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Title: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: orb85750 on January 24, 2010, 10:10:00 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190366740455&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: redrumloa on January 24, 2010, 10:13:55 PM
Wth???
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: tone007 on January 24, 2010, 10:16:29 PM
It's the custom heatsinks and the good battery leak cleanup job, gotta be!
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: KThunder on January 24, 2010, 10:21:51 PM
That is a very clean, nice looking system but holy cow! thats a lot
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: Crom00 on January 24, 2010, 10:49:29 PM
Quote from: KThunder;539980
That is a very clean, nice looking system but holy cow! thats a lot


I can KIND OF understand a brand spanking new Quickpack built A4000T for this price.... actually wait up a sec... no I can't... WTF?

I can hear the logic of the seller before posting this...
"Well If the new X1000 is going to cost $1000 or more then my new condition A4000 is definatley worth $1300..."

I can also hear a hypothetical conversation at A-eon company meeting:"

"Hey guys if like new A4000 Desktops are are going for $1300 on ebay we should really charge more for the first new Amiga in years....$2000 is fair considering what Amiga collectors are willing to pay for vintage hardware."
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: Boudicca on January 24, 2010, 10:49:34 PM
Quote from: KThunder;539980
That is a very clean, nice looking system but holy cow! thats a lot


Its must be the seller and a mate pushing the price up against each other trying to catch a sucker at the last minute or theres another amiga4000 somewhere so they are pushing the price out of range using dummy accounts.

No ones that stupid ;)
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: orb85750 on January 24, 2010, 10:59:43 PM
That would be a clear violation resulting in the seller losing his account, so I doubt it.  Never underestimate how crazy some people are.  Is the high bidder on this board????

Quote from: Boudicca;539983
Its must be the seller and a mate pushing the price up against each other trying to catch a sucker at the last minute or theres another amiga4000 somewhere so they are pushing the price out of range using dummy accounts.

No ones that stupid ;)
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: tone007 on January 24, 2010, 11:03:12 PM
Quote from: orb85750;539986
That would be a clear violation resulting in the seller losing his account


They'd have to prove it.
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: Hell Labs on January 24, 2010, 11:11:52 PM
That's completely and utterly bonkers. I'd pay that much, if it was a commodore made 4000T, along with a video toaster and flyer, the fastest ppc and 060 card, best rtg card, commodore monitor, big fat sony trinitron, as much ram as possible, copies of every workbench from 3.0 to 4, a dvd burner, big hard disk. if it was new in box, and only if it was all new in box. I looked at the bid history, it's definately the same two guys driving the price up. they make me sick.
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: Boudicca on January 24, 2010, 11:14:18 PM
Quote from: orb85750;539986
That would be a clear violation resulting in the seller losing his account, so I doubt it.  Never underestimate how crazy some people are.  Is the high bidder on this board????


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmsuDVJRlRw

If they get caught....or even exist.
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: KThunder on January 24, 2010, 11:18:29 PM
i wouldnt pay more than 200 for any classic hw. that means i dont buy alot of stuff. its russian roullette buying old stuff you never know if the next time you switch it on is the last.
old pc hw: who cares; a cassic miggy in mint cond. that sucks.
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: Nlandas on January 24, 2010, 11:22:30 PM
Quote from: Boudicca;539983
Its must be the seller and a mate pushing the price up against each other trying to catch a sucker at the last minute or theres another amiga4000 somewhere so they are pushing the price out of range using dummy accounts.

No ones that stupid ;)


I think you hit the nail on the head. Look at the number of bidders with few bid history. I bet this is a price drive to see if they can net a sucker.
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: tone007 on January 24, 2010, 11:23:48 PM
Lets ask Nishtek!
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: Tajmaster on January 24, 2010, 11:26:33 PM
It baffles me how people can pay stupid money for obsolete hardware that could fail at any moment and requires any number of patches and add-ons to use in some cases.
Dont get me wrong, Id love to be on the recieving of that amount of money for what is essentially a bog standard A4000 but theres no way its worth a fraction of that.
Its just shame people have become so used to stupidly high prices that standard A4000s go for almost £200 in some cases (as in recent listings seen on eBay UK), they shouldnt be going for more than £100 but unfortunately people go mental and bid stupid money and inflate the value.
I remember when I used to buy Dreamcast games when I was building up my collection, it amazed me how people would bid on Shenmue 2 like it was the only copy around and it would regularly go for around £30 when there were literally tens of copies on eBay, why bid so high and bump up the price??? :confused::confused:
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: Nlandas on January 24, 2010, 11:26:33 PM
Quote from: KThunder;539990
i wouldnt pay more than 200 for any classic hw. that means i dont buy alot of stuff. its russian roullette buying old stuff you never know if the next time you switch it on is the last.
old pc hw: who cares; a cassic miggy in mint cond. that sucks.


Yes, I'm done with A4000Ds even though I'd love to own one. I've gone through 2 desktops and one towerized desktop. They work when I get them and a few months later - pow they don't boot. I guess one completely restored with new capacitors everywhere including on the accelerator, no battery leakage and replaced ram slots with metal hold downs would be worth a bundle.

However, one that just looks clean with no mention of the above restoration should not be going for that much. I know people are nuts but that looks to be over the top.

-Nyle
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: ChaosLord on January 24, 2010, 11:26:57 PM
There are lots of fake people (and real people too) who make fake bids on Ebay all the time and never get in any trouble.  That is why I don't use Ebay.
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: Crom00 on January 24, 2010, 11:30:57 PM
Yep I knew a couple of guys that would do this all the time then go on forums and post excited comments about how they found such great deals on ebay. They were selling toys.
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: Tajmaster on January 24, 2010, 11:33:54 PM
Quote from: ChaosLord;539997
There are lots of fake people (and real people too) who make fake bids on Ebay all the time and never get in any trouble. That is why I don't use Ebay.

This is exactly one of my reasons I hate private lisitings. I know you cant tell who is bidding, but at least when its not private you can see if its a new eBayers account one with less than 10 feedback. If I see any bids from these two types of accounts I avoid the auction as I suspect theyre inflating the price.
I realise you all gotta start somewhere but Ill let someone else take the risk of being ripped off.
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: Boudicca on January 24, 2010, 11:41:02 PM
Quote from: tone007;539993
Lets ask Nishtek!


Get on with it then !, yeah of skeptical breath. I might be wrong but those bids are sure are suspicious.
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: tokyoracer on January 25, 2010, 01:17:13 AM
At the end of the day it's what people are willing to spend. Yes it's stupid how people are like "ZOMFG IT'S AN A4000!!!! UBER ULTRA RARE!!! BIDDDDDD!!!". It's the buyers problem really.

Just a shame you can't enjoy the old hardware since it fetches such a high price these days. When you buy such a thing, i'd feel hollow and worried about if such hardware goes wrong (CS PPC's for example, it's entirely likely).
In conclusion, there's often 2 types of buyers, collectors that have more money then sence and the people who want to enjoy them for what they are (but can't now thanks to collectors). Do remember it's only old computer hardware (like a 486 or Pentium I PC, except better obviously. Just making a point).

Plus if you think this is silly, look at what 68880 33+ MHz FPU's are fetching, they are not even rare.
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: orb85750 on January 25, 2010, 04:44:01 AM
I've asked the seller whether those are legitimate bids, or whether the auction will be relisted soon.  Let's see.
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: rkauer on January 25, 2010, 04:55:11 AM
And the winner is the bot!

 But the second highest bidder was a true person. Too bad he stop his bids at mere 1250...:lol:
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: HiroProX on January 29, 2010, 12:05:54 PM
And if you thought that was hilarious, this one'll be a riot. Check the "buy it now" price.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ATARI-1040ST-SC1224-COMPUTER-SYSTEM-IN-ORIGINAL-BOXES_W0QQitemZ260543916767QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVintage_Electronics_R2?hash=item3ca9a0aadf
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: save2600 on January 29, 2010, 03:04:50 PM
Almost at a loss for words... Nishtek is and has been a reputable dealer, but you guys think there was some shill bidding going on? $1275 for a barebones (albeit clean) A4000 is utterly fantastic (trying to be diplomatic here). Just wonder if the caps prone to failure on the 040 board AND the audio output were replaced. That could drive the cost up some, but yikes. Other thing I noticed was the $8 shipping charge. I swear, there's a lot of goofy ePayer's that live for cheap or free shipping. More often than not, people will NOT bid a product up if the shipping is high. As if they have a boner or a care in the world ePay is not getting a cut of that. In other words, I've seen and placed auctions where I didn't make squat on the item and didn't even make up for it in the shipping. Sell a similar item with free/cheap shipping and people bid it up like crazy. It's just plain stupid some of the behaviors we witness on ePay.

And yeah, that full ST system doesn't even compare to the cost of this A4000. I have a similar setup (520, disk drive and monitor) all boxed (mint condition, but no manuals) if anyone wants it. I'd like to see $100 for the thing plus shipping. Yeah, right. Who's gonna wanna pay to have an ST system shipped to 'em?! Atari ST equipment are like most magazines: not worth the cost of shipping!  :lol:
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: Ilwrath on January 29, 2010, 04:42:45 PM
Back a few years ago when I was building my SGI collection, I noticed an eBay consortium that pushed SGI prices to absurd levels.  They'd even bump bids into legitimate SGI auctions, just to keep ANY of their focus items from selling too low.  If they accidentally won one from a legit seller, amazingly, that account would have a non-payer negative feedback next month.

As I basically got the SGI items I wanted and kinda drifted from the scene, I don't know if it's still operating like that, or not.  But this could be the start of a similar group for the Amiga.  As mentioned, the trick would be proving it...
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: Crom00 on January 29, 2010, 05:06:04 PM
Nishtek are good folks.... But honestly what kind of "Paid work" is anyone doing with the Amiga to justify this cost. There must be like a collection of 500 or so whack jobs that purchase every Amiga on ebay no matter the cost. I've heard stories of folks with liike 10 or 15 Amigas. WTF? I mean I love the thing too but come on!

UAE Emulator is REALLY good... Actually better and faster than an A4000 expanded to the hilt. It defies logic.
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: amiga92570 on January 29, 2010, 05:15:01 PM
Quote from: Crom00;540597
Nishtek are good folks.... But honestly what kind of "Paid work" is anyone doing with the Amiga to justify this cost. There must be like a collection of 500 or so whack jobs that purchase every Amiga on ebay no matter the cost. I've heard stories of folks with liike 10 or 15 Amigas. WTF? I mean I love the thing too but come on!

UAE Emulator is REALLY good... Actually better and faster than an A4000 expanded to the hilt. It defies logic.


I find it hard to believe people have 10 or 15 amiga's.:roflmao:  As for myself, I have only purchased one on ebay.
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: Crom00 on January 29, 2010, 05:20:40 PM
Quote from: amiga92570;540599
I find it hard to believe people have 10 or 15 amiga's.:roflmao:  As for myself, I have only purchased one on ebay.


LOL! Judging by the signature in your message and profile pic you're a memeber of the Whack Job Tribe! I envy you! I sold all but an A1200 and a CD32. At one point I have every model but not all at one time. I'd buy one, sell it, get another, and I used it at work everyday.
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: amiga92570 on January 29, 2010, 05:35:34 PM
Yeah, I have thought of getting rid of everything but big box items and cd32 but with shipping and people complaining of prices and shipping times I gave up the idea. I used to sell on ebay, I have 100% feedback. But ebays new rules do not appeal to me at all. So I guess I will just keep all the stuff.
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: motrucker on January 29, 2010, 07:10:10 PM
It's still a buyer's market as far as the Amiga is concerned. I am still amazed at the number of cheapskates in this hobby.
We all like to get the best deal heard of - but that's no way to support the Amiga.
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: Moto on January 29, 2010, 07:19:43 PM
I'm starting to see wheeler dealers on this forum who are buying low and selling high to make a quick buck.  I hate to see that happen here.
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: djmartins on January 29, 2010, 07:20:54 PM
Quote from: motrucker;540613
We all like to get the best deal heard of - but that's no way to support the Amiga.

About twenty years to late to ACTUALLY support the Amiga......


regards,
DJ
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: spihunter on January 29, 2010, 08:27:55 PM
How in the world is paying way too much for 20 year equipment supporting the Amiga in any way?



Quote from: motrucker;540613
It's still a buyer's market as far as the Amiga is concerned. I am still amazed at the number of cheapskates in this hobby.
We all like to get the best deal heard of - but that's no way to support the Amiga.
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: Boudicca on January 29, 2010, 08:28:06 PM
Quote from: Moto;540614
I'm starting to see wheeler dealers on this forum who are buying low and selling high to make a quick buck.  I hate to see that happen here.


You mean "Fools!".
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: amiga92570 on January 29, 2010, 09:16:54 PM
I have given away and sold at good prices to some on this site. So I hope moto is not refering to me. Hell, if someone wants to come here and pick stuff up I will make them a hell of a deal(except the big box 3000's and 4000's as I am keeping them.) All my stuff works.
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: Moto on January 29, 2010, 09:21:53 PM
@amiga92570  - I wasn't.  But geez.. Guilty conscience?
Title: Re: Since when were Amigas worth this kind of money?
Post by: amiga92570 on January 29, 2010, 09:41:25 PM
Quote from: Moto;540628
@amiga92570  - I wasn't.  But geez.. Guilty conscience?


Yes, but not about buying and selling amigas.:roflmao: