OS4 terminal emulator w/ ANSI color emulation?

[blakespot]

There doesn't seem to be one out there. Anyone know of one?

[kolla]

No need for any terminal emulation, the "Shell" (console device/handler) of Amiga already supports ANSI colour control codes. As do terminal emulators such as Term, VLT, AmTelnet, AmTerm and probably a whole lot more.

[blakespot]

No need for any terminal emulation, the "Shell" (console device/handler) of Amiga already supports ANSI colour control codes. As do terminal emulators such as Term, VLT, AmTelnet, AmTerm and probably a whole lot more.

Ah, I was looking at OS4 native apps (OS4Depot).

AmTerm seems full featured, but I can't run it -- complains I'm using an old version of MUI's Term.MCC and it needs V19 or better. I installed OS4 and MUI updates come via 4.1FE's update tool and include MUI, I believe. Also I don't see the file alone anywhere online.

Is it wise to "branch" off and find a different ver of MUI and lay it onto OS4? That seems not a good course, somehow. Thoughts?

Thanks.

[cgutjahr]

AmTerm seems full featured

The best Terminal emulation on OS3 was Olaf Barthels Term. Given the author, it's probably safe to assume this is written properly and runs fine on OS4. And it doesn't require MUI which is always a very, very good thing.

What is it that you actually want to do? A port of SSH or (if the server is local) Telnet might be all you need.

Is it wise to "branch" off and find a different ver of MUI and lay it onto OS4?

No. Especially not for a terminal program, there's plenty of alternatives out there.

[blakespot]

Thanks. I want to telnet / ssh into my linux server and visit telnet-based ANSI-based BBS's in color on the SAM440.

[blakespot]

I downloaded Term by Olaf -- for '020/'030/etc and it doesn't run under OS4.1FE. It throws the address book icon on the workbench, but does not present a screen itself. And when I try to run it again it complains that serial.device is busy (I want to use it over ethernet for SSH/Telnet tho)- so it seems to be running in some form that is not visible. Any other suggestions?

Thanks.

In the end I want to SSH/Telnet to a Limux box and have color, ANSI emulation on board.

bp

[cha05e90]

The last time I used Term it *does* run on OS4.1. AFAIK there you have to carefully set it up in regards of interfaces and maybe GUI libs - but it should work.

[cgutjahr]

I downloaded Term by Olaf -- for '020/'030/etc and it doesn't run under OS4.1FE.

I'm 100% sure it used to run under 4.0 and (probably) 4.1, can't remember the exact setup required though - it's been to long.

And when I try to run it again it complains that serial.device is busy (I want to use it over ethernet for SSH/Telnet tho)

You need to use a replacement (fake) serial.device that supports TCP, these can be found on Aminet. That's true for any Amiga Terminal program you might want to use though.

In the end I want to SSH/Telnet to a Limux box and have color, ANSI emulation on board.

Unless said Linux box is local, you shouldn't use Telnet, AmTelnet or any Amiga terminal programs due to their lack of or completely outdated encryption technology.

For SSH'ing into a Linux box I simply used Steven Solie's ssh port. I did have some setup issues with either the cursor keys or the German umlauts (can't remember the details) - but given the upload date of the package now on os4depot, I was probably using an earlier version.

As for how much ANSI the OS4 console supports - no idea. just give it a try.

[blakespot]

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You need to use a replacement (fake) serial.device that supports TCP, these can be found on Aminet. That's true for any Amiga Terminal program you might want to use though.
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Thanks. I've searched aminet and OS4Depot and don't see anything like that, aside from one that's speciflcally for AmiTCP. Could you point me to such a .device? I'm on a SAM440ep-Flex btw.

Thanks



bp

[kolla]

http://aminet.net/package/comm/tcp/telser140
http://aminet.net/package/comm/tcp/Telser_Keyfile

[blakespot]

http://aminet.net/package/comm/tcp/telser140
http://aminet.net/package/comm/tcp/Telser_Keyfile

Thanks.

The installer drops in different .device files (and other files) depending on whether target platform is running AmiTCP, AS225 R2, I-Net 225, or MultiLink. Are you using this with OS4? The odds of this working with OS4 seems slim, unless it's a work-alike to one of the above. Any advice, here? Thanks.

[cgutjahr]

The installer drops in different .device files (and other files) depending on whether target platform is running AmiTCP, AS225 R2, I-Net 225, or MultiLink.

AmiTCP set the standard for Amiga TCP stacks: it makes a bsdsocket.library available that external programs can then use to send TCP requests. All later TCP stacks are compatible with that approach, including OS4's roadshow.

I'm pretty sure people had telser.device running in the early days of OS4. I don't know if it still works with FE though. And frankly, setting this up is not a beginner's job - you might want to try other approaches before going down that route.

Is there a reason you don't want to try ssh? Unless you're 'calling' an actual BBS connected to the internet (which would introduce additional requirements like ZModem, that SSH can't provide), I don't see a reason to use a terminal program.

[kolla]

Yes, it works with Roadshow, I use it all the time. You need AmiTCP: assign set up, and AmiTCP:bin, AmiTCP:db, AmiTCP:etc and AmiTCP:serv, and then you can just let the installer do its thing. The AmiTCP: paths are hardcded into the binary...Did you ever try AmTelnet btw?

[blakespot]

Is there a reason you don't want to try ssh? Unless you're 'calling' an actual BBS connected to the internet (which would introduce additional requirements like ZModem, that SSH can't provide), I don't see a reason to use a terminal program.

The only thing I want here is the ability to telnet to BBS's and to do so in a terminal that has accurate ANSI color emulation (typically black background, and the various 15 other text colors). So I am not actually going for dialup ability.

[blakespot]

Yes, it works with Roadshow, I use it all the time. You need AmiTCP: assign set up, and AmiTCP:bin, AmiTCP:db, AmiTCP:etc and AmiTCP:serv, and then you can just let the installer do its thing. The AmiTCP: paths are hardcded into the binary...Did you ever try AmTelnet btw?

Thank you! AmTelnet is basically what I have been looking for! I don't know why I went with AmTerm, earlier. It installs and runs fine, and is demonstrating ANSI colors and screen animations, etc. Actual ANSI glyphs are not rendering -- it's not using a PC ANSI font, and one is not mentioned in the docs. I also don't see a way to specify font in the MUI options. Not sure how to resolve this, surely there's some way.

Also - and this is more of an OS4 general question, but during installation I noticed several MUI .mcc files were installed in the System MUI directory. The AmTerm install MUI/ dir contains 5 .mcc files. I noticed that:

- Some of the files were not there before (Term.mcc for example) and were installed in the system MUI dirs

- Some did exist in the system previously and were rather different in file size than what the AmTerm install files show. They were overwritten during this install without warning.

- Some did exist in the system previously and were _not_ overwritten, judging from file size differences.

How is the installer making these calls as far as what to overwrite and what not to? Seems overwriting must sometimes lead to trouble. Can't take a sys: snapshot before installing anything, everytime.

Is this something I should worry about, or is this just par for the course as far as app installs on OS4?

Thanks