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Re: iPad 2
« Reply #29 from previous page: March 12, 2011, 09:15:58 AM »
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Gawd... what a sad & crazy statement to make... :(

How on earth could you class someone as an Artist if all they did "was press a button"... :(

What "skills and talent" does it take to carry out this monumental task of pressing a button in order to become an Artist... :(

Oh look, I just pressed the button for me front door bell and it's playing a wee tune, wow I must be an Artist... :D

Without going into my likes & dislikes of what I call music and artists, a simple fact remains if an Artist or Band cant play well live then they are indeed talentless... :)
Technology already exists that can propel totally talentless musically retarded emotionally brain dead morons to massive success, you only have to look at the musically inept "Black Eyed Peas" as a prime example. They can't make music and they are horrible live... The general public love them...

But I've toured with musicians much much more talented than myself, who have never even achieved what little success I did...

I guess popular arts have always been this way, technology will always allow the talentless to suceed, but it will also be used by the brilliant to make something that will be remembered for the rest of civilisation :)

The black eyed peas will be forgotten tomorrow, because they are shit... But other truely tallented artists using the same technology will be remembered. :)






*disclaimer I don't like the black eyed peas.

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« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2011, 09:36:47 AM »
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Please provide examples of these truely talented artists that will be remembered. I want to listen :)


I was thinking of the pioneers of the last 50 years, from the introduction of the electric guitar, the multitrack recording studio, the analogue synth, the sampler and the DAW... All these things have been used and abused... But now we only remember the artists who were good... Not necessarily who were the most popular :)

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The first artist that comes into my head are the Chemical Brothers and maybe Lady Gaga :)

not overly impressed by Lady Gaga, she doesn't write or compose the music (she has "input" to get a credit, but that is often little more than sitting with the production team during a session), but her production team have found a formula that does work and they use it well.
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Overrated would be the Prodigy - they are shit.


I'm no fan of the Prodigy, but Liam Howlett's smapler work on Fat of the Land is exceptional. I would have to say that Fat of the Land was really pushing the boundaries for samplers at the time, it's easy to do all that stuff now... But to do it on a few Roland W-30s and akai samplers in the late 90s was amazing. I would say that if you listen to that album from a technical stand point you will appreciate it more :)

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« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2011, 10:01:27 AM »
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I wouldn't know, but for me they are (just like the Gaga) radio-music. Stuff that I will turn the volume up when I hear while snailing along the Autobahn (read when music ist just background entertainment.

Speaking of the Autobahn, Kraftwerk are an example of remembered pioneers, others produced music using synthesisers around the same time, but we tend to forget them as they didn't do anything great... /me puts Man Machine on iPod :)
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I would never ever buy a record by them and when I really ! listen ! to music I tend to get somewhat away from the mainstream (sometimes only a little bit sometimes right into the land of the bizzare).

Me too, I recently bought Unheilig's last album (Grosse Freiheit)... Probably quite mainstream in Germany, but unusual here in the UK :)
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Who would have thought .....


I know! Weird huh... But the clues were there if you look for them ;) :lol:

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« Reply #32 on: March 12, 2011, 10:05:15 AM »
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Man, haven't heard the W-30 mentioned in ages. Nothing like a keyboard that required floppy disks to load the operating system in before you could use it!
I still have a W-30 here, with 7seconds of sample time you have to be very clever how you use it. I keep it around (much like my Amigas), because it add a very unique "colour" to the audio... 12bit sampler and real analogue filters (and probabaly the age of the components) are just unique :)

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Re: iPad 2
« Reply #33 on: March 12, 2011, 10:24:48 AM »
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*shrug*

DM are mainstream too, doesn't mean I stop buying ....

Another synth/sampler pioneer (and for me, a musical pioneer too).
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Bout Unheilig, my favorite:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NS4UbYdBZE

Love it! :)
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Talking bout somewhat mainstream but still weird on UTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsrR6nSF3TU

Sounds like it was made with Amiga ;) Sisters meet Lotus-Turbo-Esprit :) *


*disclaimer : I really like the sisters, right to the point of admitting being a fan

 
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