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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2015, 04:32:47 AM »
lol, just lol.

And when I think back about the minor qualms I had about having to once again pay for 4.1 FE after paying $100+ for an eternally "in beta" 4.1 update 1-6, the absolute hellscorn I got from some people when I said I felt it was a bit of a "cash grab" and a bit of a screw over to current OS 4.1 customers and faithfuls like myself, and the hateful PM's I got about it, I gotta chuckle.

People told me I was a negative plague amongst the NG Amiga scene, that "it's only $30, after all".  $30 isn't much, but it was about $30 more than I wanted to pay after effectively paying $100+ for my original copy of 4.1 and being a paying beta tester/developer for the last 7 years.  I recall one person telling me "you're the problem with the Amiga scene" because I dared question things.  Welp, this "problem with the scene" has an extra $30 in his wallet to spend on good beer this weekend, I didn't buy 4.1 FE, and if I did, I'd be let down badly right about now.

It doesn't make me love my SAM and OS4 any less, though - and I hope talks are well underway so development continues on it, because I will continue to use it.  I like it.  You might not - and that's just fine.  You, or I, for that matter - might not have ever cared for Hyperion's strong armed, egotistical manner of handling the franchise, but that's moot.  I'm not a big fan of Microsoft's internal monopoly and politics either, but I use their products 99% of the time.  I have no plans to get rid of my SAM (or MOS boxes) anytime soon.

I just hope the rights to OS4 get into the hands of someone that has some sense.  The sense to realize that $3000+ PPC machines are not going to keep the OS4 scene thriving.  You've cut off your nose to spite your face, and that pains me when the OS in itself is such a joy to use.  But for 90% of people, it's not a $3000 joy - but I bet if you offered OS4 for PPC Mac, copies would fly off the proverbial shelves.

To whoever ends up with the rights - do the right thing.  While PPC Mac's are not growing on trees anymore, please realize that you would sell many times the copies of the OS if you simply ported OS4 to the Mac PPC.  The $3000 boutique style "super computer that can't even run an office suite" model isn't working.  Cost of involvement in the OS4 platform is far too high to get the developers knocking on your door.  You (and I) will be left behind for the cheaper platform, even in such a niche market.

No one is buying these to run paint programs, or silly ActiveX style desktop enhancement suites.  No one is buying these to run rendering programs that run faster on an 8 year old PC.  What people would really like to do is use these machines all day, every day, for their daily tasks.  Word processing.  Web browsing.  Social media.  The same things we do on our mainstream machines.  $3000 machines isn't going to get us there anytime soon, but you will always, always have a market for them should you make them.  You may not sell 10,000 a quarter, but you might also increase OS sales 50 fold if the darned OS ran on cheaper systems.

Nothing to me was more disappointing with my SAM purchase than the day I had to reach for my $50 cellular phone to look something up on the internet because the browser on the SAM would crash.
 

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2015, 04:54:26 AM »
@Duce, well-said and spot-on...
 

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2015, 05:03:17 AM »
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2015, 05:10:13 AM »
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The war was lost like a decade ago by all parties.


When I set up the question I was expecting to get back an answer along the lines of "OS 3.x won the war years ago" or "OS 3.x won the war before it began, in the 1990s" or "680x0 has been winning the war every single day for 30 continuous years" :D
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2015, 05:36:47 AM »
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When I set up the question I was expecting to get back an answer along the lines of "OS 3.x won the war years ago" or "OS 3.x won the war before it began, in the 1990s" or "680x0 has been winning the war every single day for 30 continuous years" :D

The PowerPC was a trap since the beginning by Bill Gates & Steve Jobs for killing the 68k evolution, killing Commodore & Atari, and for losing our time & energy on a dead-end...

Business is war... Be lucid, please...



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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2015, 06:08:10 AM »
Commodore, Atari and others were already dead and buried when Steve Jobs decided to go x86.

Believe me, he didn't want to go x86 - he had to because PowerPC simply was not in the race. They couldn't build machines fast enough on that architecture for a reasonable amount of money - so they did the smart thing and moved.. Amiga backed the wrong horse (PPC)..
It's a shame, but there was no conspiracy between Steve Jobs and Bill Gates to kill of competition - there wasn't any.
 

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2015, 06:24:41 AM »
Jesus Christ guys. Thanks for finding this. I ordered a system from Amigakit and it' been on pending for a week now and was wondering what was going on. I sent an email to them to cancel the order and send a refund right away. Good find and amazing community.
 

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2015, 06:26:01 AM »
By the way, this doesn't affect Amigakit in any way right? Hopefully, they are fine.
 

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2015, 06:45:32 AM »
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Commodore, Atari and others were already dead and buried when Steve Jobs decided to go x86.


Hate to burst your bubble, but Steve Jobs went from m68k to i486 in 1993 with NeXTStep, before Commodore went bust. He was not at all part of the PowerPC frency, Apple did that without him, and the first incarnations of what would become OSX, namely Rhapsody, was on x86 only.
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2015, 06:51:41 AM »
And Cosmos, your interpretation of history is just crazy talk. PowerPC was IBM, Apple and Motorola - nobody else. Neither Bill Gates nor Steve Jobs were involved (Jobs was busy with NeXTStep, OpenStep, JavaBeans etc at this time).
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2015, 06:56:33 AM »
cpaek72,

All is OK! It ain't over til the fat lady sings.

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2015, 07:07:19 AM »
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Unfortunately I have read that the developer of amithlon deleted amithlon and all of his backups because he was so angry.


Not deleted.
 

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2015, 07:07:42 AM »
"The Amiga computer was a machine ahead of its time. When it was released in 1985, its color screen (4096 colors in HAM mode!), four-channel sampled stereo sound, preemptive multitasking GUI, and custom chips to accelerate both sound and graphics made the year-old Macintosh seem antiquated and the PC positively Paleolithic.

Steve Jobs was reported to be extremely worried about the Amiga, but fortunately for him and Apple, Commodore had absolutely no idea what they were doing"


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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2015, 08:51:01 AM »
Surely you don't mean... that somebody was wrong on the internet?!

I don't believe it.
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #44 from previous page: February 14, 2015, 08:51:15 AM »
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Hyperion says: "The news of our demise is greatly exaggerated":

http://oldschoolgameblog.com/2015/02/14/hyperion-says-the-news-of-our-demise-is-greatly-exaggerated/


"This is the result of an unfortunate administrative mishap by a third party and is in the process of being addressed/cleared up."

someone with access to the account of Hyperion on amigaworld. Whatever this exactly means