Commodore USA

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The latter is the former presented through a PR person.

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"we've always been at war with Eurasia"

Exactly :lol:

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so either amiga.org is totally not the target group or we dictate corporate policy ?

No, amiga.org just managed to get him to spill his true oppinions about AROS, which... suprise suprise... do not match the nonsense he started off with :hammer:

Somewhat tangentially, do we have any communication from any AROS developers?

AFAIK, none of them care, what matters is submitted code.

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atleast have some decency and speak like grown ups... no need to insult like a child.

Childish insults don't hurt anyone, grown ups use weapons and lawyers, I know what I prefer.

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And that is why we can't have nice things. ;-)

But we can have nice things, but obviously not from Commodore USA.

Ofcourse, I dont have any problem with Commodore USA selling Windows PCs, that's exactly what all the other Commodores have been doing, including CBM. I also don't have any problem with CUSA sticking Amiga stickers on PCs, that's most likely also what old CBM would have done at some point had they not folded (they were quite ready to replace AmigaOS with NT on the PA-RISC based next generation Amiga systems iirc). I also don't give a rats ass about those fantasy drawings on the website, so what if they were "ripped" from aminet, what matters is that it will _never_ materialize - it's all just nonsense and hot air.

All in all I have no problem with Commodore USA at all, it's just great drama for me, I would never ever buy anything from them, since there's nothing CUSA has to offer that I want.

We can set up a bet if you like - if you ever manage to produce the fantasy case in solid quality, with a real solid Amiga keyboard as shown on the render (I'd prefer it to be USB connector internally), with a price tag of max 200 USD - I'd buy several, honoustly, I would.  Fat chance though, huh? :lol:

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You guys have no idea. Not a clue.

And you're so full of clue that it hurts

You look at today and think that is the way it will always be.

No - not at all.

Like companies don't grow and evolve or something.

I have close friends who worked for DEC - remember DEC? I also know people who worked for SGI and Sun - who are you kidding? Many on this board know perfectly well how the business works, we are in the business for crying out loud - just as much as you are, anyways.

Maybe you're used to stagnation in this little Amigaland, entirely due to companies trying to cater specifically to you, and you're never satisfied anyway.

Well - try me, seriously, try me! Amigaland is for me a hobby, and a quite entertaining one. And you're right about me never being satisfied, but that's just the way it is when everything is mandated by the needs of the assumed "most users" to which I do not conform.

I am definitely looking forward to the day when you'll be eating your words.

And exactly which words would that be?

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Let's face it this is a nostalgia thing here, unlike in Europe and other nations where it's still a cult of loyal fanboys.

How ironic then, that it is you have "cult member" status, and not me. :laughing:

It's really time to stop complaining about use of a logo and a name that frankly if the original company was still around you wouldn't be using their products and you would be on to something else if things would have worked out differently.

Wow, you've really paid attention to what people have been complaining about, haven't you. And yes, that was sarcasm.

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I also didn't take the comments as scarcasm, because at the end of Commodore, I heard from a lot of the USA management (not the CATS folks) that they were planning on stepping up PC production in the USA over Commodore-Amiga sales.

But that was not at all what my comment was about - you think people here complain about some company "abusing" the Commodore name? People here in general do not give a rats ass about the Commodore name, which has been "abused" over and over since the days of CBM, for many of us even the old Commodore was "evil". If you had been paying any attention, you would know that this is not what people have been moaning about - and I for one, have pointed out several times that if CBM had been alive today, we would most likely have seen windows based Amiga machines back in the 90ies already.

Btw, I love how you refrain from quoting the messages you comment, assuring that you can "answer" whatever you like out of context, making it so much harder to figure out what the heck you're rambling on about :laughing:

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So why all this fuss over someone using the commodore name.

Sigh - again, that's not what the fuss is about! :hammer:

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There's lots of fuss here, but none of it is related to them using the name "Commodore", and there's also almost surprisingly little fuss about them using the name "Amiga".

The fuss is about:
* using fanart without permission
* shifting positions regarding AROS, the "amiga community", and just about anything
* BigBenAussie "the CTO" has been pestering the Amiga sites that are serving a community for which they officially do not care about, for months with this nonsense
* It is CUSA who say "Look at us - we have the name, WE HAVE THE NAME - you MUST like us!!111"
* Their handling of OSNews.org, which was hilarious
* And ofcourse their general "you're all a bunch of silly amateurs" attitude towards anyone who question their actions, many of whom are well established in the IT industry.

All in all, great drama

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The guy has nothing that I want to buy, but as I say I don't understand why some folk are reverting to what's becoming nothing more than a slanging match.

Because they are bitching back, it's become interactive - I think the word is infotainment