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Re: Phase 5 Digital Products comeback?
« Reply #149 from previous page: December 13, 2017, 11:30:33 PM »
Quote from: Chucky;834071
Well I have tried to populate one of those boards (having 2)

but failed due to the fact that those boards totally lacks any ground.

and I guess that's why we never have seen any booting prototype. they simply will not work.

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I did miss it so thanks for posting and honestly your findings didn't surprise me at this stage though I still hope that new Phase 5 boards get released for those that didn't get them first time around or for the many that sold them and desperately want them back :-) personally I still have my oriignal Cyberstorm MKIII and absolutely nothing or no one will pry it from my A4000:hammer:
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Re: Phase 5 Digital Products comeback?
« Reply #150 on: December 14, 2017, 12:59:24 AM »
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...or for the many that sold them and desperately want them them back..:


I’m in that club.  :hammer:
 

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Re: Phase 5 Digital Products comeback?
« Reply #151 on: December 14, 2017, 06:16:20 AM »
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I did miss it so thanks for posting and honestly your findings didn't surprise me at this stage though I still hope that new Phase 5 boards get released for those that didn't get them first time around or for the many that sold them and desperately want them back :-) personally I still have my oriignal Cyberstorm MKIII and absolutely nothing or no one will pry it from my A4000:hammer:


Yeah it would be great..  but sorry this will not happen with the current holder of the data.
 

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Re: Phase 5 Digital Products comeback?
« Reply #152 on: December 14, 2017, 09:16:17 AM »
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Yeah it would be great..  but sorry this will not happen with the current holder of the data.

I accept what you're saying and why you're saying it, but honestly It's hard to predict.

It could easily be that between him and the manufacturer they screwed up the ground plane and the guy is too proud to accept it. That doesn't mean that he won't privately have taken you seriously. Or even if he didn't, then he'll figure it out soon enough when someone else tells him the same thing.

It's only a real problem if they don't have the ground plane layout at all.

Of course, people should be wary of putting money into any scheme like this. It's still too early.
 

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Re: Phase 5 Digital Products comeback?
« Reply #153 on: December 14, 2017, 10:54:36 AM »
he have been going on for 2 years.  he had aprox 1 year to assembly prototypes, he accuse ME of damagin the board something that is IMPOSSIBLE.
just all of this all points to: he doesn't have the knowledge needed to pull this off.

remenber.. ONE person. handling ALL!  managment, distribution, support etc of Phase5 TOTAL productline, while he can't even do a simple thing as prove me wrong by grabbing a 10eur crappy multimeter and show.  

or actually go to the A32 in time and show prototypes.  remember that production was promised (again!) to be up in Noveember (you know.  14 days late now) so by then he should havbe prototypes.

sorry.. no will not happen.  and I am still so scared that there are people sending in money like 1000eur in prepayments and then end up in nothing.

Company is 2 years old and all they have "produced" is like 5 B1260 PCBs (I guess they also lack GND. he haven't showed other), 2-3 MIRRORED BPPC PCBs, and 3-4 BPPC PCBs without ground (where I have 2)


Sorry but with the current person holding the data, we will never see new P5 hardware. too sad.  and as he have the data. it would not take long to produce a prototype, I would done it in well. 1 month?
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Offline AJCopland

Re: Phase 5 Digital Products comeback?
« Reply #154 on: December 14, 2017, 12:21:04 PM »
At this rate it'd be quicker to go the A3660 route and reverse engineer an A1260 board.
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Re: Phase 5 Digital Products comeback?
« Reply #155 on: December 14, 2017, 01:38:16 PM »
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At this rate it'd be quicker to go the A3660 route and reverse engineer an A1260 board.


Reverse engineering any P5 products would be like handing him a legal fruit basket.

Easier to ask Jens for Apollo 1260 designs, with promise to fix whatever is wrong with them :)
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Re: Phase 5 Digital Products comeback?
« Reply #156 on: December 14, 2017, 02:03:17 PM »
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Reverse engineering any P5 products would be like handing him a legal fruit basket.
:)

It's safe to assume he doesn't own any rights. We (amiga-news.de) asked him about it more than a year ago, and the answer was... telling. He certainly doesn't own any Firmware rights according to Ralph Schmidt.
 

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Re: Phase 5 Digital Products comeback?
« Reply #157 on: December 15, 2017, 03:29:05 AM »
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sorry.. no will not happen.  and I am still so scared that there are people sending in money like 1000eur in prepayments and then end up in nothing.

I'm not worry. If they sent THAT kind of money as pre-order - without even seeing working prototype(?) that is purely their choice.

BTW. I just designed time machine. I'm taking pre-orders. Only $1000 for personal use. I will post few pictures on Facebook...soon. ;-)
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Re: Phase 5 Digital Products comeback?
« Reply #158 on: December 15, 2017, 04:04:20 AM »
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BTW. I just designed time machine. I'm taking pre-orders. Only $1000 for personal use. I will post few pictures on Facebook...soon. ;-)


Already bought and tested one!

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Re: Phase 5 Digital Products comeback?
« Reply #159 on: December 15, 2017, 02:33:33 PM »
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I'm not worry. If they sent THAT kind of money as pre-order - without even seeing working prototype(?) that is purely their choice.

BTW. I just designed time machine. I'm taking pre-orders. Only $1000 for personal use. I will post few pictures on Facebook...soon. ;-)


This guy's onto something.  Here's proof you can make money with a time machine: https://locu.li/tMek