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OS4 terminal emulator w/ ANSI color emulation?
« on: April 05, 2017, 06:14:56 PM »
There doesn't seem to be one out there. Anyone know of one?
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Re: OS4 terminal emulator w/ ANSI color emulation?
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2017, 07:17:02 PM »
Quote from: kolla;824216
No need for any terminal emulation, the "Shell" (console device/handler) of Amiga already supports ANSI colour control codes. As do terminal emulators such as Term, VLT, AmTelnet, AmTerm and probably a whole lot more.


Ah, I was looking at OS4 native apps (OS4Depot).

AmTerm seems full featured, but I can't run it -- complains I'm using an old version of MUI's Term.MCC and it needs V19 or better. I installed OS4 and MUI updates come via 4.1FE's update tool and include MUI, I believe. Also I don't see the file alone anywhere online.

Is it wise to "branch" off and find a different ver of MUI and lay it onto OS4? That seems not a good course, somehow. Thoughts?

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Re: OS4 terminal emulator w/ ANSI color emulation?
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2017, 09:55:25 PM »
Thanks. I want to telnet / ssh into my linux server and visit telnet-based ANSI-based BBS's in color on the SAM440.
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Re: OS4 terminal emulator w/ ANSI color emulation?
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2017, 02:03:48 PM »
I downloaded Term by Olaf -- for '020/'030/etc and it doesn't run under OS4.1FE. It throws the address book icon on the workbench, but does not present a screen itself. And when I try to run it again it complains that serial.device is busy (I want to use it over ethernet for SSH/Telnet tho)- so it seems to be running in some form that is not visible. Any other suggestions?

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In the end I want to SSH/Telnet to a Limux box and have color, ANSI emulation on board.

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Re: OS4 terminal emulator w/ ANSI color emulation?
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2017, 04:19:12 PM »
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You need to use a replacement (fake) serial.device that supports TCP, these can be found on Aminet. That's true for any Amiga Terminal program you might want to use though.
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Thanks. I've searched aminet and OS4Depot and don't see anything like that, aside from one that's speciflcally for AmiTCP. Could you point me to such a .device? I'm on a SAM440ep-Flex btw.

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Re: OS4 terminal emulator w/ ANSI color emulation?
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2017, 05:44:44 PM »
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http://aminet.net/package/comm/tcp/telser140
http://aminet.net/package/comm/tcp/Telser_Keyfile


Thanks.

The installer drops in different .device files (and other files) depending on whether target platform is running AmiTCP, AS225 R2, I-Net 225, or MultiLink. Are you using this with OS4? The odds of this working with OS4 seems slim, unless it's a work-alike to one of the above. Any advice, here? Thanks.
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Re: OS4 terminal emulator w/ ANSI color emulation?
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2017, 07:06:06 PM »
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Is there a reason you don't want to try ssh? Unless you're 'calling' an actual BBS connected to the internet (which would introduce additional requirements like ZModem, that SSH can't provide), I don't see a reason to use a terminal program.


The only thing I want here is the ability to telnet to BBS's and to do so in a terminal that has accurate ANSI color emulation (typically black background, and the various 15 other text colors). So I am not actually going for dialup ability.
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Re: OS4 terminal emulator w/ ANSI color emulation?
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2017, 07:39:36 PM »
Quote from: kolla;824251
Yes, it works with Roadshow, I use it all the time. You need AmiTCP: assign set up, and AmiTCP:bin, AmiTCP:db, AmiTCP:etc and AmiTCP:serv, and then you can just let the installer do its thing. The AmiTCP: paths are hardcded into the binary...Did you ever try AmTelnet btw?


Thank you! AmTelnet is basically what I have been looking for! I don't know why I went with AmTerm, earlier. It installs and runs fine, and is demonstrating ANSI colors and screen animations, etc. Actual ANSI glyphs are not rendering -- it's not using a PC ANSI font, and one is not mentioned in the docs. I also don't see a way to specify font in the MUI options. Not sure how to resolve this, surely there's some way.

Also - and this is more of an OS4 general question, but during installation I noticed several MUI .mcc files were installed in the System MUI directory. The AmTerm install MUI/ dir contains 5 .mcc files. I noticed that:

- Some of the files were not there before (Term.mcc for example) and were installed in the system MUI dirs

- Some did exist in the system previously and were rather different in file size than what the AmTerm install files show. They were overwritten during this install without warning.

- Some did exist in the system previously and were _not_ overwritten, judging from file size differences.

How is the installer making these calls as far as what to overwrite and what not to? Seems overwriting must sometimes lead to trouble. Can't take a sys: snapshot before installing anything, everytime.

Is this something I should worry about, or is this just par for the course as far as app installs on OS4?

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Re: OS4 terminal emulator w/ ANSI color emulation?
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2017, 08:51:28 PM »
Quote from: kolla;824258
Maybe this is of help? :)


How did you get that up? When I go to MUI Prefs within AmTelnet things look generic, nothing specific to AmTelnet II. Thanks.


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Re: OS4 terminal emulator w/ ANSI color emulation?
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2017, 09:52:36 PM »
Many thanks! Looks like the ANSEY font is the best to use, as it is aimed at square pixel aspect ratios. Looks great!


Running AmTelnet (BBS w/ ANSI emulation) under AmigaOS 4.1
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Re: OS4 terminal emulator w/ ANSI color emulation?
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2017, 01:11:48 AM »
Thanks much
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