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Title: Wii Opera browser
Post by: Louis Dias on December 22, 2006, 10:16:51 AM
is what i am using this second
it is incredibly fast rendering pages
Title: Re: Wii Opera browser
Post by: koaftder on December 22, 2006, 10:18:58 AM
How do you type in messages on the Wii? Is it easy?
Title: Re: Wii Opera browser
Post by: skurk on December 22, 2006, 10:20:07 AM
Hi,

I got my Wii yesterday and must say it's one of the most entertaining consoles I've played with for years.

How did you install Opera?  Just by performing a regular update?
Title: Re: Wii Opera browser
Post by: Homer on December 22, 2006, 10:22:02 AM
Do you surf the web by waving your arms around ?
Could be good for getting rid of persistant trolls  :lol:
Title: Re: Wii Opera browser
Post by: fx on December 22, 2006, 10:29:34 AM
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How did you install Opera? Just by performing a regular update?


It's in the Wii Shop Channel, available for free.

I'm also impressed by the speed but it feels a little lacking in functionality. But it's still Beta so hopefully it will have more features when the final version is released.
Title: Re: Wii Opera browser
Post by: TheMud on December 22, 2006, 12:05:19 PM
Oh gee... Surfing the web by throwing the arms around :-O Now you actually can get hurt by browsing the net  :-D
Title: Re: Wii Opera browser
Post by: NoFastMem on December 22, 2006, 12:25:49 PM
Eh...

People have been jerking their hands about while surfing the net for years.
Title: Re: Wii Opera browser
Post by: Louis Dias on December 22, 2006, 12:32:59 PM
Ok

I'm at work now and can spend more time replying despite a couple of trollish comments...

Holding and moving the Wii-mote to the top of the screen or bottom scrolls the page in the appropriate direction.  I was in 16x9 480p mode so there was no need for horizontal scrolling.

So much for the theory that the trolls in my "potential ppc Amiga real cheap" thread that you couldn't run a browser with less than 128MB and a hard drive.  Despite the fact that I had IE running on WinCE devices with only 32MB.

Typing is fairly painless.  Click on a textbox and a keyboard entry screen pops up.  As you click on keys, a line of possible words shows up below the text area on this screen that suggests about 7 words that you might be typing so if you see the one you want, just click on it and then click [SPACE] and repeat until you are done.

Strangely I has a black border at the top of my screen.  I wonder if it's using some non-standard resolution that my Samsung DLP 50" didn't quite know how to handle.  Everything was fairly readable from 10 feet away with the exception of the smaller text in the "Who's Online" listing over to the right-side of the Amiga.org page.

Now when watching football, I don't have to run into the other room to get a scoreboard update from NFL.com, I can just switch video sources and keep the page up.  Joy!
Title: Re: Wii Opera browser
Post by: NoFastMem on December 22, 2006, 01:40:52 PM
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lou_dias wrote:

I'm at work now and can spend more time replying despite a couple of trollish comments...


Oh yeah, it's an out-and-out flamewar up in here.
Title: Re: Wii Opera browser
Post by: Louis Dias on December 22, 2006, 01:52:15 PM
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NoFastMem wrote:
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lou_dias wrote:

I'm at work now and can spend more time replying despite a couple of trollish comments...


Oh yeah, it's an out-and-out flamewar up in here.


History has proven that is doesn't take much here...
Title: Re: Wii Opera browser
Post by: LoadWB on December 22, 2006, 02:01:17 PM
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lou_dias wrote:

So much for the theory that the trolls in my "potential ppc Amiga real cheap" thread that you couldn't run a browser with less than 128MB and a hard drive.  Despite the fact that I had IE running on WinCE devices with only 32MB.


Who said this?  My Sony Ericsson T637 used Opera Mini and had it's own fairly functional browser on no hard drive and around 3.5MB RAM.  I've used Palms (with their crappy Blazer browser) with about the same or less.  My new K790a has NetFront which does VERY well.

Anyway.  I wonder if it's not so much the browser software and CPU horse-power causing limitations or the OS.  I'm having a hard time believing that we can't at least get a modern mini-browser ported over to the Amiga.  With all of the OSS development on software and various libraries, it is almost difficult to understand why we do not see more for the Amiga.

Almost... first off, Linux and GPL/OSS development has moved a lot from being spare-time things to commercial or otherwise supported with some potential for real income (note that I did not say ALL development has moved in this direction.)  Work for the Amiga has little potential for big profit returns and is mostly a labor of love.

(And before someone starts riding me about "well, then why don't you write your own $PROGRAM," (a standard Linux Elitist response, BTW,) the gf has bought me Cubic for Christmas, and I already own SAS/C.  Who knows... I might be able to squeeze out some stuff over the next 12 months.
Title: Re: Wii Opera browser
Post by: realstar on December 22, 2006, 02:04:55 PM
I also installed the Wii browser a few minutes ago. It's pretty darn good for a first release. I noticed YouTube works perfectly and it's fun watching videos on the TV. It does decode pages remarkably quick but I wish I could increase the scroll speed, although with zoom in and out you don't need to scroll much. :)
Title: Re: Wii Opera browser
Post by: Tomas on December 22, 2006, 07:15:42 PM
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How do you type in messages on the Wii? Is it easy?

You use the remote to point at the letters on the virtual keyboard. It is slower and more hassle than a real keyboard but much better than using a standard game pad for typing.
It also has flash support and worked even fine with youtube and similar sites.
Does anyone know if it is possible to get onto irc with it? it seems to me like it lacks java support.
Title: Re: Wii Opera browser
Post by: Tomas on December 22, 2006, 07:16:52 PM
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How did you install Opera? Just by performing a regular update?

Just go into the wii shop channel and download it for free under software. It is not labeled as opera though.
Title: Re: Wii Opera browser
Post by: adonay on December 22, 2006, 07:35:39 PM
 :crazy: seems that norwegian web browser is getting quite far..
Title: Re: Wii Opera browser
Post by: Argo on December 23, 2006, 03:12:14 AM
http://www.opera.com/pressreleases/en/2006/12/22/
Title: Re: Wii Opera browser
Post by: InTheSand on December 23, 2006, 11:44:52 PM
I'm quite tempted to get a Wii, and I have a sizeable collection of GameCube titles that will hopefully run on it...

But I'm cautious of repeating the "mistake" I made - rushing out to buy a GameCube shortly after they were launched, then discovering that there were less games and that PS2/XBox games cost half as much when on special offer whereas the GC had no such offers (at least in the UK), and then moving to NZ and finding the GC has pretty much stuff all support out here...

But from what everyone's saying, it looks like a fun machine, and the browser functionality certainly increases its appeal.

 - Ali
Title: Re: Wii Opera browser
Post by: WOWZER on December 24, 2006, 02:06:33 AM
I cant wait untill xmas when I can open mine.............uh I mean when my daughter opens her's. The browser will be the first thing I do with it when she is asleep.
Title: Re: Wii Opera browser
Post by: Argo on December 24, 2006, 02:31:10 AM
You know, If you were a good father, you would preconfigure it before giving it to her.  :-D
Title: Re: Wii Opera browser
Post by: WOWZER on December 24, 2006, 02:50:47 AM
That will be part of the fun of doing it together. Hopefully it wont be very difficult to get that wii controler dialed in.
Title: Opera 9 SDK for Devices
Post by: Nautilus on December 24, 2006, 03:03:43 AM
Hyperion could license Opera 9 SDK for Devices for OS4:
http://www.opera.com/products/devices/technology/sdk/ (http://www.opera.com/products/devices/technology/sdk/)
Title: Re: Wii Opera browser
Post by: iamaboringperson on December 24, 2006, 09:37:39 AM
Do you know what's more fun than using a web browser on your new Wii? Playing games on it!