3G iPhone

[A4000_Mad]

8-)

Does this new iPhone have a good camera and is it able to capture and play DVD-Like video? Can you Bluetooth files to your mates with it?
 

[motorollin]

@quarkx
I also like Palm OS. Before I had my iPhone I had a Treo 600 and I loved it. But the iPhone is more stable and better integrated than Palm devices. I really don't care who the device is made by. It really irritates me when people accuse me of being an Apple "fanboy" or whatever just because I have an iPhone. I use the iPhone because I like it more than the alternatives, not because it's made by Apple.

@A4000_Mad
The iPhone 3G's camera is the same as the previous iPhone. It can't capture DVD quality video, but it can play back high quality video. You can't (AFAIK) send files to other people via bluetooth. Fortunately for me, none of those features are important in the slightest.

[bloodline]

quarkx wrote:
Hey, I used the iphone, and I got rid of it within the first week I had it.

:lol: Seriously how dumb do you have to be to not be able to figure out an iPhone?

No, that's a serious question! I honestly don't know..

 I have an older Treo 680, that (other than the OS crashes every once and a while) I would recommend any day over the iPhone- besides the palm OS has hundreds of thousands of free apps,

Just like the iPhone...

 it can do everything and more better than the iPhone and its 2 years older.

I get it now, your first sentence was a LIE... It you had really used an iPhone you'd be embarrassed that you posted this sentence.

The hype has snowballed so out of control, its too funny. If Steve packaged up his feces in a nice shiny metal acrylic case, and called it the iCrap, it would sell.

It probably would, But I wouldn't find much use for it... I think you are just jealous... no one would give you anything for your {bleep}e...

[quarkx]

Hey, I NEVER SAID I couldn't figure it out,I just didn't like it at all - so please Don't put words in my mouth. I didn't like the way the texting worked, the layout of the unit, I could go on and on- etc. Face the facts, some people don't think the Iphone is God's gift to humanity. I much preferred my Treo. the Treo was / is a lot simpler if you are use to the Palm OS. For someone that had the Palm since almost day 1 (started with the original Pilot Pro).
But hey, lets have this debate in a year from now, when all the hoopla has faded away and the next big phone will be out.

[bloodline]

quarkx wrote:
Hey, I NEVER SAID I couldn't figure it out,I just didn't like it at all. I didn't like they way the texting worked,

Yeah, qwerty can a bit hard to figure out... no wait...

they layout of the unit etc.

Once you figure out that with a touch screen, when you touch the screen where the icon is, that activates the icon, then you start to get a feel for the device.

I much preferred my Treo. the Treo was / is a lot simpler if you are use to the Palm OS.

I know, change is hard!

[quarkx]

Umm, I think you sarcasm is misplaced. The Treo also has touch screen, Icons and a REAL Querty keyboard. The treo has its (long list) of faults also, but Like I said, after a week of using the iphone, I was not impressed enough to keep it. You are misguided to think everyone loves the iphone or will love it once they get their hands on it. But hey! keep up the good blind faith marketing for APPLE. They love you for it.
(now my sarcasm is misplaced :-o )

[bloodline]

quarkx wrote:
Umm, I think you sarcasm is misplaced. The Treo also has touch screen, Icons and a REAL Querty keyboard. The treo has its (long list) of faults also, but Like I said, after a week of using the iphone, I was not impressed enough to keep it. You are misguided to think everyone loves the iphone or will love it once they get their hands on it. But hey! keep up the good blind faith marketing for APPLE. They love you for it.
(now my sarcasm is misplaced :-o )

Oh yeah, that's really sarcastic... :roll:

[the_leander]

I can see where you're comming from with regards the iPhone being the next amiga, but, respectfully I must disagree, I personally would argue that the EeePC would be a better fit - it takes comparatively modest hardware and does a huge amount with it (with Xandros), further, it is cheep and easy to use.

I have played with the iPhone and really do like it, no doubt this will also brand me a fanboi, just as would my previously owning a Newton would...  :roll:

[bloodline]

the_leander wrote:
I can see where you're comming from with regards the iPhone being the next amiga, but, respectfully I must disagree, I personally would argue that the EeePC would be a better fit - it takes comparatively modest hardware and does a huge amount with it (with Xandros), further, it is cheep and easy to use.

The iPhone operates in the mobile space, the EeePC while ultraportable, is still very much in the desktop mould. They don't overlap markets, so I have no problem with your definition.

I have played with the iPhone and really do like it, no doubt this will also brand me a fanboi, just as would my previously owning a Newton would...  :roll:

I'm absolutely in love with my iPhone. As, I'm sure you've found your EeePC, it totally fits with my lifestyle :-)

[the_leander]

bloodline wrote:

the_leander wrote:
I can see where you're comming from with regards the iPhone being the next amiga, but, respectfully I must disagree, I personally would argue that the EeePC would be a better fit - it takes comparatively modest hardware and does a huge amount with it (with Xandros), further, it is cheep and easy to use.

The iPhone operates in the mobile space, the EeePC while ultraportable, is still very much in the desktop mould. They don't overlap markets, so I have no problem with your definition.

Add a huwaei E220 hsdpa modem for £50 pay as you go and it'll do the intarwebs very nicely too :-)

I have played with the iPhone and really do like it, no doubt this will also brand me a fanboi, just as would my previously owning a Newton would...  :roll:

I'm absolutely in love with my iPhone. As, I'm sure you've found your EeePC, it totally fits with my lifestyle :-)

Definately, the thing that would put me off using an iPhone is that I do a huge amount of typing, I suspect that after just a few chapters of Legacy I would have killed large portions of any touchscreen device  ;-)

I was in the process of building a full desktop after my last one got nicked from storage, however, my monitor blew up and I was given a choice - £200 to get the bits I had been given by Karlos up and running and a new monitor, or an EeePC that I could take with me no matter where I went.

I'll still build the desktop, I do like a couple of games that the EeePC simply cannot run, but for now, it's my only computer and in truth, I've never been happier.  :-D

[quarkx]

Apple is thinking about bring back the Newton! Although, I don't see a reason for it because of the Touch.
Link


But, I am looking at a Blackberry for my next phone, the curve is Identical to the Treo, but without a touch screen, and far less apps.

I don't use my EEEPC at all anymore , now that I have a full size laptop. The unit was nice, and the size and weight, but the 4 gig SSD was the killer for me. ASUS now has models with regular 30-40 gig drives, so I might look at one of those.

[the_leander]

quarkx wrote:
Apple is thinking about bring back the Newton! Although, I don't see a reason for it because of the Touch.
Link

I don't see the reason for a new newton because of the iPhone or Treo or any number of smart phones - all of them have the functionality the Newton and later Palm devices had *and* have the ability to make phone and data calls. The PDA as I see it is pretty much obsolete at this point.

quarkx wrote:
But, I am looking at a Blackberry for my next phone, the curve is Identical to the Treo, but without a touch screen, and far less apps.

Why not get another treo then?

quarkx wrote:
I don't use my EEEPC at all anymore , now that I have a full size laptop. The unit was nice, and the size and weight, but the 4 gig SSD was the killer for me. ASUS now has models with regular 30-40 gig drives, so I might look at one of those.

Given your blood hatred of Linux yeah, I'd say your ownly option would be one of the hd based variants. If you weren't so against Linux I'd suggest trying Elive on it.

[quarkx]

LOL, if you go back and actually read my post, no where did it say I hate linux. But hey keep thinking what you want. I am a Microsoft supporter, but even I hate Vista. oh, well.
I own a computer store, and I can't keep the EEEPC in stock, but everyone I have ever sold (over a 100 just last month alone), the customer has demanded XP installed.I don't hate linux, I just don't use linux and get a huge kick at how the Zelots re-act to anti -linux comments. I do hink 4 gig SSD drive are totaly useless for anything. Even if I did run linux, I would want to put movies and such on my EEEPC for traveling, and defiantly more than one.4 gigs is just not enough to store anything on these days. In order to make it usable, you have to buy extra SD cards.

the_leander wrote:

quarkx wrote:
Apple is thinking about bring back the Newton! Although, I don't see a reason for it because of the Touch.
Link

I don't see the reason for a new newton because of the iPhone or Treo or any number of smart phones - all of them have the functionality the Newton and later Palm devices had *and* have the ability to make phone and data calls. The PDA as I see it is pretty much obsolete at this point.

quarkx wrote:
But, I am looking at a Blackberry for my next phone, the curve is Identical to the Treo, but without a touch screen, and far less apps.

Why not get another treo then?

Unfortunately, Palm is not really updating the PALM OS anymore (not even made or owned by PALM) and is mostly going to Windows Mobile. The Blackberry is quickly becoming the standard, especially in the business world. Eventually, I will be called on to service and support Blackberry products. Windows Mobile has a good head start here in Canada, but it's the Blackberry that will be number 1 in a year or so.

[the_leander]

quarkx wrote:
LOL, if you go back and actually read my post, no where did it say I hate linux. But hey keep thinking what you want.

I'm sorry, you start off with an anti linux rant, so excuse me if I am mistaken in seeing you as someone who dislikes linux.

If that isn't the case, try Elive.

quarkx wrote:
 I am a Microsoft supporter, but even I hate Vista. oh, well.

I think everyone hates Vista, not sure it's entirely deserved, but ya, seems to be pretty much universal.

quarkx wrote:
I own a computer store, and I can't keep the EEEPC in stock, but everyone I have ever sold (over a 100 just last month alone), the customer has demanded XP installed.

It'll be interesting to see what'll happen when these folks find their OS is orphaned in what, a years time or so?

quarkx wrote:
I don't hate linux, I just don't use linux and get a huge kick at how the Zelots re-act to anti -linux comments.

Ah, so you enjoy trolling.

K, noted.

quarkx wrote:
 I do hink 4 gig SSD drive are totaly useless for anything. Even if I did run linux, I would want to put movies and such on my EEEPC for traveling, and defiantly more than one.4 gigs is just not enough to store anything on these days. In order to make it usable, you have to buy extra SD cards.

I can't argue that - first thing I did with my 2Gb version was buy a 4Gb USB stick to do the same.

That said, without the movies, 2Gb is plenty for my needs - text takes up surprisingly little space.

quarkx wrote:

the_leander wrote:

quarkx wrote:
But, I am looking at a Blackberry for my next phone, the curve is Identical to the Treo, but without a touch screen, and far less apps.

Why not get another treo then?

Unfortunately, Palm is not really updating the PALM OS anymore (not even made or owned by PALM) and is mostly going to Windows Mobile. The Blackberry is quickly becoming the standard, especially in the business world. Eventually, I will be called on to service and support Blackberry products. Windows Mobile has a good head start here in Canada, but it's the Blackberry that will be number 1 in a year or so.

Its Access who own them now, they also own (through the palm deal) BeOS.

I doubt we'll be seeing any releases from Access any time soon tbh. Shame because PalmOS 6 was shaping up to be very, very cool.

[A4000_Mad]

motorollin wrote:


@A4000_Mad
The iPhone 3G's camera is the same as the previous iPhone. It can't capture DVD quality video, but it can play back high quality video. You can't (AFAIK) send files to other people via bluetooth. Fortunately for me, none of those features are important in the slightest.

Thanks moto,

I'll have to get a closer look by heading to the O2 shop and pretending I'm about to buy one :-D

[Speelgoedmannetje]

the_leander wrote:

Its Access who own them now, they also own (through the palm deal) BeOS.

I doubt we'll be seeing any releases from Access any time soon tbh. Shame because PalmOS 6 was shaping up to be very, very cool.

Too bad... My Palm M100 was a joy to work with, unfortunately it died. :-(
I've worked for a short time with a Windows PDA (to program a little program in C#), and it's utter SH*TE, it's really, really bad. It punches the user in the face, so bad is it's user unfriendlyness. And with that, it's unreliable.
Anytime I choose an old M100 rather than the newest of the new Windows PDA's.