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ACA 1232 50 MHz, upgraded from 33 MHz to 50 MHz.
33 MHz CPU removed, installed socket, and 50 MHz MC68030RC50C CPU.
Mini DIP switch installed into R1-R4.
Selectable 20, 25, 30, 33, 40, 50 MHz CPU freq..
Totally tested with A1200. 50 MHz mode stable, I tested with games, demos.
4 pics original 33 MHz condition.

R1-4 switch configuration, original not modified oscillator 20 MHz.
All off, RAM 2× =  40 MHz, CPU 20 MHz.
R2 on, RAM 2,5× =  50 MHz, CPU 25 MHz.
R3 on, RAM 3× = 60 MHz, CPU 30 MHz.
R1 on, RAM 3,33× = 66 MHz, CPU 33 MHz.
R2+4 on, RAM 4× = 80 MHz, CPU 40 MHz.
R1+4 on, RAM 5× = 100 MHz, CPU 50 MHz.
R4 on, RAM 5,33× = 106,6 MHz, CPU 53,3 MHz. Never try!
R2+3 on, RAM 6× = 120 MHz, CPU 60 MHz. Never try!
R1+3 on, RAM 8× = 160 Mhz, CPU 80 MHz. Never try!
Never try other 7 combinations (R1+2 on, etc.)!

With 50 MHz CPU 300 Euro, with 33 MHz CPU 250 Euro + shipping.
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After the modification.
 

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50 MHz mode.
 

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40, 33,3, 30, 25, 20 MHz mode.
 

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315 Euro.
 

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315 Euro.


With the Vampire on the horizon ? Seems pricey to me.

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Not too expensive. Original 50 MHz version ACA1232 was 2015. nov-2016. jan. (not available) 300 Euro with soldered CPU. http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/ACA1232
Lot work CPU desoldering, socket soldering, 20-50 MHz testing, etc.
ACA1233n 40 MHz 240 Euro, expensive, FPU not supported.

Vampire on the horizon??? Haha.
The Vampire A600: http://www.apollo-accelerators.com/orders/index.php
"742 people wanting to be vampirized !"
The production of the Vampyre 600, primitive!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyDZnrWYYjY
Vampire A600 and 500 a emulated 68000 CPU in FPGA only. Not finished product.
Vampire A500 available min. in 2017-2018.
Vampire A1200 available min. in 2019-2020.
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With CPU 310 Euro, without CPU 260 Euro.
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The production of the Vampyre 600, primitive!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyDZnrWYYjY
And do you have video of your CPU desoldering and socket installation? Just to compare what is primitive and what is not.

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Vampire A600 and 500 a emulated 68000 CPU in FPGA only. Not finished product.
Vampire 600 V1 and V2 are finished products (CPU card + RTG card + SD drive) and team is actively develop the cores for it.

Back to your card. Few months back I bought Blizzard 1230IV with 128 Megs and FPU for 200 EUR which is usual price these days. So for 120 EUR more people will get from you 2,5 MIPS faster CPU and they will have to invest for FPU socket and FPU chip in advance. Sorry it does not seem to be that attractive price even when I compare this to the newest ACA 1233-55 which I can get new one for 40 EUR more then your tuned ACA.
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310 Euro, without CPU 260 Euro.


Nice board. I don't understand the objection to the price. Its the fastest '30 upgrade available.
So it should be fast AND extremely compatible.
And w/o the processor (which can still be bought fairly cheaply) it seems like a bargain to me.
If cash wasn't in short supply here right now I'd snap it up.

The only disadvantage I see here is no 68882.
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Nice board, since it's a real 030 it's gonna just work. Having toyed with a Vampire even with the eventual price increase on the Vampire you can't ingone the value of a faster than 060 cpu (upgradeable no less) along with a Picasso96 card with hdmi out, and depending on the model decent IDE / SD storage.

I am eager to see the Amiga scene move away from old CPU's that are longer produced to FPGA solutions. I was skeptical at first, but I Can tell you the moment a Vampire drops for theA1200 I will be in there!
 

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Nice board. I don't understand the objection to the price. Its the fastest '30 upgrade available.
So it should be fast AND extremely compatible.
And w/o the processor (which can still be bought fairly cheaply) it seems like a bargain to me.
If cash wasn't in short supply here right now I'd snap it up.

The only disadvantage I see here is no 68882.

The ACA1232 @ 33MHz was approx. 165 euros brand new quite recently.

So lets say second hand with DIP switch installed and CPU socket soldered in, let's say it's worth 115 euros (remember, original CPU is not included in this sale).

Now, with the new 50 MHz rated CPU, add on 50 euros to above price, which brings us back to the original sale price.

With a CPU socket there'd be no room for a fan or heatsink (unless trapdoor removed).

Let's guess that the card may possibly be a good one as it's good for 50 MHz, so let's add 50 euros again. This brings us to 215 euros, WITH CPU, NOT WITHOUT. Also, I think Jen's latest cards are even faster per clock than the 1232. Is it the 1233n. I'd need to check but he has improved them.
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To jack-3d:
Blizzard 1230 cards made in 1994-1995, obsolete. Repair not easy. 128 MB RAM modules extreme expensive (Amibay 35 Euro!), why??? Real price 5 Euro. Dhrystone 8500-9000. CPU on 50 MHz hot.
ACA1232 made in 2012, repair easy, installed 128 MB RAM. Dhrystone 11478. FPU not possible, unnecessary, the Amiga programs 98% do not use the FPU. CPU on 50 MHz NOT hot. 1233-55 360 Euro (dhrystone 11747), minimal faster, than my 1232. CPU NOT socketed! This important!

To Iggy: Thanks.

To Chrom00: The developments progress into a bad direction. The 68000-68060 CPUs is available always yet. The FPGA cards (Vampire) is unnecessary.
Why did nobody build a modern new 68060 card yet???
The old Blizzard, Apollo 1260 cards made in 1996-98, min. 600 Euro. Why?

To Paul1981:
I don't understand what are you talking about. 310 Euro with CPU, 260 Euro without CPU. The CPU+shipping min. 50 Euro from China, the 50 MHz 68030 the most expensive version, this is faster version!
The ACA 1233 cards too expensive. ACA1232 40 MHz in 2012 was 185 Euro, ACA1232 50 MHz in 2015 was 300 Euro, ACA1233 40 MHz in 2014 was 200 Euro, ACA1233n 40 MHz now 240 Euro. Why? 1233 and 1233n FPU not supported.
The best ACA card now the 1232-50.
The ACA1232-50 card will never be available. I prepared one, this rare!
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 Apollo 1260 cards made in 1996-98, min. 600 Euro. Why?


Thank Jens. They can't be made anymore, and he doesn't seem to want to do '040 or '060 accelerators.

Personally, I don't know why no one has made a cheap 68EC060 or 68LC060 based accelerator.
Floating point calculations aren't used much and could be performed by a math library.
And those cpus will clock at 75 MHz or higher.
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Jens will not produce 68040, or 68060 card. This would demand a big investment. About 40000 Euro for development of the first working  68060 prototype card, and at least 800 CPUs for a mass-production. We're easily  talking 600000 Euro investment here.
The new ACA 68060 50-100 MHz card would not be cheaper at the old B1260, Apollo 1260 cards, min. 600 Euro.

The last rev. 6 version 68060 50 MHz 71E41J (usable to 100 MHz) CPU 100-130 Euro. Why? Real price 20 Euro, made in 1997-2000(?).
New PPC card? Nothing. http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/blizzardppc
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