Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Author Topic: It's 20 years on, and Windows still doesn't have...  (Read 13355 times)

Description:

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline desiv

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2009
  • Posts: 1269
    • Show all replies
Re: It's 20 years on, and Windows still doesn't have...
« on: July 23, 2012, 04:51:39 PM »
I always felt that Microsoft's main problem with their OS is that they keep feeling that they have to change the whole way it works every other major release...

If the way it's working is working for people, you don't HAVE to change it...

But I think they feel people won't buy it unless it's significantly different.

I mean, be honest, how many people think the "Ribbon" is better???  ;-)

desiv
Amiga 1200 w/ ACA1230/28 - 4G CF, MAS Player, ext floppy, and 1084S.
Amiga 500 w/ 2M CHIP and 8M FAST RAM, DCTV, AEHD floppy, and 1084S.
Amiga 1000 w/ 4M FAST RAM, DUAL CF hard drives, external floppy.
 

Offline desiv

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2009
  • Posts: 1269
    • Show all replies
Re: It's 20 years on, and Windows still doesn't have...
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2012, 09:58:15 PM »
Quote from: tone007;701204
Windows is pretty great, I've used daily every version starting with Win3.1 back in the mid-90s.
Really?
I was using Windows before 3.1 (started with Windows 286), and while it was fun to play with, I wouldn't use the word great..  And I did a LOT of work with 3.1. ( and 3.11 - WFW networking was fun...)

At least not until possibly 98 2nd Edition..  That was really good...
(I can see people thinking 95 was great, but I didn't think it was there yet..)

Yeah, 2k was very stable, but there was too much it couldn't do for my tastes..

I'd class XP as a really great OS tho...  Once they got past the initial compatibility issues (got the vendors to update their drivers.. ) that is..

That said, I think Workbench 2.0 was pretty far ahead of the competition from MS...

desiv
Amiga 1200 w/ ACA1230/28 - 4G CF, MAS Player, ext floppy, and 1084S.
Amiga 500 w/ 2M CHIP and 8M FAST RAM, DCTV, AEHD floppy, and 1084S.
Amiga 1000 w/ 4M FAST RAM, DUAL CF hard drives, external floppy.
 

Offline desiv

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2009
  • Posts: 1269
    • Show all replies
Re: It's 20 years on, and Windows still doesn't have...
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2012, 10:58:58 PM »
Quote from: runequester;701225
insisting that the 16 meg's of RAM in your machine were totally not enough to run a game requiring 2 meg's to work.
Was that EMS or XMS?  ;-)

desiv
« Last Edit: July 26, 2012, 12:08:43 AM by desiv »
Amiga 1200 w/ ACA1230/28 - 4G CF, MAS Player, ext floppy, and 1084S.
Amiga 500 w/ 2M CHIP and 8M FAST RAM, DCTV, AEHD floppy, and 1084S.
Amiga 1000 w/ 4M FAST RAM, DUAL CF hard drives, external floppy.
 

Offline desiv

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2009
  • Posts: 1269
    • Show all replies
Re: It's 20 years on, and Windows still doesn't have...
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2012, 03:59:59 PM »
Quote from: warpdesign;701261
What's more constructive for the Amiga ? Pointing out (eventual) Windows flaws ? Pointing out Amiga's own flaws ?.
Constructive for the Amiga?
I'm not expecting anyone to do anything to AmigaOS as a result of this thread. ;-)
I still use 3.1...

It's (for me) not meant to be constructive or destructive.
Just a comparison of different features sets between the 2...

desiv
Amiga 1200 w/ ACA1230/28 - 4G CF, MAS Player, ext floppy, and 1084S.
Amiga 500 w/ 2M CHIP and 8M FAST RAM, DCTV, AEHD floppy, and 1084S.
Amiga 1000 w/ 4M FAST RAM, DUAL CF hard drives, external floppy.
 

Offline desiv

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2009
  • Posts: 1269
    • Show all replies
Re: It's 20 years on, and Windows still doesn't have...
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2012, 10:56:54 PM »
Quote from: persia;701345
Windows 7 is rock solid but it's starting to show it's age.
See, and this is something I don't understand...

Basically, it works well, but the problem is that it's looking old???

If it's designed to work well, and it does work well, why change it?

Just because it's been like that for a while and it's time to change?

I'm not a fan of change for the sake of change...

I love change where it makes sense...

Just me..

desiv
Amiga 1200 w/ ACA1230/28 - 4G CF, MAS Player, ext floppy, and 1084S.
Amiga 500 w/ 2M CHIP and 8M FAST RAM, DCTV, AEHD floppy, and 1084S.
Amiga 1000 w/ 4M FAST RAM, DUAL CF hard drives, external floppy.
 

Offline desiv

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2009
  • Posts: 1269
    • Show all replies
Re: It's 20 years on, and Windows still doesn't have...
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2012, 12:12:19 AM »
Quote from: persia;701384
Because touch is the future
...
We are on the very beginning of a new computer generation.  Windows 7 is the pinnacle of the mouse age, but that age is ending.

I think you've made some big assumptions there, and we have yet to see if they pan out.
Touch is the present, for mobile devices.
It works well in that area...

Touch has been tried and tried and tried for the desktop environment and has yet to succeed.
It doesn't mean that it won't, but I wouldn't say for sure that it is the future.

It might be.  
Gesture might be..
Voice might be..
Some combination of those...

And a keyboard and pointing device of some kind might also be..

I'm not convinced that touch will work with the desktop.
Then again, I'm not convinced the desktop will survive other than in business and some niche areas...

desiv
Amiga 1200 w/ ACA1230/28 - 4G CF, MAS Player, ext floppy, and 1084S.
Amiga 500 w/ 2M CHIP and 8M FAST RAM, DCTV, AEHD floppy, and 1084S.
Amiga 1000 w/ 4M FAST RAM, DUAL CF hard drives, external floppy.
 

Offline desiv

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2009
  • Posts: 1269
    • Show all replies
Re: It's 20 years on, and Windows still doesn't have...
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2012, 09:18:44 PM »
Quote from: 68000_forever;701438
It's 20 years on, and Amiga freaks are still bitching about a succesful operating system.

I think you've chosen a misleading username...  ;)

desiv
Amiga 1200 w/ ACA1230/28 - 4G CF, MAS Player, ext floppy, and 1084S.
Amiga 500 w/ 2M CHIP and 8M FAST RAM, DCTV, AEHD floppy, and 1084S.
Amiga 1000 w/ 4M FAST RAM, DUAL CF hard drives, external floppy.
 

Offline desiv

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2009
  • Posts: 1269
    • Show all replies
Re: It's 20 years on, and Windows still doesn't have...
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2012, 10:22:01 PM »
Quote from: Duce;701449
There's been 100 million iPad's alone sold.


Really?
I thought they were around 50 mil in March and predicting 100 mil by the end of the year.

Still a lot.

desiv
Amiga 1200 w/ ACA1230/28 - 4G CF, MAS Player, ext floppy, and 1084S.
Amiga 500 w/ 2M CHIP and 8M FAST RAM, DCTV, AEHD floppy, and 1084S.
Amiga 1000 w/ 4M FAST RAM, DUAL CF hard drives, external floppy.