Wow! C-USA's first commercial.

[dammy]

Is this proof enough for you?

What part of this post didn't you read? http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=629038&postcount=176  I already said the Vic Slim was possible a white label box, what more do you want?

Now on the Vic Pro, that is in a customized AIO system, internally and externally.  Your proof for Vic Pro being a white label system is?  Even the photos of the Vic Pro and what it was based on look different.  But you already knew that, right?

[dammy]

What licenses? What testing? What customer support? I don't see any mention of customer support on CUSA's website.

I know the C64x will have live tech support (think it's 24/7 support but it might be only during normal business hours here in the US).  Not sure on the Vic series will have live tech support or not.  There is a lot of information that has not been posted yet to the web site.  I expect it to be posted as time rolls on.

[dammy]

The VIC Pro is a Cybernet ZPC-GX31. What do you think is customized about it?

No, it's based on that Cybernet model which Cybernet customized as per C=USA request.

[dammy]

http://www.commodoreusa.net/j/PhoenixOwnersGuide.pdf

They edited the Cybernet manual a little. It has CUSA's phone # and refers you to a part of the website that doesn't exist.

They also changed the copyright in the manual to ©Copyright 2010 Commodore USA, LLC. I'm not sure how that works. Can I take something that is copyrighted by someone else, change a few words and copyright it myself? Is that legal? Because if it is, I've got some editing to do.

Now the Phoenix was more then likely a white label but we are talking about the Vic Pro, not the Phoenix.  Vic Pro is a customized version of the Phoenix created by and produced by Cybernet.  If I'm wrong, I'm sure Leo will correct me on that one.

[dammy]

Answer the question.

What do you think is customized about it?

It was getting late at night for me and it's been couple of months now since Barry showed us the difference, but the exterior is different, the two have different mold colors. Something about black and silver around the keyboard were different on the exterior between the two.  I seem to remember that the mobo position was moved, think it was in reference to a new mobo with WIFI.  Barry wanted to make it very clear that the Vic Pro was different then the Cybernet model.

[dammy]

http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_VICPro.aspx

Click on the Gallery tab then download the "VIC-Pro Owners Guide" from the link.

Nothing customized about the VIC Pro beyond the standard options Cybernet offers, and a sticker, of course.

I think I just now noticed they mixed and match the Vic PRO and the Cybernet model pictures on the web page.  Notice some show black surrounding the keyboard, top heat vents, and the glide mat area and some show silver instead.  Silver one has the C= logo on it which is the Vic-Pro, the black is the standard Cybernet model.  Leo needs to redo the images used.

[dammy]

So, you're saying the VIC Pro looks like this : http://www.cybernetman.com/files/siteContent/photo_downloads/2/Top_layer_ZPC_look.jpg

Now that is an exact outer match.

[dammy]

That's the Cybernet ZPC-GX31.

Now that we've established that the outside is exactly the same, and the inside is exactly the same, do you still believe what Barry told you?

OK, I'm wrong.  I was extremely tired by that time of night (and I had to travel home yet) and as such, I didn't remember the conversation correctly.  My fault, no one to blame but me.  Barry was talking about the primary ODM/OEM which would be making the new Vics for long term production.  I was shown Cybernet's and that is where I got screwed up.

Flame away, I deserve it.