Amiga PCs on the way....

[the_leander]

That wasn't really a counter argument.

Since Amiga.org has been here for years (w/o challenge), there's no real threat.

Just a point.

Clearly you didn't bother reading the response directed at you.

Your (and his) "point" is utter bunkum.

Even ignoring for the moment that Amiga.inc have stated in the past that there is no issue with AO,  Trademarks do not work that way.

[the_leander]

So how does Barry define "support in every way possible" ?

Why, as with every shady businessman - that which directly supports Barry is good, anything that can only be defined vaguely as indirect support or simply not, is bad and is rejected out of hand.

Or does his dishonesty extend from copyright infringement to lying in press releases and to potential customers ?

As if you even have to ask

[the_leander]

That is a fair point. According to Altman, when he first started using the Commodore name his license (from a company that apparently was only a licensee itself, and then only for game products) wasn't valid for selling computers. He has since negotiated a license with the proper company and his license for the Amiga name is from Bill McEwen at Amiga Inc.

You know, sooner or later he's going to try that with a company which has lawyers and teeth.

And he is going to get absolutely mauled.

As for my wanting an argument, I was talking to someone else in the thread, not you. Wind your neck in.

Finally LOL@Belia's ideas about Trademark.

You do realise that Apple, amongst others have been lobbying for years about Chinese companies producing and selling knock-offs of their kit, right?

[the_leander]

Seriously, have you never heard of Asprin?  

Apparently you haven't. Aspirin lost its trademark as part of Germany's war reparations after WW1.

Last I checked, Commodore was a company that went bankrupt and as cool as the Amiga was, doesn't nearly come into the same level of ubiquity as Apirin and it's derivatives.

Also, the USA, whilst it may have lost Vietnam, has never been pulverised into submission on its own turf AFAIK.

Also, you are posting in a public forum.  Telling a member of the forum that he shouldn't be getting involved in the discussion is ridiculous.

I told him to wind his neck in because the very thing he was having a pop at me over had been answered in a post specifically replying to him. He may have missed it, but as it was he looked a little silly responding to something said that was unrelated to him.

As for you: pot, kettle, black.

The fact is, he is NOT going to get mauled.  The worst he is going to get is a sternly written letter from the other parties lawyer.  

Apple have form for spanking small companies that commit acts of copyright infringement against them. As do most large multinationals. Watch Slashdot for any length of time and you'll see any number of stories under about big companies going after smaller ones that have taken liberties with their IP.

They'll ignore him now most likely, but the moment they see him turn a half decent profit using their IP, he is royally boned.

You are completely delusional about how these things work.

I'm sorry, I'm still waiting for your backing up of your baseless ad hom against everyone here who disagreed with you on the previous threads about being hypocrites.

[the_leander]

Aspirin is still trademarked in many countries, Germany was not the point.

According to Wikipedia, it isn't in much of the west, or really anywhere that actually gives a crap about trademarks.

In your opinion I may look silly, but since your terse comments rarely reference who your answering let alone actually make a point I'm not worried about who is looking silly and I'm not asking your permission to respond.

Actually, they do reference who I'm responding to, sadly you're incapable apparently of understanding plain English. Try reading instead of skimming.

Please, feel free to quote at random and attack those posts for not answering questions that were answered in other posts.

Your flapping is amusing.

What the hell does the US' actions in Vietnam have to do with anything? And, no, we weren't pulverized in a war on our own turf (unlike Germany in WWII, which by the way they so seriously deserved).

You can't possibly be this obtuse.

Are you even bothering to follow the conversation or have you decided to just quote mine for the fun of it?

Instead of stating your opinions, why don't you back up those statements with rational logic?

Try bothering to read what is actually being said, and in the context it is being said and you might actually get somewhere.

[the_leander]

Having been abused by one too many German posters who assume some level of intellectual superiority, it seemed appropriate to remind our German compatriot that not all German endeavors have been that noble.

And there we have it ladies and gentlemen.

Son, you just went full retard.

[the_leander]

Barry wouldn't do any thing illegal, would he?

Actually, if you look at the Cybernet ZPC9100, I mean Commodore Phoenix manual, it is a FCC Class A device, meaning Barry can't legally sell it for home use.

:eek:

Well then, I guess that's that. Unless he can get the system approved, any other discussion is moot.

[the_leander]

I'll keep my money for SAM and Natami...
...and if I'm going to buy another X86 I would probably get the new 27" Mac, at £1400 with a screen on it worth the best part of a grand it's the first Apple that I've been truly tempted by.

Tbh I quite like the Asus all in ones. Except for the fact they're all using ATI. ATI drivers on Linux is even more of a hateful experience now than it was 5 years ago.

[the_leander]

It's not ATI developing ATI drivers.

ATI are the only ones that produce anything that have hardware accelerated 3d on more than a 9200.

Problem is that they tie their binary blobs a bit too tightly to the kernel and xorg versions, meaning that any given piece of hardware has a very specific service life unless you're willing to live with old kernels and Xorg versions. But it also means that you're severely limited in terms of distros you can use - 9.x or higher versions of ubuntu for instance do not support the 200M that is in my laptop (Nor does Elive 2.0 Stable, unfortunately).

The Open Source ATI drivers provide barely more than the most primitive of framebuffer capabilities on anything more advanced than a 9600. Not even Direct Rendering (2d) is supported much past this chip.

@JJ

Good to know I haven't lost my touch

[the_leander]

Right, read the posting I was commenting on.

Given that you didn't quote what you were commenting on as well as the fact that there are three comments above it that it could have been a comment on, what you're asking is impossible.

[the_leander]

apparently ATI released some new drivers recently so who knows. I've generally stuck with Nvidia and been pretty happy

For windows maybe, but on the Linux side the "new" drivers only cover new gear (and even then not all of it).

Sadly as Nvidia weren't really on the market for notebook graphics when this one was purchased. I'm now in the position where the integrated Intel chip on my netbook now outperforms the Xpress200M that came with my Asus F5.