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Re: Teleportation breakthrough with atoms =D
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2004, 07:08:01 AM »
I think the whole 'matter cannot be made or destroyed' principle gets rid of the idea that you can simply make something blink out of existence then back in again.  It has to go somewhere and back again.

 

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Re: Teleportation breakthrough with atoms =D
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2004, 04:57:45 PM »
Yep, I knew the whole matter conservation thingy.
What I meant was if the orignal atom was changed in anyway by the experiment.
 If for example, you could scan a nice fluffy bunny wabbit and create a replica at the other end(out of matter found there), would the original end up looking like one of the failured experiments from "The Fly", or would it still be hopping around oblivious to what just happened?

And then there`s the silly questions that pop into my mind late at night...
 If cloning/duplication by this method worked, I could make a clone of myself.
 What would happen if I shot my clone?
 Would I be convicted for murder or for commiting suicide ?
 Since the original me is still alive, would it be a crime at all ?
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Re: Teleportation breakthrough with atoms =D
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2004, 05:09:57 PM »
sry mikeymike,
Got to pull you up there...


In fact matter can be created from `nothing`, er as in virtual particles (which are as real a `normal` particles), but the trick is to do it in as small amount of time possible...

The electricity in all the wires that have ever `flowed`, for example, were/are all virtual particles. (Each electron, is created and destroyed to form the illusion that a particle is moving along the wire.)





[I won’t go into the details of how black holes radiated energy with the creation/use of virtual particles here...]

[Er, nor quantum tunneling]

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Re: Teleportation breakthrough with atoms =D
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2004, 05:47:05 PM »
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The important part here is not that you can transmit information, but that you can transmit it instantaneously - faster than light. Theoretically you could communicate to somewhere in the Andromeda galaxy this way, in an instant.
that means we can have the Universe Wide Web (UWW) someday. and being able to get porn on Pluto or Alpha Centauri is quite a great achievment! (seriously).

personally, i can't wait! :lol:

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Re: Teleportation breakthrough with atoms =D
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2004, 06:25:58 PM »
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 2. As well as its potential use as a teleport, couldn`t it be used as a duplicator?
the state of an atom can be transferred, but putting it on its on place in a three dimensional axis is kinda hard I think
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Re: Teleportation breakthrough with atoms =D
« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2004, 06:37:45 PM »


Hum, it's just like the carpet (space-time) instantaneously reaches all the wall of a room; but things on the carpet have to travel no faster than light speed...


 Unfortunately information is lost, due to Heisenberg uncertainty principle, and the Special Theory
Of Relativity...


So porn may be sent but you can`t know if it arrived unscrambled, or if it arrived at all, faster than light speed.


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Re: Teleportation breakthrough with atoms =D
« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2004, 12:23:34 PM »
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Doobrey wrote:
 2. As well as its potential use as a teleport, couldn`t it be used as a duplicator?
the state of an atom can be transferred, but putting it on its on place in a three dimensional axis is kinda hard I think


It would provide a great foundation for light-year-"resistant" walkie talkies (that year of lag really dampens the conversation). I doubt anything beyond communication will come of it though
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Re: Teleportation breakthrough with atoms =D
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2004, 02:34:07 AM »
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Hum, it's just like the carpet (space-time) instantaneously reaches all the wall of a room; but things on the carpet have to travel no faster than light speed...


No, it really is instantaneous. It works by quantum pairing entanglements, so called EPR. So the Andromedans can get Debbie Does Dallas this aeon after all.
 

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Re: Teleportation breakthrough with atoms =D
« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2004, 04:03:35 AM »
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that year of lag really dampens the conversation.


Not really, it`ll be just like trying to phone my ISP`s helpline..
 "Hello and welcome to CheapCo, calls cost 50p per minute,calls could last as long as 37 years".
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Re: Teleportation breakthrough with atoms =D
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2004, 08:16:53 PM »
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Hum, it's just like the carpet (space-time) instantaneously reaches all the wall of a room; but things on the carpet have to travel no faster than light speed...


No, it really is instantaneous. It works by quantum pairing entanglements, so called EPR. So the Andromedans can get Debbie Does Dallas this aeon after all.
I don't think so - I'm sure I've read that quantum teleportation doesn't allow information to be transmitted faster than light (eg, see http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SpeedOfLight/FTL.html#9 ). And besides, this would violate special relativity, I haven't heard anyone claim that this has happened as a result of these experiments.
 

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Re: Teleportation breakthrough with atoms =D
« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2004, 08:18:19 PM »
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I think the whole 'matter cannot be made or destroyed' principle gets rid of the idea that you can simply make something blink out of existence then back in again.  It has to go somewhere and back again.
You mean "energy cannot be created or destroyed". Matter is a form of energy, and it can certainly be created to and from other forms of energy.
 

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Re: Teleportation breakthrough with atoms =D
« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2005, 03:30:56 PM »
If teleportation is supposed to happen, then how come we haven't had anyone from the "future" visit us?! :-D

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Re: Teleportation breakthrough with atoms =D
« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2005, 03:35:22 PM »
Because humanity will kill itself off withing ten years...
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Re: Teleportation breakthrough with atoms =D
« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2005, 04:25:39 PM »
Hum,
I think your scrambling in too much of the temporal aspect to the phenomena of quantum entanglement/tunnelling...

It is true, if you travel faster than light the arrow of time does point backwards, but the particles that get teleported aren’t actually moving… (They’re in both places at the same time, sort of thing)



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Cherenkov radiation

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Re: Teleportation breakthrough with atoms =D
« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2005, 05:33:46 PM »
Thought for the day. If c represents an asymptote in the relativistic equations for time, mass, length in the direction travelled etc, assuming a particle on the brink of crossing that asymptote could pass it, the first effect of time's arrow reversing would be that it would immediately jump back the the point in time just before it crossed it....

Or something bizzare. Assuming you can get past the weirdo effects of the undefined (tends towards infinite) mass etc before you crossed that asymptote.

There's nothing random about cherenkov radiation. It's cool :-) What I can only describe as an "optical boom" :-D
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Re: Teleportation breakthrough with atoms =D
« Reply #29 from previous page: February 04, 2005, 04:36:13 PM »
Everything starts from somewhere.

This is just the begining of something bigger.

Give it time, maybe the sort of time that will be in about 150/200 years that we will be using this sort of tek.

Why is it, that these Sci-Fi series have a lot in them that actualy are in use today.

Dandare the vidoephone, we have mobile phones that do video now.

Startrek with there communicators in the first Startrek.
Do mobile phones now come close to this?

Its exciting to say ther least.  I would say that in about 150/200 years there will be a lot of this going on teleportation mode.

But it will take a brave human to do the first ever teleport ation.
Would you do it for the first ever time after being told its all failsafe and you wont come to any harm?

Not me thanks, I will be a bit worried in case my arm comes out of my ass, and one of my eyes will be sticking out of me ear.

 

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