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Offline Crumb

Re: PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2010, 10:22:17 AM »
@Gulliver

Good job! I tried to contact him through the greed.nl addresses on february but when the messages bounced back I didn't spend time looking for more recent emails :-)

I have tried to contact with Chaozer for his WarpSDL sdk or sources so we could have fast SDL games on classics but there was no reply even using the more recent email

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Offline fishy_fiz

Re: PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2010, 10:57:15 AM »
Cool stuff. I actually use pfs3 on Amithlon/OS3.9 as from my experiences its the most reliable 68k file system around. Speed wise sfs I think is faster, but that may also be due to better support for harddrive controller of my old amithlon computer.... the difference seems pretty small though in "feel" between the 2 on better supported athlon64 3200+ using sfs vs. core2duo@3.35ghz/not at good well supported core logic chipset/pfs3 (same 120gig ide drive). At a guess I'd say it's about 15 meg for pfs3 and 20 meg for sfs (sure, slow by modern standards, but really there's very little software on os3.x that needs massive throughput, and those that could theoretically benefit will become cpu/ram bound first (although having said that high quality dvd rips, for example, at original resoultion run fine). If anyone wants actual benchmark figures I guess I could set up an sfs partition again to test, but unless someone asks, I couldnt be bothered screwing around with partitions, Im pretty happy with how I've got my os3.9 install setup at the moment  :-)
Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.
 

Offline Crumb

Re: PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource
« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2010, 11:01:48 AM »
@fishy_fiz

if Michiel could find the sources it would be interesting if PFS3 could be updated to support >4GB files (at least on AROS/MOS/OS4/AfA)
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Offline Tahoe

Re: PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource
« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2010, 12:41:05 PM »
Where does Michiel live? If we knew that, some Amiga owner close to him might step up and provide him with the machine(s) needed to source the missing sourcecode.
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Offline recidivist

Re: PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource
« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2010, 01:38:01 PM »
Gulliver,
Well good for you and Michael!
I didn't know anyone was even trying to get old software released.It is sad to know how much good old software will never be available because the company and author have moved on.
A toast to all authors  and owners who make their work available !
 

Offline itix

Re: PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2010, 01:58:50 PM »
Isnt PFS written in 68k asm?
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Offline hardlink

Re: PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2010, 03:04:00 PM »
Quote from: Karlos;553804
An open PFS would be very nice. It is a quality filesystem.


Yes it is. For me the biggest drawback is there is no DiskSalv available for it, which would have been handy a couple of times. Maybe now someone could develop one.
 

Offline Tenacious

Re: PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource
« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2010, 02:48:36 AM »
This is excellent!  I've been using PFS2 since it came out and started with AmiFileSafe (predecessor product).  I thought I had missed the opportunity to get PFS3.  Can't wait.

Thank You Michael and Gulliver!

PFS makes 7MHz Amigas feel very fast and responsive.

@ hardlink

I thought DiskSalv for PFS3 was in the works years ago, but, was never completed.  I have lost HDs that simply had to be reformatted.  Now I run with 2 identicale drives and back one to the other.
 

Offline stefcep2

Re: PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource
« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2010, 03:46:07 AM »
Quote from: Tenacious;554131
I thought DiskSalv for PFS3 was in the works years ago, but, was never completed.  I have lost HDs that simply had to be reformatted.  Now I run with 2 identicale drives and back one to the other.

Well THAT doesn't sound too encouraging!!.  The worst thing that a filesystem can do is lose your data!  I've never had an FFS drive that had to be reformatted, not saying it doesn't happen, but it never happened to me.
 

Offline Tenacious

Re: PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource
« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2010, 04:32:22 AM »
I can only blame my inability to express myself.  

The HDs, after many years, developed bad sectors (I got the HDs used, too).  At the time I was convinced this was brought on by the writing and re-writing of temp files that iBrowse caches onto a small partition.  As a result, I now try never to store those files on a HD.  Since they are soon obsolete anyway, I have only allowed them to gather on the ram disk since then.

The point is that PFS was not at fault.  The HD was.

My only concern was I never found a way to reformat that one bad partition.  After a while, that lost 100megs (out of 4 Gigs, grin) started bothering me.   IIRC, the Amiga wouldn't recognize it to reformat.   I had to move all data (on the other partitions) to another HD.  Then the whole drive could be re-formated, repartitioned, and it then served many more years.  This may have nothing to do with PFS.

To be clear, I think PFS is the fastest and most reliable file system I've used on the Amiga.  If data is important, having backups is fundamental, regardless of the file system it's indexed with.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2010, 04:37:38 AM by Tenacious »
 

Offline delshay

Re: PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2010, 12:46:42 PM »
if and when it gets release it needs to go PPC....PFS4.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2010, 12:48:43 PM by delshay »
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Offline wawrzon

Re: PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource
« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2010, 12:52:02 PM »
Quote from: delshay;554180
if and when it gets release it needs to go PPC....PFS4.


what 4?
 

Offline delshay

Re: PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2010, 01:17:29 PM »
Quote from: wawrzon;554182
what 4?


there is no PFS4 but i do belive there was plans for PFS4. perhaps someone can comfirm this.
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Re: PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource
« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2010, 01:30:48 PM »
Quote from: delshay;554180
if and when it gets release it needs to go PPC....PFS4.

Not really. The filesystem is I/O bound anyway, so there is little benefit from porting it to PPC.

I've used PFS3 as my main filesystem on MorphOS for 10 years now.
 

Offline Karlos

Re: PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource
« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2010, 01:51:58 PM »
Quote from: Piru;554188
Not really. The filesystem is I/O bound anyway, so there is little benefit from porting it to PPC.

I've used PFS3 as my main filesystem on MorphOS for 10 years now.

I don't really see it as a performance issue but at the very least, making a platform-independent version written purely in C would be a good idea such that it can be used with AROS. In doing so you open the door for a PPC native version anyway.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2010, 01:55:00 PM by Karlos »
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