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Title: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: amigakit on April 12, 2020, 06:38:18 PM
(https://www.amisphere.com/images/amistore/icons/ImageFX_sm.jpg)
Happy Easter!

A-EON Technology Ltd (http://) is pleased to confirm that ImageFX 4.5 Studio for OS3 is available to download from Amisphere Server

Customers that have previously purchased and registered the AAA Bundle can download the ImageFX software.  New customers can purchase it from AMIStore App Store.

To download, either login to the AmiSphere (https://www.amisphere.com) server, AMIStore App Store (http://www.amistore.net) or use the Updater (http://wiki.amiga.org/index.php?title=Updater) utility.

(http://wiki.amiga.org/images/0/0c/Imagefx4_toolbar.jpg)

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(http://www.amistore.net/images/available_from_amistore.png) (http://www.amistore.net)


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Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: OlafS3 on April 12, 2020, 09:15:18 PM
what new does it offer for OS3 user?

Is there a demo version?
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: TribbleSmasher on April 12, 2020, 09:42:25 PM
As we have now massive amounts of memory, it might be a good idea to format the info requesters memory display to MB/GB. ;)
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: Rob on April 13, 2020, 02:45:24 AM
what new does it offer for OS3 user?

Is there a demo version?


http://os4depot.net/?function=showfile&file=graphics/edit/ifx.lha
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: DrProcton on April 13, 2020, 07:44:32 AM
I registered to Amisphere but there's no way to buy the software.. The only way to buy imagefx is using the AMIStore OS4-only app..
So only an OS4 user can buy this OS3 software, this is crazy..
As I don't have any intention to buy neither a Tabor nor a X5000 to buy a 30 euro software for my a1200, someone will explain me how a classic amiga user can buy this??
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: amigakit on April 13, 2020, 12:26:05 PM
Hi

ImageFX 4.5 Studio can also be purchased from the ImageFX website (http://apps.amistore.net/imagefx).
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: DrProcton on April 13, 2020, 02:37:08 PM
Thank you!!  I see the 'boxed cd' option is not functional.. There will be a phisical buy option for ImagefX?
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: amigakit on April 13, 2020, 03:02:22 PM
It is now functional on the ImageFX website (http://apps.amistore.net/imagefx), please retry.

Here is the direct link:   https://amigakit.amiga.store/product_info.php?products_id=12691
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: DrProcton on April 13, 2020, 03:26:50 PM
Ok, just ordered, together with a copy of PPaint 7.3!!
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: amigakit on April 13, 2020, 03:32:46 PM
Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: walkero on April 13, 2020, 03:32:58 PM
@amigakit
At the new ImageFX website the bottom buttons do not work right.
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: amigakit on April 13, 2020, 03:37:43 PM
@walkero

Thanks :-) Fixed now.
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: DrProcton on April 14, 2020, 02:16:02 AM
@amigakit
Is the Amiga 68k 'enhancer software' CD still in development or is an abandoned project?
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: kolla on April 14, 2020, 04:47:14 AM
@amigakit

"AmiSphere User Agreement Terms & Conditions" is a page that says "Error: File Not Found" - does that mean one can safely presume that there aren't any terms and conditions?
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: 10MARC on April 14, 2020, 04:56:05 AM
I just ordered my copy. I own ImageFX 4.3 but cannot find my "Disk 1" - so this is wonderful!
I am very excited to try this out - it will supplement Art Department Pro quite nicely!

Thanks for releasing this!
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: OlafS3 on April 14, 2020, 08:37:22 AM
I have ordered ImageFX

how can I download it?
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: amigakit on April 14, 2020, 08:54:23 AM
@OlafS3

Thanks for the order.

The digital purchase has been added the Amisphere user account you opened.  Login here with those Amisphere user details to download: www.amisphere.com
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: OlafS3 on April 14, 2020, 08:57:43 AM
thanx

I have lost the registration details

Could you send me them again please?

I already own Personal Paint so I had something
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: amigakit on April 14, 2020, 09:04:10 AM
You have an email.
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: 10MARC on April 15, 2020, 06:00:27 PM
There seems to be a problem while installing this on a AmigaOS 3.1.4 install that has been installed over Amiga OS3.9 (so you can still use Reaction)
On test installs, as soon as ImageFX is loaded and you reboot, the resource.library stops working, so almost any Reaction software will fail. In my case it kills Amidock, and won't let me open some prefs.
I am currently restoring my entire SYS: folder to see if it fixes it.
I have not tested to see if it breaks AmigaOS 3.9 installations, but will try that later.

Addendum: restoring the entire SYS: partition gets me back and running - next I will try just restoring "Libs:", although to be honest, resource.library seemed untouched.

Addendum 2: The same problem occurs with a pure Amiga OS 3.9 installation. It reports that resource.library cannot be loaded on a reboot. It is most definitively overwriting something that it should not be overwriting.
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: kolla on April 16, 2020, 04:38:16 PM
Wild guess - it steals the LIBS: assign so that it no longer points at SYS:Libs, SYS:Classes etc.

Perhaps there is a typo somewhere - what did it write to S:User-Startup? Perhaps there is an "Assign LIBS: ...." that lacks an "ADD"?
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: 10MARC on April 17, 2020, 01:32:14 AM
Wild guess - it steals the LIBS: assign so that it no longer points at SYS:Libs, SYS:Classes etc.

Perhaps there is a typo somewhere - what did it write to S:User-Startup? Perhaps there is an "Assign LIBS: ...." that lacks an "ADD"?
Good thought. going to LIBS: brings me to the normal place. I suspect they replaced some library that resource.library needs, as resource.library seems to itself remain intact. I am going to dig thru the installer script to try and find the culprit.
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: TribbleSmasher on April 17, 2020, 05:53:56 AM
The installation protocol did not reveal anything suspicious?
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: walkero on April 17, 2020, 12:22:53 PM
I would say check the installation script and search with .library or LIBS: to see what exactly it does. Unfortunately, I don't have it here to check it myself.
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: 10MARC on April 17, 2020, 04:23:18 PM
I got the problem fixed with the Amiga OS 3.9 / 3.1.4 upgrade fixed. The installer is doing something to the SYS:classes/gadgets or SYS:classes/images files. I initially assumed it was the "chooser.gadget" or the "bevel.image" file that was overwritten, as those are the only two files that the installer overwrites. Copying them from a known working folder individually did not seem to solve it, but when I copied the ENTIRE contents of the SYS:classes/images and SYS:classes/gadgets folders from a working installation to the corrupted one, it works!
Note that this was tested on three different installs - two of which were Amiga OS 3.9 with Amiga OS 3.1.4 installed over it using the script, and the third was just a native AmigaOS 3.9 install.
Until the devs fix the issue with the installer, the best solution is to back up your entire "SYS:Classes" folder prior to installation, and manually restore it when you are done... If not things like Amidock, the entire prefs files, and anything that needs resource.library will totally fail.
I will reach out to Matthew Leahman directly in case he does not catch this thread.
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: amigakit on April 17, 2020, 04:37:12 PM
Ill take a look at the installer this weekend and fix it.  Thanks for your reports.
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: amigakit on April 19, 2020, 12:46:20 PM
I checked the installation and it copies over bevel.image and chooser.gadget which are now outdated in OS3.9.  If you install with advanced mode then it should warn you that you are copying over an older version.  However for a more robust solution, I added a version check for both files and it does not copy over the two files in intermediate or novice modes now if you have newer versions already installed.

New installer added to ImageFX image and uploaded to AmiSphere server.
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: nbache on April 19, 2020, 04:19:00 PM
@amigakit:

Quote
I added a version check for both files
Just a matter of using copylib instead of copyfiles, I assume?

Best regards,

Niels
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: amigakit on April 19, 2020, 04:47:04 PM
@nbache

I checked and Copylib is already used in the code but for some reason, it seems from the reports here that the classes were still being installed.    My extra checks bypass the classes installation if ReAction is already used.
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: kolla on April 19, 2020, 06:34:50 PM
@amigakit
“outdated”? By what? If YOUR classes make Os 3.9 components fail, YOUR classes have compatibility problems and should not be distributed.

Now what was it Thomas was writing about such things? What does Minious say about this?

Also, a reminder that AmiSphere Terms&Conditions are still “Error: File Not Found” and many of the services that require login credentials on on amiga.org do not work with https - GDPR dictates that you shall protect user data as best possible, something you keep failing at - too many web servers and domains to maintain perhaps? A big shoutout to amigapassion.co.uk and amigastore.eu!
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: amigakit on April 19, 2020, 07:37:57 PM
@kolla

I think you misunderstand the situation.  The classes included with ImageFX are necessary for it to work with older versions of Workbench- lots of users are not running OS3.5 or later.  It will not work without it being in the package.  However, in later OS3.5, 3.9 etc these were updated.

So if we assumed that everyone has compatible classes then all users less than 3.5 will be unable to use the application.

Going forward we will be replacing the classes with newer software that we have developed over recent years such as our Select Gadget.  So far this has been on the Enhancer Software for OS4 but it will make an appearance on OS3 and ImageFX will benefit.
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: TribbleSmasher on April 19, 2020, 07:50:12 PM
@amigakit
do you serve a documentation website where interested users can lookup the benefits of those new classes and learn how to integrate them into their own projects?
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: amigakit on April 19, 2020, 07:57:18 PM
The website is:

http://wiki.amiga.org

Thanks
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: 10MARC on April 20, 2020, 05:40:23 PM
@amigakit Thanks for figuring that out and offering a solution. I did the installs in "Intermediate" and not "Advanced" so it just overwrote those files.

@kolla sometimes your advice can be so helpful, and sometimes you just sound sassy. We were just trying to get to the bottom of the error here and resolve it, not open a can of worms.
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: kolla on April 20, 2020, 08:53:41 PM
Right, so I misunderstood, and read it as classes distributed with ImageFx were newer than those distributed with OS 3.9 - but I now understand that the opposite is the case.

But regardless, these classact/reaction classes are several cans of worms in both technically and legally.

So what version of bevel.image and chooser.gadget? Old ClassAct versions? Came along with ImageFx when acquired from Nova? If so they may very well have license issues, as the ClassAct license specifically says that distribution license is NOT transferrable, and rights are only granted to original company, and new owners must get new license. And current owner is Hyperion, apparently, is Hyperion :)


Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: trekiej on April 21, 2020, 12:15:17 AM
If I buy the C.D. will I get a letter saying how to avoid the install error?
I can not access Amisphere.
Sorry if that is a horrible question.
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: 10MARC on April 21, 2020, 07:05:31 AM
If I buy the C.D. will I get a letter saying how to avoid the install error?
I can not access Amisphere.
Sorry if that is a horrible question.

A really good question, actually. It only happens in Amiga OS 3.9 (maybe 3.5 if anyone still uses it). If you have 3.1 or 3.1.4 you are fine.
If you install in "Advanced" mode it will warm you that it will over write the two files in question, and you can choose "no" and be ok.
You can also back up the entire SYS:/classes folder, and restore it after the install and it puts the correct files back. It does not cause Workbench to not load, just breaks certain parts of it. Hope that helps!

Addendum: It does seem that if you just restore bevel.image it will likely solve the issue. Just make sure you have a backup of it before installing on an AmigaOS 3.9 system
Title: Re: ImageFX 4.5 Studio Download Available On AmiSphere Server
Post by: Minuous on April 21, 2020, 09:15:59 AM
What does Minious say about this?

I agree with you, in this instance.