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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2010, 01:52:41 PM »
This is great news Mike and Yaqube. We love your dedication and the fact that you spend so much time on this project. I do hope your will make some money on this awell.
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2010, 02:40:59 PM »
How much does the pcb board itself without any components cost?
(size?, layers?)
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2011, 02:18:55 PM »
It's 6 layers and you can get the size from the drawing on the website.

I'm not prepared to discuss component pricing as the board is not available (and no use) on it's own - you can't self assemble this.  

It's pretty tough to hit the price point I am offering it for in these volumes. When the manufacture moves completely to China it will be a little less.
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2011, 04:12:36 PM »
Just curious what pcb price you got for small runs for use in other non-amiga related projects ;)
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2011, 04:43:11 PM »
Sure,
The PCB company I use is called Shenzhen Gold Sky
http://www.gsspcb.com/en/

My contact is called Lily, who is great.
The price depends a lot on volume and the design, so send them the manufacturing data and get a quote. The NRE is quite high so you need to be looking at 50+ to make the overall price good, then it gets quite cheap.
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2011, 04:36:25 AM »
I think a small run = 4 cards, I thought you used another one more physically close. ;)

As I recall you used one company for the first 10 (or one?), and another one for the full 50?
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2011, 02:38:37 PM »
Quote from: yaqube;602872
Frankly speaking there is not much to show right now. Everything has been delayed slightly.

I should get the new revision of the board shortly after Mike has verified the design. The daughter board should be ready in January.

In the meantime Tobias has managed to implement missing bitfield instructions. It has increased the core size to 75% of the FPGA.

We are still working on fixing minor problems. Finally we've got the RNC Copy Lock games to work.


@Yacube can i use my new unused ceramic PGA 060 rev 6 (71E41J) on your daughter board ?
« Last Edit: January 02, 2011, 02:45:19 PM by wizard66 »
-=* Homemade Minimig\'s Build 09 *=-

1x FPGAARCADE Replay v1.0B (Inside a A590 case)
Dreaming of 1x FPGAArcade Daughter-board :-) (inline from day 1)
1x A600
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2011, 02:39:28 PM »
Are the PCB's similar for the 1st and 2nd run ?
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2011, 03:22:42 PM »
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can i use my new unused ceramic PGA 060 rev 6 (71E41J) on your daughter board ?


Definitely :)
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2011, 03:42:22 PM »
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Definitely :)


Sweet, i'm happy that I hold back this CPU then ;-)
Maybe it's possible to overclock the cpu in the future this cpu can run 80 mhz easy..
« Last Edit: January 02, 2011, 04:12:29 PM by wizard66 »
-=* Homemade Minimig\'s Build 09 *=-

1x FPGAARCADE Replay v1.0B (Inside a A590 case)
Dreaming of 1x FPGAArcade Daughter-board :-) (inline from day 1)
1x A600
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2011, 04:52:56 PM »
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Sweet, i'm happy that I hold back this CPU then ;-)
Maybe it's possible to overclock the cpu in the future this cpu can run 80 mhz easy..
Or maybe in a few years it will be much, much faster take a look at this up coming FPGA technology:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1342100/Scientists-unveil-1-000-core-chip-make-desktop-machines-20-times-faster.html
 
 
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2011, 06:14:44 PM »
Hehe...How fast minimig do we need :-) I am just glad to hear RTG is in the pipeline so that we can glue the Replay board to the back of a monsterous Apple 24" screen and thus use the Replay board as a kick ass Classic usage with workbench and super-speed and a nice resolution. I believe Mike or Yaqube mentioned that 1680x 1050 should be possible to produce. That's gonna be very nice... :-)
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2011, 06:25:40 PM »
I think 80 MHz signaling speed with the FPGA might be a stretch. It requires some consideration.
« Last Edit: January 02, 2011, 06:27:49 PM by freqmax »
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2011, 07:51:30 PM »
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Hehe...How fast minimig do we need :-) I am just glad to hear RTG is in the pipeline so that we can glue the Replay board to the back of a monsterous Apple 24" screen and thus use the Replay board as a kick ass Classic usage with workbench and super-speed and a nice resolution. I believe Mike or Yaqube mentioned that 1680x 1050 should be possible to produce. That's gonna be very nice... :-)


should not be a problem if it comes to amiga68k rtg solutions, my main 4000er handles that alright even under p96. cant use the (expensive&shitty/4.2 dumb users) mac display i have standing here cause it doesnt accept analogue signals anymore.
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2011, 08:42:44 PM »
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I think 80 MHz signaling speed with the FPGA might be a stretch. It requires some consideration.


Even 66Mhz 060 would be pretty cool :-)
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #29 from previous page: January 02, 2011, 08:48:32 PM »
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should not be a problem if it comes to amiga68k rtg solutions, my main 4000er handles that alright even under p96. cant use the (expensive&shitty/4.2 dumb users) mac display i have standing here cause it doesnt accept analogue signals anymore.


If I recall correctly, the Replay board has DVI output which the Apple Display should like. Anyway, I think I will buy something else which does not cost a zillion extra for the apple logo :)

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