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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: on June 24, 2008, 04:40:51 AM
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Seriously, he's either wacky or on serious drugs to try to sell this ridiculously overpriced accelerator (http://cgi.ebay.com/AMIGA-CYBERSTORM-PPC-DUAL-CPU-ACCELERATOR-BOARD_W0QQitemZ250262891745QQihZ015QQcategoryZ4193QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
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He lost his marbles.
He maybe crazy, but not as the one who buys it.
If I were rich and was designing a new Amiga, I would buy it.
:-D
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pkillo wrote:
Seriously, he's either wacky or on serious drugs to try to sell this ridiculously overpriced accelerator (http://cgi.ebay.com/AMIGA-CYBERSTORM-PPC-DUAL-CPU-ACCELERATOR-BOARD_W0QQitemZ250262891745QQihZ015QQcategoryZ4193QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
And what if he does sell it? Will you call him "wacky" then?
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If he sells it, I'm going to offer the buyer this bridge I've got over in Brooklyn....
seriously, you think someone will really pay that?
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He will eventually lower the price 'cause it will NOT sell.
I think a price around $1000 would be ok.
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C'mon guys. It plays mpeg files fast! If that isn't worth $1500, I don't know what is.
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So does a Peggy+ zorro board ...
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Actually, I don't blame him. That's still cheaper than it cost originally, and these things are incredibly sought after, especially as this is the top of the range and even has the 060 overclocked.
If he sold it I wouldn't be amazingly surprised, but I think he'll lower it to $1000 eventually.
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Why do you consider "this dude is completely mental" and the card to be "rudiculously overpriced"?
I really am curious...
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He's not mental, He's just evil. He knows that one of the mental people around here will pay that much for it.
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Actually that price is high even by 1998 standards. I picked up my CSPPC for $850. This was of course after the announcment of the Abox, or some other vaporware PPC Amiga which de-valued the cost of the PPC cards for about 10 minutes back then.
Some tech company out there has to see this and think either these guys are bonkers or heck lets make PPC amiga cards.
Is it possible to make a FPGA cpu card with a software 020 overclocked? If the FPGA is powerfull enough can a graphics card be included?
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Well it is the cream of all accelerators and at the rate prices are rising it isn't an insane ammount. Then again i'm using a non PC (sort-of) machine at 233Mhz and it's miles cheaper with just as much fun i'd say.
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@ all
Cheapskates!
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Astral wrote:
Why do you consider "this dude is completely mental" and the card to be "rudiculously overpriced"?
I really am curious...
The card is ridiculously overpriced because it's not worth that much, even if some fool will pay it. You can buy a G4-based AmigaOne for that price! Why would you want to upgrade a system when you could put a second one next to it and have both for the same price?
The guy is mental because, imnsho, it's immoral to try to rip someone off for that amount of money. [Usury is a sin, you can look it up if you like!] As this seller obviously doesn't care that he's doing wrong [I have a hard time believing that he doesn't _know_ he's doing wrong] his behavior borders on sociopathic. Just my opinion, of course, but since you're so 'curious' there it is.
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I think a price around $1000 would be ok.
It's an AS-IS item. If it don't work, you just flushed that $1000 down the toilet. Sorry, but without any assurances at all of any kind that thing thing might actually work, then it's not worth more than a couple hundred $$. To me anyway. I paid $700 for one that I was assurred worked fine. A few years ago.
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he is NOT doing anything wrong, you're just a sick jealous MF. He has the liberty to ask whatever price for his stuff as you have the liberty not to buy it. calling people names for this is just stupid.
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countzero wrote:
he is NOT doing anything wrong, you're just a sick jealous MF. He has the liberty to ask whatever price for his stuff as you have the liberty not to buy it. calling people names for this is just stupid.
I'm not calling him names, I was answering a very leading question with my opinion, and while you certainly have the right to disagree, your response lacks any reasoned argument, instead consisting of insults.
Sorry, but saying I am 'a sick jealous MF' is WAY OUT OF LINE. You are, for whatever reason, trying to bait me with your flame. I'm not going to go there.
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@countzero
I'll second that. There are a lot of jealous people around here it seems.
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Too bad it's so expensive. The seller lives within driving distance for me; I might have considered buying it. I've been wanting a card like that for my A4000T for a long time. :-(
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pkillo wrote:
I'm not calling him names,
so ? would you care to explain to me what 'mental' means ?
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The sale price is only as stupid as the person who buys it at the end of the day.
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He's only nuts if it doesn't sell. If it does, he's a genius.
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countzero wrote:
pkillo wrote:
I'm not calling him names,
so ? would you care to explain to me what 'mental' means ?
No, actually, I don't care to, not unless I first get an explanation as to why you have been so rude as to insult me for expressing my opinion. Did I wrong you somehow, that I deserve to be the subject of your earlier profanity?
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Yeah - that's fine a lesson in capitalism.
Demand and supply. Simple as that.
If good or bad might be another question. I guess he didn't invented capitalism, but he tries to use the system's limits. I think in the end that auction even could turn out quite instructive by showing where capitalism leads to.
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I hope the auction ends without a sale and they re-list it with a lower price. However If they do I doubt it will be that much lower!
Theres money to be made in out little market but not by people trying to push it forward!
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oh no... this seller is far from mental, he is merely counting on the hope that there is a real mental out there who buys it :-P
really can't blame him for trying people :-D
ta
Tom UK
PS: personally not interested... quite happy with my own setup
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It's not the first time something has gone crazy!
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pkillo wrote:
...Did I wrong you somehow, that I deserve to be the subject of your earlier profanity?...
For some, myself included, the use of the word "mental" in a derogatory manner is extremely offensive. I'm not saying that's what has upset countzero, but I thought I'd mention it anyway.
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For some, myself included, the use of the word "mental" in a derogatory manner is extremely offensive. I'm not saying that's what has upset countzero, but I thought I'd mention it anyway.
I apologize; Any offense to you was unintentional. I honestly don't see how you can take offense to the usage in question, as the word is only defined as offensive when applied to some person or people who are actually suffering from a mental illness, which is NOT what I meant to state about this seller, but obviously your interpretation varies, so I'm sorry I offended you.
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countzero wrote:
he is NOT doing anything wrong, you're just a sick jealous MF. He has the liberty to ask whatever price for his stuff as you have the liberty not to buy it. calling people names for this is just stupid.
countzero :) I'm not jealous as you know I already have one :P
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You think that guy is mental?
Take a look at this (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Amiga-1200-BPPC-256mb-2BVision-Mediator-Scandy-Others_W0QQitemZ320267250094QQihZ011QQcategoryZ4193QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) crazy Russian dude!
lol
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pkillo wrote:
The card is ridiculously overpriced because it's not worth that much, even if some fool will pay it.
The value of anything is "what someone will pay for it".
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Boot_WB wrote:
You think that guy is mental?
Take a look at this (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Amiga-1200-BPPC-256mb-2BVision-Mediator-Scandy-Others_W0QQitemZ320267250094QQihZ011QQcategoryZ4193QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) crazy Russian dude!
lol
Why you think that me is crazy?
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bet ya it sells to someone who bashed the seller n this thread :madashell:
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that "crazy russian dude".... lets see now
1x BlizzPPC/060 £250-£300
2x BlizzVisionPPC £80-£100
1x BlizzIV060 £150
so thats £650GBP / $1300USD
leaving £350GBP / $700USD for a good mainboard, scandoubler, network card, fastATA3 etc...
so its not too out the ball park...
and to be honest, if i was rich enuff to just blow 1500USD on a good PPC card, i would.. if it gets re-listed for $1000USD, i (about 6 years ago) spent £350GBP $700USD on an 060 based 180Mhz PPC card... and these days, with cards dieing, or going into collections, closets, maybe £500GBP isn't too far off the mark...? lets face it, these are just going to get rarer and rarer.
i know you can get a 300+Mhz PPC board by ripping apart an old cisco switch, but it is not going to run amiga stuff now is it? :-D
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I wonder if he'd take three gallons of gasoline for it?
:-D
LOL
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Hello.
Please look this.
(http://foto.mail.ru/inbox/akromion/amiga/s-1.jpg)
Thanks.
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akromion wrote:
Hello.
Please look this.
(http://foto.mail.ru/inbox/akromion/amiga/s-1.jpg)
Thanks.
I just want the Wodka!!! :-D
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Wow thats a lot of great stuff in that auction.
I personally dont think the price is that bad considering your getting one of the best Blizzard PPC's, 060 66MHz and 266 MHZ PPC....it says 200 in the description but if you look the which Amiga Screenshot I beleiev it says 266MHz for the PPC (and these dont go cheap on Ebay), 2 BVissions (they go for a bit) a Blizzard 040 and an 060 (although they say that it isnt working but it could be made to work and they can go for alot) plus you get all the other ice bits and pieces.
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akromion wrote:
Hello.
Please look this.
(http://foto.mail.ru/inbox/akromion/amiga/s-1.jpg)
Thanks.
You'd better include a bottle of Russian "Standard". That is hardly to obtain outside Russia and has a glorius name (I don't know the taste, I hadn't the chance to try it out yet and prefer Polish Grasovka anyway).
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the buyer will need some vodka to ease the pain.. when his wife finds out the money is gone
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Well the cyberstorm has sold, How mental do you think the seller is now?
I dont think we should dicuss the state of mind of the buyer :crazy:
Makes me almost consider selling mine :-D
Gaz
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gazgod wrote:
Makes me almost consider selling mine :-D
Gaz
I am actually considering it after that. I might even gift wrap mine for $1500.00 :-o
-Jeff
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What a #@#$$%% idiot!
Its just a sad world around here that these auctions are happening.
The guy even put "as is" on the auction and he still got $1500 for it. $#@$%% incredible.
What on earth are you doing with your A3000/4000 that would justify spending that kind of cash on something that might not even work?
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that's messed up, dude. seriously, I am completely flabbergasted that this sold. the buyer could have had a whole system for that price - a nice one at that. he just overpaid by 50 cents on the dollar...
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if only i had 100 of those! I WOULD BE RICH!!
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
thats an awesome price!
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Have a look at the buyer's feedback. He has been buying a LOT of stuff, some of it pricey. So I don't think money is a problem for him. If he has the money and is prepared to pay it for that item then good for him. People who criticise the seller and the buyer for that are just jealous that they can't afford it...
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moto
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Wow.
:-o
but also
:lol:
:crazy:
Wait, even a million smileys wouldn't explain how mad that is. :roll: :-P
But seriously... if anyone wants an 030 for £200 PM me... :lol:
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I thought I might ask a few questions to get a view of different peoples view of the above. They are not meant to create a stir at all, indicate any bias, suggest any underlying attacks or similar, and especially not to have any persons' financial status made obvious. They are merely to get some views of the opinions of those that respond...
1) If there was known to be 50000 CyberStorm's left, how much would one be "worth"?
2) If there was known to be 1000 CyberStorm's left, how much would one be "worth"?
3) If there was known to be 1 CyberStorm left, how much would one be "worth"? How much would YOU be willing to pay for it, if you a) Wanted it? b) *NEEDED* it?
4) If you owned the last known CyberStorm in the world, how much would you ask for it?
5) If you could afford the asking price of the CyberStorm in this particular thread, and that was your life savings, would you consider the price acceptable?
6) If you could afford the asking price of the CyberStorm in this particular thread, and still have enough money left to buy 250000 more of them, would you consider the price acceptable?
7) Does any potential buyer have the option of buying or not, at there discretion, and for their reasons any item that may be available?
8) What means more to you - money, or spending your money by actually buying things with it that you will enjoy?
I think that's enough questions :crazy: :roll:
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@Astral
Crazy questions :lol:
I WOULD like some kind of PPC, but not for that kind of money they are selling for.
What I would like better that PPC are a new Amiga system :-)
Natami seems for me to be the best, I hope it turns out well.
Sure, it would be nice with a PPC card for my amy, but I will not sell an arm or a leg to get PPC :lol:
Sure, I understand thoose who buy an overpriced PPC card, I hope that THEY can afford it. I can't :admonish:
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Hello.
Please look this.
(http://foto.mail.ru/inbox/akromion/amiga/s-2.jpg)
That during transfer to exclude the risk connected with possible influence of a static electricity on electronic components, I have pasted over the case, a special film which protected electronic components from it, and also excludes penetration of a moisture inside.
Thanks.
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akromion wrote:
Hello.
Please look this.
(http://foto.mail.ru/inbox/akromion/amiga/s-2.jpg)
That during transfer to exclude the risk connected with possible influence of a static electricity on electronic components, I have pasted over the case, a special film which protected electronic components from it, and also excludes penetration of a moisture inside.
Thanks.
I am sure you have the best of intentions, but that does not look good, all those loose boards are free to rub against each other, ripping off components and tracks due to the rough handling they will recieve during transit.
Each board should be put into it's own anti-static bag and then it's own cardboard box with anti-static foam, all boxes then put into a large box as in your picture.
The important thing is to ensure that no matter how many times the box is thrown from place to place, the cards will not be damaged.
Good Luck.
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I put 10x more effort into packing a bunch of ISA cards and 32pin sims for a guy here not too long ago, and all for just post. Here I see a situation where a small amount of force can knock off SMT parts or bend the legs of flatpacks. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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Non anti static bubble wrap I bet.
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Not to mention the SIMM clips are going to be broken from the sockets if the RAM isn't removed prior to shipping. Never ship a card with the SIMM's attached!
-Jeff
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Hello.
I have got enough of antistatic packages so now each accessory from mine lot will be packed in separate antistatic packing. I wish to add, that all is packed very densely - so at transportation any movings of components inside of a box are excluded.
Thanks.
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Trust me, the carriers will take that as a challenge :roll: :lol:
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Hello.
I think published below a photo in the certain degree characterizes me and it will be interesting to much.
(http://foto.mail.ru/inbox/akromion/amiga/s-3.jpg)
The photo have been made in 2001-2002 year. Thus, for that moment it there was only half of that for me was available in a collection. At present, the collection is much more - than times probably in five, than on a photo, owing to, by the way, ebay. The new photo, unfortunately is not present, as enough plenty of time that all my collection to bear from the house is necessary, to photograph, and then all back to bring. Yes I still and itself have a little changed. :-D
Thanks.
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Superb
Ataris, Commodores, Sinclairs, & is that an IBM PC ? As well as that you've got more joysticks than you could poke a stick at, (sorry for the pun)
What's the unit in the red & grey box behind your left knee?
BTW: you gotta get a better translator.
Luv your work. :idea:
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Hello.
In my collection there is no IBM PC a compatible computer - they do not like me absolutely, them anything interesting to me. I have enough of the Soviet computers. Well joysticks at me it is a lot of.
You probably had in view of Atari.
This summer I think I shall make new photosession of all my collection.
Thanks.
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I'd cry if I received a package like that! Good packing is not difficult and saves AMiga stuff from hitting the junk pile.
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Hello.
I shall repeat.
Each part will be packed into a separate antistatic package. All they be densely laid in a box. In a box there will be enough bubble wrap by which all space between parts will be filled. What or movings to a box are simply excluded. The given photos are intended only for acquaintance and speak that at me all it is.
Thanks.
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Boot_WB wrote:
You think that guy is mental?
Take a look at this (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Amiga-1200-BPPC-256mb-2BVision-Mediator-Scandy-Others_W0QQitemZ320267250094QQihZ011QQcategoryZ4193QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) crazy Russian dude!
And even though he has listed Paypal in the auction he says he will only accept money via bank transfer.
I think NOT.
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da9000 wrote:
And even though he has listed Paypal in the auction he says he will only accept money via bank transfer.
I think NOT.
The reason for this is that PayPal now MUST be an option to eBay buyers, but payments can't be accepted in Russia through PayPal. Being an interested buyer, I actually checked this with PayPal and they confirmed it. That's why it is as it is...
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spihunter wrote:
What a #@#$$%% idiot!
Its just a sad world around here that these auctions are happening.
The guy even put "as is" on the auction and he still got $1500 for it. $#@$%% incredible.
What on earth are you doing with your A3000/4000 that would justify spending that kind of cash on something that might not even work?
Why a "Sad World"? Some people have more money than common sense. A few years ago when I was making the big bucks, I paid some very high prices for Amiga programming books that I really wanted and I wanted them right then, not at some time in the future when some other auction came along. Well, I am a lot wiser now (and don't have any money) so I don't have that problem anymore.
I am not going to complain about the prices though. I will just use them to justify selling my gear at outrageous prices in the future and make back twice what I paid for them. :lol:
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da9000 wrote:
And even though he has listed Paypal in the auction he says he will only accept money via bank transfer.
I think NOT.
I really am surprised from some amigans. Instead of reading in paypal about in what countries by means of it it is possible to accept payments, they ask each time silly questions. I once again repeat for at whom a problem with sight - you cannot expose anything to sale if you do not specify paypal as one of payment variants. Read rules of ebay. Even if you cannot accept payments through paypal.
At me now two variants - or to wait, when paypal will accept payments for those who lives in Russia, or to take advantage of services of the intermediary. The second variant not so is pleasant to me, and the first case it is necessary to wait long enough and if it happens the price will be much more above that that has been specified by me now. There is still a variant to sell all in parts - some offers already there is also I while think.
All thanks for the shown interest.