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Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« on: November 01, 2012, 04:53:12 PM »
But don't they know? PPC is dead! Dead dead dead dead dead! Aorg members with a clear preference for other architectures keep saying it, so it must be true!
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Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2012, 05:07:50 PM »
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God damn it. How many times do I have to say it.

You're a bad consumer! Go out and buy !
Oh, how right you are...I'll run right out and purchase a Wii? Or should I save for a WiiU? No, maybe I'll get a 360 or a PS3, then I can run Skyrim! It's just too bad there isn't a console out there to represent PowerPC anymore...
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Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2012, 05:10:38 PM »
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Aren't those the guys with the cooling issues?

Still a screaming machine tho...
As far as I know, only the iMac G5s really suffer from cooling issues, as they wisely crammed a computer with a notoriously warm-running CPU into a flatscreen for style >:/ The Power Mac G5 has plenty of room in the case and multiple large fans, so it moves heat pretty good. Doesn't stop it from being a noisy sumbitch, though.
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Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2012, 09:39:45 PM »
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g5 will definitely benchmark much faster than amigaone x1000...
We'll have to see on that one. 2.5GHz vs. 1.8GHz is a fair difference, but the x1000 does have a DDR2-1067 FSB as opposed to the G5's DDR400.
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Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2012, 03:33:10 AM »
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It's getting easier and easier to track down a compatible machine.
Now if only they'd suppport TiBooks...
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Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2012, 05:23:48 PM »
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ibook support as well as support for more Powerbooks is under way, since the ADB is no more a prob for the MorphOS Team.
Well, yay.

(I suppose it's too much to hope for that the PowerBook G3 Lombard I nabbed at the recycle center yesterday would be supported?)
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Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2012, 07:00:43 PM »
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I seem to recall from one of the FAQs that they won't support G3s at all.
Well, yeah, but I thought that had to do with the ADB issue, and that's apparently solved now. (Though I dunno, was ATI as free with documentation on the Rage series chipsets as it was with Radeons? That might be an issue.)

Anyway, it'd just be nice - the Lombard is too slow to run OSX pleasantly, but it should handle an Amiga-derived OS perfectly fine, I'd think...
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Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2012, 09:33:15 PM »
Hmm. It really would be sweet to be able to put that Lombard to use...
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Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2012, 10:59:47 PM »
Exactly. As I said, even the 400/500MHz Pismo G3 is only just sufficient to run OSX 10.4 and barely handles TenFourFox, but by Amiga standards that's downright luxurious. Add in the fact that these go for a good deal cheaper than the G4s, and I think they'd be perfectly decent MorphOS machines...
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Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2012, 03:50:57 AM »
People get too hung up on YouTube anyway. Obviously you're not going to get Blu-Ray playback on a 333/400MHz processor, but that doesn't make the machine useless. And given that I could go on eBay right now and buy a PowerBook G3 and a MorphOS license for about what some people pay for just the PowerBook G4, I really think it might be to their advantage, at least as a starter-system option.
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Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2012, 05:58:36 AM »
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I would never support any sort of bounty for closed source commercial software.
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Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2012, 07:21:32 AM »
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Wasnt there issues with the built-in monitor for the emac not being that great? And thats before factoring in a 10 year old CRT lifespan..
Good CRTs can last a lot longer than ten years - I have an IBM EGA monitor coming up on thirty that still works like new - but yes, the eMac is notoriously chintzy. Dark screen, video glitches, bad caps, the works.
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Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2012, 09:14:05 AM »
Some G3s are Old World (the Beige Power Mac G3 and G3 All-In-One and pre-Lombard PowerBooks,) but most are Open Firmware. As far as I know, all the New World G3s use ATI Rage-series graphics (except the Blue & White Power Macs, which support a variety of PCI video cards.)

It is true that some MorphOS hardware can be had for a fairly modest price, but 100EUR is still a far cry from what you can get G3 hardware for - I got the Lombard for $10, and again, I could go on eBay and purchase a 400/500MHz Pismo, buy a MorphOS license for it, and total about what a lot of PowerBook G4s go for. I just think it would help lower the barrier-to-entry even further.
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