardware DEVS:USBHardware/subwayusb.device

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Re: The Os 3.1.4 Thread
« Reply #200 on: October 06, 2018, 05:49:32 PM »
With the new Intuition.library, there is one (to me) odd limitation - even though one can pull windows off-screen, the size of window is still limited by the size of screen.
This is correct and intentional. Otherwise, you could move the window in such a way that you cannot reach controls anymore.

I again request for locale ct files to be "released", so one can make own locale catalogs without the hassle of "disassembling" existing ones.
Sounds all plausible to me, though if you want to get something fixed on short notice, I propose that you prepare a "diff" of old vs. new strings and I'll forward to the translator. This is easier procedural-wise, as silly as it sounds.

 

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Re: The Os 3.1.4 Thread
« Reply #201 on: October 06, 2018, 09:54:00 PM »
The lack of a CD ROM drive out of the box is a hard thing to not have. MUI is to big to fit on a floppy for install to get Poseidon on to get USB working and so on.

@Acill
Install the USB software and then run these commands from CLI.
You'll have to replace subwayusb.device in the second command with what ever RapidRoad's device name is. This should activate the USB port. Then use a USB CD unit to install MUI.

This, of course, will work if the RapidRoad software is installed generally like the older Subway USB software.

C:AddUSBClasses
C:AddUSBHardware DEVS:USBHardware/subwayusb.device

I'll give it a try, thank you! I am also thinking of putting back in my CF drive over the new SSD in it and just trying the update script listed earlier.
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Offline Bennymee

Re: The Os 3.1.4 Thread
« Reply #202 on: October 07, 2018, 09:42:17 AM »
@kolla

In screenmode, you could also insert custom width and height, the windows can then be larger.
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Re: The Os 3.1.4 Thread
« Reply #203 on: October 07, 2018, 11:27:09 AM »
With the new Intuition.library, there is one (to me) odd limitation - even though one can pull windows off-screen, the size of window is still limited by the size of screen.
This is correct and intentional. Otherwise, you could move the window in such a way that you cannot reach controls anymore.

That sounds impossible - if you can move it, you can move it back, if you can resize it, you can resize it back.
Unless you also have implemented some way of "lobbing" windows off-screen??

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I again request for locale ct files to be "released", so one can make own locale catalogs without the hassle of "disassembling" existing ones.
Sounds all plausible to me, though if you want to get something fixed on short notice, I propose that you prepare a "diff" of old vs. new strings and I'll forward to the translator. This is easier procedural-wise, as silly as it sounds.

It sounds really silly, and tedious - as I mentioned, the Norwegian locales are ridden with errors, for example the title windows of the prefs programs are consistently inconsistent. Imagine if in German it was "ASL-Einstellungen", "Audioeinstellungen", "IControl-Einstellungen", but "Workenbench Einstellungen". And for the latter, "Keine Farbe Ikonen", "Kein Tittel Feld", "Tastatur Auswahl Verzögerung" ... it just goes on and on. Even Google Translate does better :p

If I had .ct files, I would happily provide diffs and new locales for both the official variants of Norwegian (not just bokmÄl, as it currently is).

(Wasn't there an Amiga translator organisation or something similar earlier at some point?)
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Re: The Os 3.1.4 Thread
« Reply #204 on: October 07, 2018, 11:34:01 AM »
In screenmode, you could also insert custom width and height, the windows can then be larger.

Yes, I know that, but then I would also have a panning Workbench screen.
I would actually prefer if I could turn off the entire off-screen thing (which would be an IControl thing) also when using v45 Intuition.library.

And why is v45 left out from the 68000 distro? As far as I know, CyberGraphX requires at least 020.
Would it not be better to just include a separate kickstart file for CyberGraphX users?
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Re: The Os 3.1.4 Thread
« Reply #205 on: October 07, 2018, 02:27:50 PM »
And why is v45 left out from the 68000 distro? As far as I know, CyberGraphX requires at least 020.
Would it not be better to just include a separate kickstart file for CyberGraphX users?

What is a 68000 distro? You can equip every normal A500 with a 030, add the "Matze" Zorroadapter and use a Graphicboard with the A500...

There is NO 68000 distro....
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Offline gregthecanuck

Re: The Os 3.1.4 Thread
« Reply #206 on: October 08, 2018, 02:44:58 AM »
With the new Intuition.library, there is one (to me) odd limitation - even though one can pull windows off-screen, the size of window is still limited by the size of screen.
This is correct and intentional. Otherwise, you could move the window in such a way that you cannot reach controls anymore.

This same rule apples on Windows. You can manually size a window only to the maximum screen size. *Programmatically* you can make the window much larger but as has been mentioned this does introduce usability issues.
 

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Re: The Os 3.1.4 Thread
« Reply #207 on: October 08, 2018, 03:57:08 AM »
I purchased this for my A1200, and want to write the ROMs.  I know I need 27C400 EPROMs to do this, but, is there anything more "modern" to use than a UV-erase EPROM?  I know I can still get the UV-erase EPROMs, but, they are likely used and in need of erasure, but, I do not own a UV-based eraser.
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Re: The Os 3.1.4 Thread
« Reply #208 on: October 08, 2018, 04:09:47 AM »
Well I have both an EEPROM Programmer and UV Eraser, and am willing to support Amiga Users in the Toronto area as long as the supply the  Blank ROMs.
 

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Re: The Os 3.1.4 Thread
« Reply #209 on: October 08, 2018, 06:55:03 AM »
This same rule apples on Windows.
Since when was following Windows' example a good thing? There is no such limitations in macOS or any other desktop I'm using, and strangely enough, there are no problems with "unreachable controls", so I am curious on exactly how one would manage to move windows in a way so that window gadgets would really become unreachable. Anyways, I hope it will be possible to turn off this feature (IControl prefs), as my "amiga workflow" is very much accustomed to windows being limited by the screen border (and if I could request a feature, it would be to have another hotkey for grabbing and moving windows without having to use titlebar - then it would be possible to move windows in a way so that control gadgets would be unreachable.)
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