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Re: Music player for windows
« on: November 21, 2013, 04:32:23 PM »
WinAmp and all its websupports ends on december 20th. WinAmp development has been terminated, so on long term you need a new player.

Especially if security leaks are found in the existing version, you ran out of options.

There is a small chance it gets open source one day.
 

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Re: Music player for windows
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2013, 12:55:02 AM »
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I swear, the Cult of Constant Updates is really getting on my nerves...

I call it insane to use windows software without installing all updates. This includes non system stuff, too.

Most trojans and viruses come through bugs in third party software not up to date and WinAmp is a target worth attaching because of its number of active users. Especially when updates are not provided for a while.

Not updating stuff like java and flash (if installed) is the best way to get your system infected quite easy.

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Re: Music player for windows
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2013, 02:28:41 PM »
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Which totally matches up entirely with my having used old (not even remotely current) versions of Winamp for over a decade and never once having been infected via it. Definitely a huge risk.

Just turn the damn Internet features off. It's super-freaking-easy.


Oh, my god. You really have no clue how this works. Ever heard about gif or jpg files infecting a system? No? Poor you.

Hacking can be done by a prepared file. You just need to download the right media file, it triggers a bug/overflow/underun and boom.

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never once having been infected via it.


lol, is there a help bubble reporting "This trojan brought to you by Flash"?

People like you keep bot nets and the virus checker industry alive.

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Re: Music player for windows
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2013, 09:17:01 PM »
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No, I haven't, because GIFs and JPEGs do not contain executable code. There is no possible way they could be a vector for infection unless A. you were using some kind of malware image-viewer program that deliberately executed some kind of metadata in the EXIF information as if it were code, and you just happened to view specific images that contained a virus payload designed specifically for that viewer, or B. it's actually a VBScript or other executable file named something like picture.jpg.vbs (in which case it's not actually a GIF or JPEG) and you've got extension hiding in Windows turned on so you only see picture.jpg, in which case it's your fault for not turning extension hiding off to prevent exactly that.

I swear, next you're going to tell me that "hackers can turn your computer into a bomb!"

You once again proved to have no clue how this works. Of course there are .gif or .jpg files which are simple scripts or even executables hidden in mail attachments. Those are not ment here.

I talk about manipulated image files, where e.g. some numberic information for decoding is simply wrong and triggers a crash. In such case the guy who manipulated the file planted code inside the image file and uses the "crash", which normaly would happen, to run exactly that data. So, yes. There can be executable data in any media file and it can infect your system, if it is used by the matching version of application, where the bug is still in.

This is exactly what is used to e.g. hack a system using a word document. Or those manipulated PDF files, or even movies where codec errors are used to get control over your system, by letting them crash.

That is why it is important to keep stuff which you frequently feed with data from some external source up to date. If you only create your own PDF or AVI files, that quite ok, but when it comes to surfing, you will get any virus in the world for free, if you just pick the right file download and display it.

There is no need to double click a mail attachment. Even the Playstation2 gets hacked that way. You simply plant a modified DVD Player onto MemoryCard and the console crashes even before the Playstation Logo appears and shows the hacker menu. It does it all the time, because the PS2 does not even have flash memory. It got hacked because the Firmware in ROM has a bug, which gets used to launch own software.

Just visiting the right websites may causes your system to be taken over, because you did no apply the latest fixes for media decoding or the browser itself.

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