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Offline kolla

Re: Does Install erase a disk?
« Reply #29 from previous page: September 18, 2021, 07:58:17 AM »
Then, for classic Amigas/68k, some other developers made 3.1.4 and 3.2 based on 3.1 plus some 68k reimplementations of some of the 4.x parts as well as some other improvements
For 3.1.4, they weren’t “other developers”, they were pretty much the same ones that also worked on 3.5 and 3.9, most of the key components also came from 3.9 just as much as from 3.1 directly, only a few came via 4.x. The only missing 3.9 components were all the ReAction classes and resource.library, and software relying on these, essentially all OS3.9 Reaction based prefs programs. Oh, and HDToolBox (and hdwrench.library) by Joan Dow. With 3.2 ReAction classes and various other components/features were ported/reimplemented back from OS 4.x, and some developers replaced in the process. Noteworthy is that key developer and one if the two original initiative takers of 3.1.4 and arguably the most influential OS 3.2 developer (you know who), left the OS team long before its release, and is now seen arguing with some of the current developers (the usual very opinionated suspects) over certain choices done for the OS 3.2 release. So I would argue that the REAL end-of-line OS release for A2000 (and the other 68k systems) is currently on the hard drive of ThoR :)

And this brings us back to what Amiga is REALLY about - drama! - arguing, whining, bickering, blaming, entitlement, huge egos, besserwissers, splitting, forking, hacking, patching… :)
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Offline nbache

Re: Does Install erase a disk?
« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2021, 11:55:50 AM »
For 3.1.4, they weren’t “other developers”, they were pretty much the same ones that also worked on 3.5 and 3.9,
Agreed, and thanks for the correction. I did actually plan to formulate this differently, but got distracted and forgot.

What I thought about was that some of the developers closest to H&P, not least Jochen Becher, took part in the "dead end", if it was, where their sources never went into the OS repository (for good or bad reasons, not my place to judge). Therefore those modules weren't available as parts/basis for neither 4.x nor 3.1.4/3.2.

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most of the key components also came from 3.9 just as much as from 3.1 directly, only a few came via 4.x. The only missing 3.9 components were all the ReAction classes and resource.library, and software relying on these, essentially all OS3.9 Reaction based prefs programs.
Thanks for that clarification too - as I wrote, I haven't used these later 3.x releases or been as close to their creation as I have been to the others.

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Oh, and HDToolBox (and hdwrench.library) by Joan Dow.
Joanne, actually (sorry for nitpicking :-)). But she left already after 3.5, IIRC.

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So I would argue that the REAL end-of-line OS release for A2000 (and the other 68k systems) is currently on the hard drive of ThoR :)
Oh dear, sounds like a sad, but recognizable story ...

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And this brings us back to what Amiga is REALLY about - drama! - arguing, whining, bickering, blaming, entitlement, huge egos, besserwissers, splitting, forking, hacking, patching… :)
Indeed. Wish all that negative energy could be reversed and put to better use.

Best regards,

Niels