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Offline nicholas

Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2013, 03:46:03 PM »
He may or may not be a Philanthropist but he is most certainly not an Altruist.
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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2013, 08:36:48 PM »
And contrary to how the movie Pirate of S.V. will tell you, or how 99% of the Gates documentaries will tell you, the Gates family has been a huge player in the world of commerce for quite a long time! His mother was close friends with the head of IBM and was the one to arrange the meeting where in he could try to sell them DOS.
 Likewise, if you will look up TED and Bill Gates on Youtube, there is a video where he is discussing making vacinations available that will not only help save lives, but also help fight agains the alledged world over population problem, though he never stops to explain how a vaccine meant to preserve life, will help prevent it from over flowing...

...subversive birth control?

 Well either way, he said there will be plenty to go around for third world nations such as the land now known as Africa.

 At least Jay Miner told things straight...

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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2014, 03:47:19 AM »
Jay Miner was a smart Mofo.  That's all I've got to say about that.  Actually, I'll have to say that I think he and Richard Stallman would have been awesome to see in the same room talking about Software freedoms and Computers being used to further divide society.

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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2014, 03:55:46 AM »
Eugenicist, promoter of Agenda 21, his father was the former head of Planned Parenthood.  He even admitted on stage that vaccines can and should be used to reduce population.  How do you think that can be accomplished?  I can think of only two things:  death and sterility.
 

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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2014, 04:34:47 AM »
My god, the cynicism in this thread. As someone who works in global health, I can tell you that the claims made here range from wildly inaccurate to utterly delusional.
 

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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2014, 07:16:22 AM »
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My god, the cynicism in this thread. As someone who works in global health, I can tell you that the claims made here range from wildly inaccurate to utterly delusional.


I had just ignored the tripe until now.
It's a psychological global constant Gates=Evil tall poppy, therefore any stories about him doing good must be wrong, or I am wrong. How could I be wrong?. Must prove gates is evil. Don't need any real evidence just social science and whammo. I'm safe and secure in my warm bubble of what's wrong with the world.

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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2014, 08:15:18 AM »
There's certainly a mixed bag of opinions here!

I suppose part of considering whether he is a philanthropist or not is in your understanding of exactly what philanthropy is. To me, it is "the act of giving with the intention to help". Whether it be time, advice, money, assets, knowledge or whatever. So based on my understanding he is most certainly a philanthropist.

But, is he a philanthropist with an alternative agenda of personal gain? Possibly - whether it be concious or sub-concious.

But who can TRULY say that when they perform an act of philanthropy that they aren't expecting SOMETHING in return. *** NOONE *** can. If you say you're not, you're lying. You may not think the return is significant, or tangible, but there certainly is something you get in return - whether it be a warm fuzzy feeling, all the way up the scale to a monetary gain.

Grain of salt on this one - as whatever way you look at it, he HAS GIVEN a lot, in a lot of different ways to people in all corners of the globe. And that, is something he should be proud of. :D
 

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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2014, 05:23:34 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vzFeiKH1jQ

Remember that global warming and the idea that CO2 is somehow evil is a lie told to get you to agree to carbon taxes, tyranny, and the goals of Agenda 21.  Real environmentalism and pollution reduction is a good thing.  Fake environmentalism used to push a political agenda is not.

I'd estimate that around 80% to 90% of the population in the US and probably all of the western world is totally oblivious to what's going on.  The global banking elite want a world population reduction of between 85% and 98% depending on who you ask.  And as George Carlin said, it's a big club, and you ain't in it.

Bill Gates is one of those who is promoting these dangerous ideas... the culture of death.  He is not your friend.
 

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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2014, 06:10:58 PM »
Clicked on link.  Read discription.  Hit the thumbs-down.  I suppose Bill Gates is also one of those reptilians, trying to take over the world?

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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2014, 06:27:43 PM »
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vzFeiKH1jQ

Remember that global warming and the idea that CO2 is somehow evil is a lie told to get you to agree to carbon taxes, tyranny, and the goals of Agenda 21.  Real environmentalism and pollution reduction is a good thing.  Fake environmentalism used to push a political agenda is not.

I'd estimate that around 80% to 90% of the population in the US and probably all of the western world is totally oblivious to what's going on.  The global banking elite want a world population reduction of between 85% and 98% depending on who you ask.  And as George Carlin said, it's a big club, and you ain't in it.

Bill Gates is one of those who is promoting these dangerous ideas... the culture of death.  He is not your friend.

Did you vote for a capitalist last time you voted by any chance?
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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2014, 07:04:30 PM »
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Did you vote for a capitalist last time you voted by any chance?


We're long past the point where voting matters.  I haven't voted in a long time.

By the way, I like the idea of capitalism.  The US isn't capitalism.  At least not anymore.
 

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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2014, 07:08:56 PM »
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Clicked on link.  Read discription.  Hit the thumbs-down.  I suppose Bill Gates is also one of those reptilians, trying to take over the world?


Thanks, I'm aware of the lizard people conspiracy theory.

Did you actually watch the video?  You know, it's actually Bill Gates stating his opinions in a public forum.  No lizards involved.
 

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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2014, 07:57:51 PM »
I watched the video and i think it's confirmation bias. It's just playing with words.

For the record i think he is right. The population is too large. It needs to be reduced. In 3rd world countries there are people giving birth to up to 5 + children but can barely support one.
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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2014, 08:05:38 PM »
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We're long past the point where voting matters.  I haven't voted in a long time.

If voting changed anything it wouldn't be allowed.

I think it was Winston Churchill who said "The greatest argument against democracy is spending five minutes in the company of the average voter."
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By the way, I like the idea of capitalism.

Then you will always be at the mercy of banks.

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The US isn't capitalism.  At least not anymore.

Well it certainly isn't socialism you've got over there. Fascism perhaps but that's just another word for unchecked capitalism.
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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #29 from previous page: January 16, 2014, 08:09:55 PM »
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I watched the video and i think it's confirmation bias. It's just playing with words.

For the record i think he is right. The population is too large. It needs to be reduced. In 3rd world countries there are people giving birth to up to 5 + children but can barely support one.


The problem with population reduction is that those proposing it are hypocrites, they will not cull their own families, only those in third world countries.